Wanted to show a few plays I thought were worthy of highlighting. I didn't watch the entire game so I can't comment on it as a whole, but I did watch Kap's dropbacks and DJohnson's runs since I was somewhat impressed by Kap's performance against a very good defense, and very impressed with the 49ers defense of DJohnson and how they were able to snap their streak of allowing seven consecutive 100+ yard rushers.
Kap had a good 2nd quarter followed by the standard unproductive 2nd half, save for the 4th quarter TD drive. All three of the drives to open the 2nd half ended in punts. All three of those 3rd downs were plays I thought ARI played very good defense and tight coverage giving Kap no clear options to target. The 4th drive was a 3rd & 30. The 5th drive had pass pro slide the wrong direction and there was a free rusher, otherwise it was a manageable 3rd & 5. On a day the rushing attack was non-existent, Kap carried the offense.
49ers rush defense stepped up with Dorsey and Brooks leading the way. Dial and Buckner also did well to stand their ground on many plays. ARI lined up in formations that I thought tipped off that they were going to run. A lot of double TE formations that did not exploit the 49ers weak nickel rushing defense. Many times DJohnson was forced to bounce outside and was bottled up. Even on his TD run, he had to bounce outside and it was Brock that blew outside contain. Otherwise that would not have been a 2-3 yard gain at most.
ARI's game winning FG drive had one playcall I thought was really bad from JoN. It was 2nd & 2 and 49ers come with a blitz and played very soft on Fitz who caught an easy slant for +14, while on the other side of the field a TE was double covered. Not sure about the logic behind that. The pass to DJohnson with Bellore covering was good recognition on ARI's part. I see empty sets becoming a thing across the league, at least it seems that way. With a vet/smart QB, it allows the QB to quickly identify a favorable matchup.
Overall what I took from this game is that the 49ers are still playing hard and that Chip hasn't lost the team. Not sure how many more weeks I can say that, but this team hasn't completely mailed it in.
There are 126 users in the forums
Week 10 2016 Coaches Film Thread: at Cardinals
Nov 17, 2016 at 9:11 PM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,074
Nov 17, 2016 at 9:15 PM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,074
On the 49ers third offensive drive, they ran Spot and did not convert. But it showed ARI the play. Here, the 49ers run a play that starts off looking like Spot, but instead of a Corner, it's a Dig (yellow).
vs Cover1 blitz
The blue safety is expecting a Corner route. Even the defender on Vance is expecting it. But Vance cuts inside and exploits the area over the middle.
+32
vs Cover1 blitz
The blue safety is expecting a Corner route. Even the defender on Vance is expecting it. But Vance cuts inside and exploits the area over the middle.
+32
Nov 17, 2016 at 9:29 PM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,074
The 49ers actually attempted to convert a 3rd & 19 from their own 5 yard line...and they converted! This was a great throw from Kap. On time and on point. This is the kind of throw that makes you want to see more. Then wonder why it doesn't happen more often.
vs Cover6?
7 step timing. Kap takes 5 steps on the drop, hits his 5th step, and immediately fires the pass. Torrey is taking a jab step towards the inside to set up the Out and Kap is already mid windup.
+21. Excellent landmark throw. Throw to a spot and it's up to the WR to run a good route with proper depth.
vs Cover6?
7 step timing. Kap takes 5 steps on the drop, hits his 5th step, and immediately fires the pass. Torrey is taking a jab step towards the inside to set up the Out and Kap is already mid windup.
+21. Excellent landmark throw. Throw to a spot and it's up to the WR to run a good route with proper depth.
Nov 17, 2016 at 9:52 PM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,074
This is the strip sack by Eli Harold. Finally he puts up a highlight, but upon further review it was more a brain fart from Palmer than it was anything great that the 49ers did.
