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Quinnen Williams, DT Alabama

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My hunch is that Lynch's brain is telling him to get bosa but his heart wants Quinnen.

QW+Winovich.


That's better than Bosa + whatever in round 2. If we do QW round 1 and Winovich in round 2 this team is in the Super Bowl. I'm buying Super Bowl tickets.

I like QW and Chase, but what are we doing about WR, FS, and OL in that scenario?

I do think the FO really does believe in Colbert and Ward and in Kyle and Jimmy's ability to get by with what we have on offense... Maybe we still get a good WR (or OL or FS) in round 3... Maybe we find a gem later

Improving the passrush does wonders to the secondary. Much easier covering a guy for 3 seconds as opposed to 5.

I agree improving the pass rush is far better. Also you can't fix everything in 1 year. If we got QW + Winovich wow. That whole draft is made. Whatever you get in round 3 - bottom is just bonus. Just be happy with those first two. That's how I see it.

I like your thinking. I want bosa, but this is my plan b. I know we need wr, s, guard, but I'm wondering if chase even makes it to our pick lol it's just a ton of draft capital invested into the d-line the past 5 years.
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My hunch is that Lynch's brain is telling him to get bosa but his heart wants Quinnen.

Also, I think his body is telling him Quinnen.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My hunch is that Lynch's brain is telling him to get bosa but his heart wants Quinnen.

QW+Winovich.


That's better than Bosa + whatever in round 2. If we do QW round 1 and Winovich in round 2 this team is in the Super Bowl. I'm buying Super Bowl tickets.

I like QW and Chase, but what are we doing about WR, FS, and OL in that scenario?

I do think the FO really does believe in Colbert and Ward and in Kyle and Jimmy's ability to get by with what we have on offense... Maybe we still get a good WR (or OL or FS) in round 3... Maybe we find a gem later

Improving the passrush does wonders to the secondary. Much easier covering a guy for 3 seconds as opposed to 5.

I agree improving the pass rush is far better. Also you can't fix everything in 1 year. If we got QW + Winovich wow. That whole draft is made. Whatever you get in round 3 - bottom is just bonus. Just be happy with those first two. That's how I see it.

I like your thinking. I want bosa, but this is my plan b. I know we need wr, s, guard, but I'm wondering if chase even makes it to our pick lol it's just a ton of draft capital invested into the d-line the past 5 years.

yeah its a lot of capital but whatever it takes to improve the unit. Protecting the qb and getting to the qb is the most important positions to nail besides getting the qb itself.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My hunch is that Lynch's brain is telling him to get bosa but his heart wants Quinnen.

QW+Winovich.


That's better than Bosa + whatever in round 2. If we do QW round 1 and Winovich in round 2 this team is in the Super Bowl. I'm buying Super Bowl tickets.

I like QW and Chase, but what are we doing about WR, FS, and OL in that scenario?

I do think the FO really does believe in Colbert and Ward and in Kyle and Jimmy's ability to get by with what we have on offense... Maybe we still get a good WR (or OL or FS) in round 3... Maybe we find a gem later

Improving the passrush does wonders to the secondary. Much easier covering a guy for 3 seconds as opposed to 5.

I agree improving the pass rush is far better. Also you can't fix everything in 1 year. If we got QW + Winovich wow. That whole draft is made. Whatever you get in round 3 - bottom is just bonus. Just be happy with those first two. That's how I see it.

I like your thinking. I want bosa, but this is my plan b. I know we need wr, s, guard, but I'm wondering if chase even makes it to our pick lol it's just a ton of draft capital invested into the d-line the past 5 years.

I think it's really possible Winovich doesn't last until our 2nd rounder. He may go late 1st or very early 2nd ahead of us. But if he was there you got to jump on that. He is much more athletic than people give him credit for. He is highly productive and has good technique and was well coached. I don't think I would pass on that for a WR. You always need more pass rush. If he is gone and a great WR is there that's a different thing. Yes S and G too. Just whatever is the best available. But if you got QW + Winovich that is an outstanding draft IMO. I would not be upset about that at all.
[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Apr 11, 2019 at 6:13 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My hunch is that Lynch's brain is telling him to get bosa but his heart wants Quinnen.

QW+Winovich.


That's better than Bosa + whatever in round 2. If we do QW round 1 and Winovich in round 2 this team is in the Super Bowl. I'm buying Super Bowl tickets.

