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*UPDATED* Draft picks the 49ers own for 2023
Mar 4, 2023 at 5:59 AM
- LifelongNiner
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I'd rather let the draft come to them. This team does a great job with the later picks. Of course we address out needs, but this could be a special draft depending on how things fall.
Mar 13, 2023 at 9:59 AM
- jersey49er
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2024 we will be loaded with more picks
If all lost, we would prob be rewarded these, but there should be some signings to erase the comp picks, but regardless we won't sign as many players as we lose so we will get a lot of comp picks next year.
Jimmy- 3rd rd comp
Mcglinchey- 4th rd comp, Maybe 3rd
Ward- 4th rd comp
Aziz- 4th rd comp-
Ebukam- 4th rd comp
Brendal- 5th rd comp
Omenihu- 5th rd comp
Brunskil- 6th rd comp- Gipson signing erases
Gould 6th rd comp
Ridgeway 7th rd comp
If all lost, we would prob be rewarded these, but there should be some signings to erase the comp picks, but regardless we won't sign as many players as we lose so we will get a lot of comp picks next year.
Jimmy- 3rd rd comp
Mcglinchey- 4th rd comp, Maybe 3rd
Ward- 4th rd comp
Aziz- 4th rd comp-
Ebukam- 4th rd comp
Brendal- 5th rd comp
Omenihu- 5th rd comp
Brunskil- 6th rd comp- Gipson signing erases
Gould 6th rd comp
Ridgeway 7th rd comp
Mar 13, 2023 at 10:04 AM
- jimrat
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Hopefully we have a 1986 type draft
Mar 13, 2023 at 11:54 AM
- simplyfloyd
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I'm not sure it's ideal for us to trade picks that give us more capital next year. We already get all our picks back 1-7, plus the extra 3rds for Carthan, and Demeco getting signed...plus Garoppolo and McGlinchey, and who knows who else will be signed. I would expect a few more 4th and 5ths. We'll have more than enough for next year.
I would use every pick we have this year, move up if it makes sense but I would stock up on DL, OL, TE, and DB's. We are set everywhere else. RBs, Good, WR's, Good, LB's...good but we could use a pick this year if we lose Azeez...which we will.
Very excited for us this year again, Kyle and John have done an amaznig Job of getting talent but also offloading to get more capital for leverage. We are in a good spot.
Getting Hargrove is Huge, man...He'll help a ton in the middle.
I would use every pick we have this year, move up if it makes sense but I would stock up on DL, OL, TE, and DB's. We are set everywhere else. RBs, Good, WR's, Good, LB's...good but we could use a pick this year if we lose Azeez...which we will.
Very excited for us this year again, Kyle and John have done an amaznig Job of getting talent but also offloading to get more capital for leverage. We are in a good spot.
Getting Hargrove is Huge, man...He'll help a ton in the middle.
Mar 13, 2023 at 2:01 PM
- pdc20
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I'd rather let the draft come to them. This team does a great job with the later picks. Of course we address out needs, but this could be a special draft depending on how things fall.
Exactly. Use the 11 picks. It gives the team more chances to find solid players. They should draft another QB by the way in the latter rounds.
Mar 13, 2023 at 11:56 PM
- 49ers808
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Originally posted by jersey49er:
2024 we will be loaded with more picks
If all lost, we would prob be rewarded these, but there should be some signings to erase the comp picks, but regardless we won't sign as many players as we lose so we will get a lot of comp picks next year.
Jimmy- 3rd rd comp
Mcglinchey- 4th rd comp, Maybe 3rd
Ward- 4th rd comp
Aziz- 4th rd comp-
Ebukam- 4th rd comp
Brendal- 5th rd comp
Omenihu- 5th rd comp
Brunskil- 6th rd comp- Gipson signing erases
Gould 6th rd comp
Ridgeway 7th rd comp
I think Hargrave would take away one of the 3rds right?
Mar 18, 2023 at 5:54 AM
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Originally posted by miked1978:Totally agree and I am against trying to get into the 2nd. It's a pipe dream when you factor in the capital it will take to get there. Furthermore, the players that some are lamenting that we lost,
Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
I don't see us keeping 99,100, and 101. 3 picks back to back. I can see us trading two and moving up to the second
Probably right but according to the draft value chart you'd have to trade all 3 just to get into the end of the 2nd. I'd rather not. I'd rather trade 1 for a 3rd next year.