ARI runs a combination Mills (yellow + orange) + Drive (orange + red) concept.
vs Quarters
The 3 underneath defenders are Bellore, Reid, Ward. It is important they know their roles. One thing an offense can do to confuse pattern matching defenders is to use late presnap motion, then snap the ball before the defense can adjust. Below is 1 second before the snap. The WR running the red route (it's DJohnson) just motioned out of the backfield. This will cause Reid to react and follow DJohnson.
So in this picture Reid is the middle defender. Bellore is a curl/flat defender. Ward is the other curl/flat defender.
This is one moment after the snap. Reid has now gotten on the outside of Bellore. So now Bellore is the middle defender, but this happens so fast that they aren't able to adjust. This leaves a hole in the middle of the field because there is no middle underneath defender.
Had Bellore and Reid worked it out, one of them would be the middle defender to pick up the red drag route. Tarrt sees this and reacts by vacating his zone to pick up the red drag. Palmer is fixated looking to his left and doesn't see the weakside Post work the area Tartt is leaving.
Palmer senses pressure that isn't really there and flushes to his left. Brock has his man coverered, as does Bellore.
Notice how Reid comes from behind to outflank Bellore right before the snap. Not sure how they are coached to handle this, but what happened doesn't seem correct as far as coverage is concerned. At the bottom of the screen Acker looks like he is expecting inside help from Tartt. Good thing Palmer never worked the weakside. Eli with good hustle gets the forced fumble and Buckner gets the recovery.
ARI runs a combination Mills (yellow + orange) + Drive (orange + red) concept.
vs Quarters
The 3 underneath defenders are Bellore, Reid, Ward. It is important they know their roles. One thing an offense can do to confuse pattern matching defenders is to use late presnap motion, then snap the ball before the defense can adjust. Below is 1 second before the snap. The WR running the red route (it's DJohnson) just motioned out of the backfield. This will cause Reid to react and follow DJohnson.
So in this picture Reid is the middle defender. Bellore is a curl/flat defender. Ward is the other curl/flat defender.
This is one moment after the snap. Reid has now gotten on the outside of Bellore. So now Bellore is the middle defender, but this happens so fast that they aren't able to adjust. This leaves a hole in the middle of the field because there is no middle underneath defender.
Had Bellore and Reid worked it out, one of them would be the middle defender to pick up the red drag route. Tarrt sees this and reacts by vacating his zone to pick up the red drag. Palmer is fixated looking to his left and doesn't see the weakside Post work the area Tartt is leaving.
Palmer senses pressure that isn't really there and flushes to his left. Brock has his man coverered, as does Bellore.
Notice how Reid comes from behind to outflank Bellore right before the snap. Not sure how they are coached to handle this, but what happened doesn't seem correct as far as coverage is concerned. At the bottom of the screen Acker looks like he is expecting inside help from Tartt. Good thing Palmer never worked the weakside. Eli with good hustle gets the forced fumble and Buckner gets the recovery.
Nov 17, 2016 at 9:57 PM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,074
First play after DeFo's fumble recovery. Here's the bomb to Patton. Another good throw from Kap.
Mills vs Cover1 blitz
The safety is playing very shallow for a Cover 1 safety.
The safety (blue) comes up to play Vance's Dig route. This allows Patton to work the Post.
+45
Mills vs Cover1 blitz
The safety is playing very shallow for a Cover 1 safety.
The safety (blue) comes up to play Vance's Dig route. This allows Patton to work the Post.
+45
Nov 17, 2016 at 10:20 PM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,074
All game long ARI lined up with 2TEs and/or bunched up formations to run the ball. This was a key stop at the time early in the 4th quarter.
Dorsey and DeFo will execute a stunt with DeFo going 1st into the A gap, then Dorsey looping around to hit the B gap.
DeFo crosses the face of the LG and occupies the LG and C.
Dorsey loops around to take the LT and the TE.
This opens a lane for Bethea to penetrate as he beats the WR's block to the inside.
No gain. Bethea blows this play up, but it's DeFo and Dorsey that set it up. This was an example of scheming to create lanes to penetrate, but for the most part, the 49ers seemed to play good sound assignment football to keep DJohnson's ground game in check.