I like QW and Chase, but what are we doing about WR, FS, and OL in that scenario?

I do think the FO really does believe in Colbert and Ward and in Kyle and Jimmy's ability to get by with what we have on offense... Maybe we still get a good WR (or OL or FS) in round 3... Maybe we find a gem later

Improving the passrush does wonders to the secondary. Much easier covering a guy for 3 seconds as opposed to 5.

I agree improving the pass rush is far better. Also you can't fix everything in 1 year. If we got QW + Winovich wow. That whole draft is made. Whatever you get in round 3 - bottom is just bonus. Just be happy with those first two. That's how I see it.

I like your thinking. I want bosa, but this is my plan b. I know we need wr, s, guard, but I'm wondering if chase even makes it to our pick lol it's just a ton of draft capital invested into the d-line the past 5 years.

I think it's really possible Winovich doesn't last until our 2nd rounder. He may go late 1st or very early 2nd ahead of us. But if he was there you got to jump on that. He is much more athletic than people give him credit for. He is highly productive and has good technique and was well coached. I don't think I would pass on that for a WR. You always need more pass rush. If he is gone and a great WR is there that's a different thing. Yes S and G too. Just whatever is the best available. But if you got QW + Winovich that is an outstanding draft IMO. I would not be upset about that at all.

Agreed. It's going to take another year truthfully. I think we do defense now and next year we look for offense.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I think it's really possible Winovich doesn't last until our 2nd rounder. He may go late 1st or very early 2nd ahead of us. But if he was there you got to jump on that. He is much more athletic than people give him credit for. He is highly productive and has good technique and was well coached. I don't think I would pass on that for a WR. You always need more pass rush. If he is gone and a great WR is there that's a different thing. Yes S and G too. Just whatever is the best available. But if you got QW + Winovich that is an outstanding draft IMO. I would not be upset about that at all.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My hunch is that Lynch's brain is telling him to get bosa but his heart wants Quinnen.

QW+Winovich.


That's better than Bosa + whatever in round 2. If we do QW round 1 and Winovich in round 2 this team is in the Super Bowl. I'm buying Super Bowl tickets.

I like QW and Chase, but what are we doing about WR, FS, and OL in that scenario?

I do think the FO really does believe in Colbert and Ward and in Kyle and Jimmy's ability to get by with what we have on offense... Maybe we still get a good WR (or OL or FS) in round 3... Maybe we find a gem later

Improving the passrush does wonders to the secondary. Much easier covering a guy for 3 seconds as opposed to 5.

I agree improving the pass rush is far better. Also you can't fix everything in 1 year. If we got QW + Winovich wow. That whole draft is made. Whatever you get in round 3 - bottom is just bonus. Just be happy with those first two. That's how I see it.

I like your thinking. I want bosa, but this is my plan b. I know we need wr, s, guard, but I'm wondering if chase even makes it to our pick lol it's just a ton of draft capital invested into the d-line the past 5 years.

I think it's really possible Winovich doesn't last until our 2nd rounder. He may go late 1st or very early 2nd ahead of us. But if he was there you got to jump on that. He is much more athletic than people give him credit for. He is highly productive and has good technique and was well coached. I don't think I would pass on that for a WR. You always need more pass rush. If he is gone and a great WR is there that's a different thing. Yes S and G too. Just whatever is the best available. But if you got QW + Winovich that is an outstanding draft IMO. I would not be upset about that at all.

Agreed. It's going to take another year truthfully. I think we do defense now and next year we look for offense.

Yeah you can't fix all this in 1 year. A lot of people are being unrealistic. If we got QW + Winovich + pass rusher in free agency which we got + Jimmy G back and healthy + maybe our speed RB back and healthy you are looking at a huge improvement. I think they go a long way up with that.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My hunch is that Lynch's brain is telling him to get bosa but his heart wants Quinnen.

QW+Winovich.


That's better than Bosa + whatever in round 2. If we do QW round 1 and Winovich in round 2 this team is in the Super Bowl. I'm buying Super Bowl tickets.

I like QW and Chase, but what are we doing about WR, FS, and OL in that scenario?

I do think the FO really does believe in Colbert and Ward and in Kyle and Jimmy's ability to get by with what we have on offense... Maybe we still get a good WR (or OL or FS) in round 3... Maybe we find a gem later

Improving the passrush does wonders to the secondary. Much easier covering a guy for 3 seconds as opposed to 5.