Charles Omenihu (5th round pick)
Samson Ebukam (4th round pick)
Jordan Willis (we can still sign him, but he was a 3rd round pick)
as then there are the UDFAs, Azeez Al-Shaair, Daniel Brunskill, and Emmanuel Mosely.
The point being that you can add A LOT of good talent on day 3 of the draft and having so many picks gives us multiple shots at this. Given how well we do on day 3, we could come away with 5 or 6 contributors from this draft a lot which will be crucial for the long term health of this team, given how top heavy we are with contracts.
Originally posted by jersey49er:
2024 we will be loaded with more picks
If all lost, we would prob be rewarded these, but there should be some signings to erase the comp picks, but regardless we won't sign as many players as we lose so we will get a lot of comp picks next year.
Jimmy- 3rd rd comp
Mcglinchey- 4th rd comp, Maybe 3rd
Ward- 4th rd comp
Aziz- 4th rd comp-
Ebukam- 4th rd comp
Brendal- 5th rd comp
Omenihu- 5th rd comp
Brunskil- 6th rd comp- Gipson signing erases
Gould 6th rd comp
Ridgeway 7th rd comp
Why would the signing of our our FA erase a departure? I can see the Isaiah Oliver contract erasing a comp pick however. What's great is that next year we have have 11+ picks again. With us having a first and second again, we could really do some damage. The 2024 draft is the one I'd move up in, not 2023.
Mar 19, 2023 at 8:26 AM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by jimrat:
Hopefully we have a 1986 type draft
Ditto. I imagine there are a lot of guys teams usually want in the middle. We have a shot to get two guys at each position group we want to strengthen. Two run stuffers (I'm confident we can keep both or have 1 on the active roster and 1 on the practice squad), two FS (replacing Ward and Moore), two DEs, two CBs, etc. I want a Noah's Ark draft lol.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
2024 we will be loaded with more picks
If all lost, we would prob be rewarded these, but there should be some signings to erase the comp picks, but regardless we won't sign as many players as we lose so we will get a lot of comp picks next year.
Jimmy- 3rd rd comp
Mcglinchey- 4th rd comp, Maybe 3rd
Ward- 4th rd comp
Aziz- 4th rd comp-
Ebukam- 4th rd comp
Brendal- 5th rd comp
Omenihu- 5th rd comp
Brunskil- 6th rd comp- Gipson signing erases
Gould 6th rd comp
Ridgeway 7th rd comp
I think Hargrave would take away one of the 3rds right?
Definitely. But I'm guessing we will have four thirds in all. One that is our own, two for coaching and GM hires, and one for FA losses. Pretty sweet.
Mar 19, 2023 at 8:32 AM
- Butter
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Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
I'm not sure it's ideal for us to trade picks that give us more capital next year. We already get all our picks back 1-7, plus the extra 3rds for Carthan, and Demeco getting signed...plus Garoppolo and McGlinchey, and who knows who else will be signed. I would expect a few more 4th and 5ths. We'll have more than enough for next year.
I would use every pick we have this year, move up if it makes sense but I would stock up on DL, OL, TE, and DB's. We are set everywhere else. RBs, Good, WR's, Good, LB's...good but we could use a pick this year if we lose Azeez...which we will.
Very excited for us this year again, Kyle and John have done an amaznig Job of getting talent but also offloading to get more capital for leverage. We are in a good spot.
Getting Hargrove is Huge, man...He'll help a ton in the middle.
I agree with this. I do like the idea of trading up. The Niners do have a lot of needs, but a team at this level should be focusing on quality, not quantity.
Mar 19, 2023 at 9:22 AM
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Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by simplyfloyd:
I'm not sure it's ideal for us to trade picks that give us more capital next year. We already get all our picks back 1-7, plus the extra 3rds for Carthan, and Demeco getting signed...plus Garoppolo and McGlinchey, and who knows who else will be signed. I would expect a few more 4th and 5ths. We'll have more than enough for next year.
I would use every pick we have this year, move up if it makes sense but I would stock up on DL, OL, TE, and DB's. We are set everywhere else. RBs, Good, WR's, Good, LB's...good but we could use a pick this year if we lose Azeez...which we will.
Very excited for us this year again, Kyle and John have done an amaznig Job of getting talent but also offloading to get more capital for leverage. We are in a good spot.