Dorsey and DeFo will execute a stunt with DeFo going 1st into the A gap, then Dorsey looping around to hit the B gap.
DeFo crosses the face of the LG and occupies the LG and C.
Dorsey loops around to take the LT and the TE.
This opens a lane for Bethea to penetrate as he beats the WR's block to the inside.
No gain. Bethea blows this play up, but it's DeFo and Dorsey that set it up. This was an example of scheming to create lanes to penetrate, but for the most part, the 49ers seemed to play good sound assignment football to keep DJohnson's ground game in check.
Nov 17, 2016 at 10:56 PM
- valrod33
- Hall of Small
- Posts: 138,011
- NFL Pick 'em
Originally posted by thl408:
First play after DeFo's fumble recovery. Here's the bomb to Patton. Another good throw from Kap.
Mills vs Cover1 blitz
The safety is playing very shallow for a Cover 1 safety.
The safety (blue) comes up to play Vance's Dig route. This allows Patton to work the Post.
+45
It was an okay throw. Underthrown gave the defender a chance to make a play Patton had to slow down for it, better throw and thats an easy TD
Nov 18, 2016 at 2:51 AM
- Luckycharms
- Veteran
- Posts: 949
I thought Hodges played a very good game, I wonder why he got benched for Whilhoite earlier in the season? Bellore is still terrible but you could definitely see how much better our DL looked with Dorsey in the middle. Buck, Eli, and Dial were all solid as well.
For the most part I like Chip's passing offense. On occasion he can call the same play too many times in a game but he might just be trying to set up the defense for later. I would like to see Vance get a little more involved. It feels like he's been our big play pass catcher this year. Now if only we could break off some big runs from our RB's. I can't remember the last time Hyde had a 25+ yard gain.
For the most part I like Chip's passing offense. On occasion he can call the same play too many times in a game but he might just be trying to set up the defense for later. I would like to see Vance get a little more involved. It feels like he's been our big play pass catcher this year. Now if only we could break off some big runs from our RB's. I can't remember the last time Hyde had a 25+ yard gain.
Nov 18, 2016 at 6:07 AM
- Niners816
- Veteran
- Posts: 9,990
Originally posted by thl408:First play after DeFo's fumble recovery. Here's the bomb to Patton. Another good throw from Kap.
Mills vs Cover1 blitz
The safety is playing very shallow for a Cover 1 safety.
The safety (blue) comes up to play Vance's Dig route. This allows Patton to work the Post.
+45
This concept is absolute money for Chip. We've seen it in just about every game and it's accounted for a lot of our biggest plays this year. It's this play:
(Pic from philly days)
In Chips words the routes are from top to bottom post, deep cross, bubble and fly. We've seen big plays out of pretty much every route but the bubble this year on this concept.
Nov 18, 2016 at 8:34 AM
- matguy87
- Veteran
- Posts: 93
Nice! Thanks for doing this again! It definitely seemed like Kap was shuffling around in the pocket better than I've seen him do in the last year and a half. It definetly helped him stay in for a couple big completions . Hopefully he can keep it up, but his issue has always been consistency so we'll see.
Nov 18, 2016 at 9:06 AM
- BleedsRedNGold
- Veteran
- Posts: 4,609
I think this team is finally starting to gel. I'm liking the improvement week to week. We knew offensively this would be a project but I really want to give this O another full offseason with Kap at full speed.
Kap looks good to me. Still a little slower than usual, but he looks better.
Kap looks good to me. Still a little slower than usual, but he looks better.
Nov 18, 2016 at 12:20 PM
- 49erphan
- Veteran
- Posts: 1,710
Thanks for the film breakdowns. I especially like the one of Buckner and Dorsey's stunt. I was hard on Bethea on a recent posting, but he looked good on that play.