I agree improving the pass rush is far better. Also you can't fix everything in 1 year. If we got QW + Winovich wow. That whole draft is made. Whatever you get in round 3 - bottom is just bonus. Just be happy with those first two. That's how I see it.

I like your thinking. I want bosa, but this is my plan b. I know we need wr, s, guard, but I'm wondering if chase even makes it to our pick lol it's just a ton of draft capital invested into the d-line the past 5 years.

I think it's really possible Winovich doesn't last until our 2nd rounder. He may go late 1st or very early 2nd ahead of us. But if he was there you got to jump on that. He is much more athletic than people give him credit for. He is highly productive and has good technique and was well coached. I don't think I would pass on that for a WR. You always need more pass rush. If he is gone and a great WR is there that's a different thing. Yes S and G too. Just whatever is the best available. But if you got QW + Winovich that is an outstanding draft IMO. I would not be upset about that at all.

Agreed. It's going to take another year truthfully. I think we do defense now and next year we look for offense.

Yeah you can't fix all this in 1 year. A lot of people are being unrealistic. If we got QW + Winovich + pass rusher in free agency which we got + Jimmy G back and healthy + maybe our speed RB back and healthy you are looking at a huge improvement. I think they go a long way up with that.

The thing is you can fix it in a year if you hit. You've outlined one plan, but another realistic one is

Bosa #2
Thornhill or Deebo at 36
Savage or Ridley at 67

If they all work out all our glaring needs would be solved.
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Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Buckner has yet to play alongside a true stud...QW's that guy. Despite having mediocre NT play, DB's put up some pretty impressive numbers and they've improved each season. Willliams and Buckner can wreak some real havoc...which is why Lynch needs to draft the former.

Buckner has also yet to play alongside an even a difference maker at DE. That's more important to his success than another strong DT. When you're weak on the outside teams will target that. Even with a nice push up the middle QBs can roll to the weak sides.

If we bring in Bosa it makes the whole DL very difficult to plan against. We'd be strong on the outside and while maybe not AS strong on the interior it would certainly be one of the better interior pass rush teams in the game.

You don't take a guy #2 overall to have him basically hold up double teams.

Why on earth do you think that QW's main role would be to eat double teams? His role would obviously be to wreck sh*t inside and cause havoc.

Now if a team decides that he's so good to warrant double teaming every snap, then Buck and Ford will be All Pros, some fans might moan, but every football guy would know that Quinnen was behind it all.

The kid is a monster, I personally think highly enough of Bosa to pass, but there is absolutely no one else I consider worthy of missing this guy.

Not Allen, not Burns and certainly not Solomon Thomas or Arik Armstead.

I want to believe. I just think of when Detroit has suh. And drafted day. How did that work

But the dude loves pancakes. So I like that. Kind of think we need to dump some weight though if this thebpick .
So when Winovich goes late 1st, our EDGE is Ford and Blair. Not awesome. But at least out interior DL of QW, Buck, Armstead, Thomas, Day, Street, and Jones is great. Bosa is the pick
[ Edited by Rathof44 on Apr 11, 2019 at 8:05 PM ]
Originally posted by Rathof44:
So when Winovich goes late 1st, our EDGE is Ford and Blair. Not awesome. But at least out interior DL of QW, Buck, Armstead, Thomas, Day, Street, and Jones is great. Bosa is the pick

I'm assuming this is if bosa is gone. If he is gone I'm fine with QW. He's instantly better than everyone except Buck.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by gold49digger:
My hunch is that Lynch's brain is telling him to get bosa but his heart wants Quinnen.

QW+Winovich.


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Originally posted by Rathof44:
So when Winovich goes late 1st, our EDGE is Ford and Blair. Not awesome. But at least out interior DL of QW, Buck, Armstead, Thomas, Day, Street, and Jones is great. Bosa is the pick

lol this...people assuming he's gonna be there. better be prepared to move up then
so SF is bringing in Tyeler Davison who was the Saints starting NT last yr

Originally posted by NYniner85:
so SF is bringing in Tyeler Davison who was the Saints starting NT last yr


So? Mitchell left and as it stands we only have 1 NT, of course they're going to bring someone in.
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