Getting Hargrove is Huge, man...He'll help a ton in the middle.
I agree with this. I do like the idea of trading up. The Niners do have a lot of needs, but a team at this level should be focusing on quality, not quantity.
But our picks are low and you aren't moving up much. Unless the value is there, I don't see the sense in moving up. You aren't getting significantly better quality. Plus the picks you are giving up to move up are in the very rounds many of these players that departed were drafted in.
Just platoon the positions of weakness.
Mar 19, 2023 at 9:43 AM
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Originally posted by jersey49er:
2024 we will be loaded with more picks
If all lost, we would prob be rewarded these, but there should be some signings to erase the comp picks, but regardless we won't sign as many players as we lose so we will get a lot of comp picks next year.
Jimmy- 3rd rd comp
Mcglinchey- 4th rd comp, Maybe 3rd
Ward- 4th rd comp
Aziz- 4th rd comp-
Ebukam- 4th rd comp
Brendal- 5th rd comp
Omenihu- 5th rd comp
Brunskil- 6th rd comp- Gipson signing erases
Gould 6th rd comp
Ridgeway 7th rd comp
This is kinda how I think it will shake out…
1st (ours)
2nd (ours)
3 3rds (ours/McGlinchey/loss of GM/HC)
4th (ours)
5th (lost ours for CMC trade got Ebukam comp)
2 6ths (ours and loss Mosley)
2 7ths (ours loss of ridgeway)
Darnold and Ward canceled each other out according to OTC.
FWIW you can only get up to 4 comp picks for lost FAs. So toss in the extra 3rd for lost GM/HC as well as all our normal picks minus our original 5th which we lost for CMC.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Mar 19, 2023 at 9:49 AM ]
Mar 19, 2023 at 9:51 AM
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
But our picks are low and you aren't moving up much. Unless the value is there, I don't see the sense in moving up. You aren't getting significantly better quality. Plus the picks you are giving up to move up are in the very rounds many of these players that departed were drafted in.
Just platoon the positions of weakness.
How many guys are making this final roster? You're gonna end up cutting a bunch of them and praying they make it to the PS (where they can get poached all year)
Moving up should be in the cards this yr without a doubt.
Mar 19, 2023 at 9:56 AM
- random49er
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Don't see a first or anything, but could certainly see us sneaking up into the late 2nd or getting another 3rd
Mar 19, 2023 at 8:55 PM
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Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
I could not find this already posted, and trying to find which picks the 49ers hold in the upcoming draft was not easy. So, I would like to have them listed here until the draft war room lists them.
The 49ers own 10 draft picks:
Round 3: Pick, 99
Round 3: Pick, 100
Round 3: Pick, 101
Round 5: Pick, 157
Round 5: Pick, 166
Round 5: Pick, 173
Round 6: Pick, 216
Round 7: Pick, 224
Round 7: Pick, 249
Round 7: Pick, 255
Can you say, trade up?
Those 5th round picks are looking pretty tasty right now.
That's where we get a lot of our best players. So probably best to keep those. 5th round is better than 1st round for this team.
Mar 20, 2023 at 4:03 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
But our picks are low and you aren't moving up much. Unless the value is there, I don't see the sense in moving up. You aren't getting significantly better quality. Plus the picks you are giving up to move up are in the very rounds many of these players that departed were drafted in.
Just platoon the positions of weakness.
How many guys are making this final roster? You're gonna end up cutting a bunch of them and praying they make it to the PS (where they can get poached all year)
Moving up should be in the cards this yr without a doubt.
Recent FA signings have changed my numbers a lot (adding Oliver and Hartsfield), so the number has dropped significantly. But as it stands now I can see two TEs, two corners (wouldn't be shocked if Thomas got beat out), a run stuffer, one or two O-linemen, a safety, and an edge rusher making the roster. That puts us at 9 with no one on the practice squad yet.
You proposed a more sensible trade with using a single third and a third next year to move up- no problem there. My issue is the idea of trading more than 2 picks for a player that is going to be how much better than who we get at 99, 101, etc.
Now if draft day comes and at 99 we see a few guys we really like, go for it. But I just don't see the value being there.
My question to thr trade up crowd is how many locks do you have for this roster? Are there more than 42 guys that just couldn't be beaten out?