Nov 18, 2016 at 12:21 PM
- dj43
- Moderator
- Posts: 36,421
- NFL Pick 'em
Originally posted by thl408:
The 49ers actually attempted to convert a 3rd & 19 from their own 5 yard line...and they converted! This was a great throw from Kap. On time and on point. This is the kind of throw that makes you want to see more. Then wonder why it doesn't happen more often.
vs Cover6?
7 step timing. Kap takes 5 steps on the drop, hits his 5th step, and immediately fires the pass. Torrey is taking a jab step towards the inside to set up the Out and Kap is already mid windup.
+21. Excellent landmark throw. Throw to a spot and it's up to the WR to run a good route with proper depth.
This was the play of the game for me. It showed all the things you want in a QB and WR. Moreover, it showed a "what the heck, we're going for it" call on the part of Kelly. The fact it was against prior tendencies in that kind of down/distance situation helped set it up, however, the players have to execute.
Nov 18, 2016 at 12:35 PM
- dj43
- Moderator
- Posts: 36,421
- NFL Pick 'em
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by thl408:
First play after DeFo's fumble recovery. Here's the bomb to Patton. Another good throw from Kap.
Mills vs Cover1 blitz
The safety is playing very shallow for a Cover 1 safety.
The safety (blue) comes up to play Vance's Dig route. This allows Patton to work the Post.
+45
It was an okay throw. Underthrown gave the defender a chance to make a play Patton had to slow down for it, better throw and thats an easy TD
Yes, it was under thrown. CK had a clean pocket, stepped up and looked like he put a lot into the throw but it was short. For now, I am willing to say that with more time and experience, he would have laid the throw out in front with more air under it. That having been said, there were still several throws where more arc and less fastball would have been good completions. Two that come to mind are the ball Hyde could not catch in the end zone and a 15 yard throw to the left sideline that was too high for Patton.
Nov 18, 2016 at 9:27 PM
- thl408
- Moderator
- Posts: 33,074
Listed are the 19 runs by DJohnson
Yards gained; offensive personnel/formation vs 49er personnel
6; 3WR spread vs base
3; 3WR spread vs base
0; 2TE vs base
2; 3WR bunched vs nickel
2; 2TE vs base
2; 2TE vs base
18; 2TE vs base
3; 2TE vs base
-1; 2TE vs base
1; 3WR bunched vs nickel
2; 3TE vs base
0; 3TE vs base
1; 2TE vs nickel
7; 2TE vs base
0; 2TE vs base
2; 2TE vs nickel
1; 2TE vs base
9; 2TE vs base
-3; 2TE vs base
15 runs of 3 or less
Inside zone, 2TE vs base
The RT tackle gives a quick shove on DIal then looks to move to the second level. Skov reads the play.
By reacting quickly to the play, Skov beats the RT to the spot.
DJ bounces it outside where Brooks has head up and has the edge.
DJ gets around Brooks but had to go backwards to do it. Brock will miss the tackle but does his role and forces DJ back inside.
-1 tfl
Yards gained; offensive personnel/formation vs 49er personnel
6; 3WR spread vs base
3; 3WR spread vs base
0; 2TE vs base
2; 3WR bunched vs nickel
2; 2TE vs base
2; 2TE vs base
18; 2TE vs base
3; 2TE vs base
-1; 2TE vs base
1; 3WR bunched vs nickel
2; 3TE vs base
0; 3TE vs base
1; 2TE vs nickel
7; 2TE vs base
0; 2TE vs base
2; 2TE vs nickel
1; 2TE vs base
9; 2TE vs base
-3; 2TE vs base
15 runs of 3 or less
Inside zone, 2TE vs base
The RT tackle gives a quick shove on DIal then looks to move to the second level. Skov reads the play.
By reacting quickly to the play, Skov beats the RT to the spot.
DJ bounces it outside where Brooks has head up and has the edge.
DJ gets around Brooks but had to go backwards to do it. Brock will miss the tackle but does his role and forces DJ back inside.
-1 tfl