First off, I'm not an Alex Smith supporter or basher, but watching last Sunday night's Packers-Patriots game was yet another example of Alex Smith's lack of QB skills. (and yes, I realize Troy Smith is now the "starter")
Matt Flynn, making his first start IN NEW ENGLAND, had a better game and looked more comfortable than perhaps Alex Smith ever has. Yes, Green Bay has more talented WRs (and coach/offensive coordinator), but one can argue the Niners have had the edge in TE and RB, with the O-line more or less being a push.
Even if we throw out Flynn's stats (which were impressive), he showed better poise, awareness, and overall feel for the game. In his first career start. Hell, even Colt McCoy has shown more during his brief career (and without a doubt Sam Bradford has WITHOUT ANY receiving threats).
So I ask an innocent and straightforward question to you Alex Smith backers: what has he exactly shown you over the past 6 years that makes you believe?
Without turning this into a heated debate, I'm really just curious. Intelligent responses are encouraged.
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Dec 24, 2010 at 7:53 AM
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Dec 24, 2010 at 7:57 AM
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Bradford is getting too much credit for the Rams being better, just look at his numbers. I would say pretty much any QB that has been learning under a good coach would look better than anything we have. Our organization just doesn't understand how to develop a QB. Smith is proof of that. Also, New England has one of the worst defenses in the entire NFL. Try researching a little before you just throw random thoughts out there. I agree with the overall sentiment though.
[ Edited by Memphis9er on Dec 24, 2010 at 08:01:44 ]
[ Edited by Memphis9er on Dec 24, 2010 at 08:01:44 ]
Dec 24, 2010 at 7:59 AM
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Dec 24, 2010 at 8:01 AM
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Alex was SUPPOSED to be good. Too many people just can't admit the franchise drafted a bust. He's got talent around him now, and he can't do anything with it. He has no field vision. But people insist on hanging on his nutsack. And yes I think Bradford is legit, hell I'd take him in a heartbeat. Flynn was definitely impressive against a good team nonetheless but he needs to do it more to get my attention.
Dec 24, 2010 at 8:03 AM
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Originally posted by bracus:
Alex was SUPPOSED to be good. Too many people just can't admit the franchise drafted a bust. He's got talent around him now, and he can't do anything with it. He has no field vision. But people insist on hanging on his nutsack. And yes I think Bradford is legit, hell I'd take him in a heartbeat. Flynn was definitely impressive against a good team nonetheless but he needs to do it more to get my attention.
Bradford is not proven in the least, check out the QB ratings.
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Dec 24, 2010 at 8:05 AM
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Dec 24, 2010 at 8:09 AM
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Originally posted by fly15:
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Dec 24, 2010 at 8:10 AM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by bracus:
Alex was SUPPOSED to be good. Too many people just can't admit the franchise drafted a bust. He's got talent around him now, and he can't do anything with it. He has no field vision. But people insist on hanging on his nutsack. And yes I think Bradford is legit, hell I'd take him in a heartbeat. Flynn was definitely impressive against a good team nonetheless but he needs to do it more to get my attention.
Bradford is not proven in the least, check out the QB ratings.
NFL Passing Stats
I could care less about the most fraudulent stat in the NFL. If you can't say you would take him in a heartbeat, you're a fool. The dude is legit. HES A ROOKIE! Not to mention he is about to take a team with the 1st overall to the playoffs in 1 year. There is a reason he's gonna win ROY.
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Dec 24, 2010 at 8:13 AM
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Dec 24, 2010 at 8:13 AM
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Originally posted by bracus:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by bracus:
Alex was SUPPOSED to be good. Too many people just can't admit the franchise drafted a bust. He's got talent around him now, and he can't do anything with it. He has no field vision. But people insist on hanging on his nutsack. And yes I think Bradford is legit, hell I'd take him in a heartbeat. Flynn was definitely impressive against a good team nonetheless but he needs to do it more to get my attention.
Bradford is not proven in the least, check out the QB ratings.
NFL Passing Stats
I could care less about the most fraudulent stat in the NFL. If you can't say you would take him in a heartbeat, you're a fool. The dude is legit. HES A ROOKIE! Not to mention he is about to take a team with the 1st overall to the playoffs in 1 year. There is a reason he's gonna win ROY.
Dec 24, 2010 at 8:14 AM
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Originally posted by bracus:Originally posted by Memphis9er:Originally posted by bracus:
Alex was SUPPOSED to be good. Too many people just can't admit the franchise drafted a bust. He's got talent around him now, and he can't do anything with it. He has no field vision. But people insist on hanging on his nutsack. And yes I think Bradford is legit, hell I'd take him in a heartbeat. Flynn was definitely impressive against a good team nonetheless but he needs to do it more to get my attention.
Bradford is not proven in the least, check out the QB ratings.
NFL Passing Stats
I could care less about the most fraudulent stat in the NFL. If you can't say you would take him in a heartbeat, you're a fool. The dude is legit. HES A ROOKIE! Not to mention he is about to take a team with the 1st overall to the playoffs in 1 year. There is a reason he's gonna win ROY.
Being in Memphis, I get to see most of their games, so I think I have seen more of his body of work. He still has much to prove before he is legit. I even like the kid from his college days, just not sold on him in the NFL yet. The fool is the one trying to make sound judgment based on incomplete evidence.
Dec 24, 2010 at 8:15 AM
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So I ask an innocent and straightforward question to you Alex Smith backers: what has he exactly shown you over the past 6 years that makes you believe
If that's what you really want to know then check out the Alex Smith thread or just about any other thread in Niner Talk