Originally posted by genus49:
Not at all(at least from me) I just think for us Bosa makes a ton of sense given our current roster. I think the same makes sense for QW for Arizona if they weren't taking Murray and staying at 1.
Its been reported repeatedly here that the Cardinals see Bosa as BPA. If it isn't a tradedown or Murray, then it'll most likely be Bosa.
32nd vs the run. Chandler Jones already there, Terrell Suggs signed in FA, good edge rusher class.
If the 49ers had signed Suggs to a one year deal instead, would you be arguing that they should pass on Bosa? Suggs is an Arizona guy, he's maintained a home out here for over a decade. He was on a snap count with Baltimore last year. At this point in his career he is a rotational piece, just another guy coming to Arizona to retire. His signing isn't going to change their draft strategy at all.
I don't think Bosa is a great fit at 3-4. QW gives them a beast who fits that D better than Bosa IMO. IMO if they take Bosa it's more to spite us vs taking the guy who helps their roster the most.
This is one argument that I don't buy.
The Cardinals will be running the same scheme on defense as Denver did last year when they used an early 1st rounder on Bradley Chubb despite having Von Miller at edge. They utilized both those guys successfully. Chubb had a monster season as a rookie and was rarely dropping into coverage. There is no reason why Vance Joseph couldn't use Bosa in a similar fashion and play him and Chandler Jones together. Joey Bosa played in a similar defensive scheme during his first year in the NFL.
The reasoning behind drafting Bosa that has been used out here is that Chandler Jones is 29 years old. He's likely not going to be getting any better and you can pair him and Bosa together for a few years and later move on from Jones with Bosa stepping into his role.
I think ultimately the Cardinals are begging someone, anyone to to trade up with them and give them more picks, whether its the Raiders for Murray or the 49ers for Bosa, they seem to much prefer to tradedown and if that is true, then at least on some level I think they are content with Rosen as QBOTF. When push comes to shove, I think Keim does the least imaginative thing and simply stands pat and takes Bosa. They can sell it to the fans as getting the top player in the draft, a defensive gamechanger while most fans think Kingsbury will have the Midas touch when it comes to the offense anyways.