Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama

17 days until Quinnen Williams is a 49er!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
17 days until Quinnen Williams is a 49er!

My disappointment in this will last ... 30 seconds.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
17 days until Quinnen Williams is a 49er!

You never answered my question lol.

Bosa and Williams there at #2, who you taking? Or are you reverse psychologing that Bosa will be there at 2 if you never admit there's a chance of him actually being there?

Originally posted by genus49:
You never answered my question lol.

Bosa and Williams there at #2, who you taking? Or are you reverse psychologing that Bosa will be there at 2 if you never admit there's a chance of him actually being there?

Bosa going with the first pick, so the question is, at number two, who are YOU taking?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:
You never answered my question lol.

Bosa and Williams there at #2, who you taking? Or are you reverse psychologing that Bosa will be there at 2 if you never admit there's a chance of him actually being there?

Bosa going with the first pick, so the question is, at number two, who are YOU taking?

lol...

IF Bosa goes #1 overall and we can't trade down with someone wanting Murray then I'm taking Williams but then hoping we draft a DE with 36 or 67.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Here's a good video on QW


Much like what is said in the video, you'll hear from others as well. QW literally has no weaknesses in his game.

I would prefer to have him and Buckner man the inside of our DLine for years to come, than get another edge rusher. Especially since we just signed Dee Ford.

go watch the Georgia/Oklahoma/Clemson games. His motor isn't the same in the 2nd half vs the 1st half IMO. His pad level get's a little high and he's gonna have to get stronger. He's just a pup, so it's not something he can't overcome. mostly nitpicking he's good.

I would say a weakness is that he's a DT. It's just not as valuable as an edge rush end of the day. Not sure how you can say "get another edge rusher" they haven't drafted an edge rusher in the top 100 since Harold (3rd round). Ford could very well be gone this time next yr (hope not).

PHX...So if we take Q, then we have what , 9 DTs. Let's see...Buck, AA, Solomon, Day, Julian, DJJones, Blair, i'm Missing someone or two... but, you say take another interior DT even tho we will have to let some of our other DTs go.

You favor Q over Allen, meaning an interior over a guy who plays ER, altho is a LB, not a DE. And then we sort whatever we have out later.

A question re: Q when the play does not come near him, that is where i think he takes time off. He doesn't play thru to the whistle. He just kind of takes time off when a play wasn't directly at him. At least that is what i have seen. Have you noted that also? And if so,does that bother you.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

go watch the Georgia/Oklahoma/Clemson games. His motor isn't the same in the 2nd half vs the 1st half IMO. His pad level get's a little high and he's gonna have to get stronger. He's just a pup, so it's not something he can't overcome. mostly nitpicking he's good.

I would say a weakness is that he's a DT. It's just not as valuable as an edge rush end of the day. Not sure how you can say "get another edge rusher" they haven't drafted an edge rusher in the top 100 since Harold (3rd round). Ford could very well be gone this time next yr (hope not).

Which is another reason i feel how i feel

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
go watch the Georgia/Oklahoma/Clemson games. His motor isn't the same in the 2nd half vs the 1st half IMO. His pad level get's a little high and he's gonna have to get stronger. He's just a pup, so it's not something he can't overcome. mostly nitpicking he's good.

I would say a weakness is that he's a DT. It's just not as valuable as an edge rush end of the day. Not sure how you can say "get another edge rusher" they haven't drafted an edge rusher in the top 100 since Harold (3rd round). Ford could very well be gone this time next yr (hope not).

Which is another reason i feel how i feel

huh? so draft QW and not bosa....that makes no sense

Originally posted by NYniner85:
go watch the Georgia/Oklahoma/Clemson games. His motor isn't the same in the 2nd half vs the 1st half IMO. His pad level get's a little high and he's gonna have to get stronger. He's just a pup, so it's not something he can't overcome. mostly nitpicking he's good.

I would say a weakness is that he's a DT. It's just not as valuable as an edge rush end of the day. Not sure how you can say "get another edge rusher" they haven't drafted an edge rusher in the top 100 since Harold (3rd round). Ford could very well be gone this time next yr (hope not).

It's something I noticed as well. I think it mostly has to do with being the most doubled player in the SEC and playing as a nose tackle in general. Most NTs come off the field on passing downs, he didn't. I think that's also why he's not a true NT in the NFL He has a smaller frame than most 300 pounders and can't that load all game long. I doubt that was his playing weight anyways. To me he's more of a 3T/big end in the NFL, which would probably mean we'd let Armstead walk next off season.

I think DT is less impactful because most of them don't produce the same amount of pressures or sacks as even the average edge rusher. However these last couple of years we've seen guys like Donald, Cox and Jones produce and out produce some of the best outside pass rushers in the league, and they are rarity. If the Niners take Quinnen, they think he's one of those guys, and anything less would honestly be a disappointment, Personally I think the gap between Williams and Allen is significant as pass rushers, and I think that's why we are considering it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Here's a good video on QW


Much like what is said in the video, you'll hear from others as well. QW literally has no weaknesses in his game.

I would prefer to have him and Buckner man the inside of our DLine for years to come, than get another edge rusher. Especially since we just signed Dee Ford.

go watch the Georgia/Oklahoma/Clemson games. His motor isn't the same in the 2nd half vs the 1st half IMO. His pad level get's a little high and he's gonna have to get stronger. He's just a pup, so it's not something he can't overcome. mostly nitpicking he's good.

I would say a weakness is that he's a DT. It's just not as valuable as an edge rush end of the day. Not sure how you can say "get another edge rusher" they haven't drafted an edge rusher in the top 100 since Harold (3rd round). Ford could very well be gone this time next yr (hope not).

Obviously I meant drafting an edge rusher after we just signed one via FA...

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Obviously I meant drafting an edge rusher after we just signed one via FA...

Ah I see, good thing is you need more than one edge rusher

Originally posted by S41MAN:

It's something I noticed as well. I think it mostly has to do with being the most doubled player in the SEC and playing as a nose tackle in general. Most NTs come off the field on passing downs, he didn't. I think that's also why he's not a true NT in the NFL He has a smaller frame than most 300 pounders and can't that load all game long. I doubt that was his playing weight anyways. To me he's more of a 3T/big end in the NFL, which would probably mean we'd let Armstead walk next off season.

I think DT is less impactful because most of them don't produce the same amount of pressures or sacks as even the average edge rusher. However these last couple of years we've seen guys like Donald, Cox and Jones produce and out produce some of the best outside pass rushers in the league, and they are rarity. If the Niners take Quinnen, they think he's one of those guys, and anything less would honestly be a disappointment, Personally I think the gap between Williams and Allen is significant as pass rushers, and I think that's why we are considering it.

Raekwon Davis took on a lot of double teams as well, he doesn't get a ton of create but he's a mountain of a man. He will be a 2020 1st rd pick.

Que, Que, Que, QUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEE!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

17 days until Quinnen Williams is a 49er!

I cant believe that you wanted to Quinnen Williams!