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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
SF needs some bulk in that interior DL.
You mean Maliek Collins who they're paying $10 mil this season and Jordan Elliot aren't enough?? Both have been pretty solid run stoppers the last couple of seasons.
Draft McKinley Jackson with one of the 4th rounders and profit
Originally posted by Kolohe:
You mean Maliek Collins who they're paying $10 mil this season and Jordan Elliot aren't enough?? Both have been pretty solid run stoppers the last couple of seasons.
Originally posted by miked1978:
Why are you putting words in my mouth? Who is saying he'd be the heir apparent to Trent Williams? I honestly think he should be given a shot at OT before making a move to G. You said you'd rather have Rosengarten did anyone accuse you of saying Rosengarten was going to be the heir apparent to Trent? No!!!
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
SF needs some bulk in that interior DL.
You mean Maliek Collins who they're paying $10 mil this season and Jordan Elliot aren't enough?? Both have been pretty solid run stoppers the last couple of seasons.
Draft McKinley Jackson with one of the 4th rounders and profit
Bingo!!!!
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
You mean Maliek Collins who they're paying $10 mil this season and Jordan Elliot aren't enough?? Both have been pretty solid run stoppers the last couple of seasons.
Both are improvements from last year, but neither is a nose. They're both 3 techniques.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
SF needs some bulk in that interior DL.
You mean Maliek Collins who they're paying $10 mil this season and Jordan Elliot aren't enough?? Both have been pretty solid run stoppers the last couple of seasons.
Draft McKinley Jackson with one of the 4th rounders and profit
Bingo!!!!
We met with him as well
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
You mean Maliek Collins who they're paying $10 mil this season and Jordan Elliot aren't enough?? Both have been pretty solid run stoppers the last couple of seasons.
Both are improvements from last year, but neither is a nose. They're both 3 techniques.
Well they're both not gonna sit. And if they need a NT they can get one in the later rounds.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:This has been my thought of thinking for the past month. If Newton is there at #31 (possiblyity about 33%) or if Mims is there at #31 (maybe a 25% chance), Niners should take BPA. If neither is there, trade back at #31 with Washington (for example) and get #36 and #100 in return. At #36, Niners can take Kingsley Suamataia, who has a higher ceiling than Rosengarten (or Morgan). Like the picks of Melton CB at #63 and Sinnott TE at #94, then onto #100.
Originally posted by NYniner85:from Daniel Jeremiah....
Originally posted by miked1978:
According to the consensus big board at nflmockdraftdatabase Morgan is 36. Listed as a tackle too.
I have no idea what a consensus big board is? People that I follow don't have him as a OT.
Dane Brugler/Brandon Thorn etc. there isn't a single draft profile about him that doesn't say he's projected to play inside.
"Morgan is a very athletic left tackle with average size. In pass pro, he is quick out of his stance to meet and cover up speed rushers. He can sink his weight and drop levels when bull rushed. He also does a nice job re-working his hands when he gets knocked back to regain leverage. He struggles to redirect inside when facing counter moves, getting beat on that inside shoulder too often. He also will occasionally duck his head, which is correctable. In the run game, he is more finesse than power. He can use his quickness to cut off the back side and he takes excellent angles to the second level to wall off linebackers. He doesn't have a lot of knock-back power to displace defenders over his nose. Morgan is just over a year removed from ACL surgery, and I'm hopeful he can add more strength/power now that he's healthy. Overall, he has starting tackle ability."
I wouldnt mind him if the 49ers could move down several spots and pick up at least another 3rd. There arent many players at all that I am super excited to get at 31. Trading back makes a lot of sense this year.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by NYniner85:from Daniel Jeremiah....
Originally posted by miked1978:
According to the consensus big board at nflmockdraftdatabase Morgan is 36. Listed as a tackle too.
I have no idea what a consensus big board is? People that I follow don't have him as a OT.
Dane Brugler/Brandon Thorn etc. there isn't a single draft profile about him that doesn't say he's projected to play inside.
"Morgan is a very athletic left tackle with average size. In pass pro, he is quick out of his stance to meet and cover up speed rushers. He can sink his weight and drop levels when bull rushed. He also does a nice job re-working his hands when he gets knocked back to regain leverage. He struggles to redirect inside when facing counter moves, getting beat on that inside shoulder too often. He also will occasionally duck his head, which is correctable. In the run game, he is more finesse than power. He can use his quickness to cut off the back side and he takes excellent angles to the second level to wall off linebackers. He doesn't have a lot of knock-back power to displace defenders over his nose. Morgan is just over a year removed from ACL surgery, and I'm hopeful he can add more strength/power now that he's healthy. Overall, he has starting tackle ability."
I wouldnt mind him if the 49ers could move down several spots and pick up at least another 3rd. There arent many players at all that I am super excited to get at 31. Trading back makes a lot of sense this year.
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
I cant remember what podcast i heard it on...but someone said Morgan can't move to G because he doesn't handle power at all.
There is a ton of film of Morgan being bullrushed by the sub par talent in the PAC.
The concern is his arms are too short for OT and he fails at OG because he will get demolished by NFL quality interior DL.
Originally posted by crew:
This has been my thought of thinking for the past month. If Newton is there at #31 (possiblyity about 33%) or if Mims is there at #31 (maybe a 25% chance), Niners should take BPA. If neither is there, trade back at #31 with Washington (for example) and get #36 and #100 in return. At #36, Niners can take Kingsley Suamataia, who has a higher ceiling than Rosengarten (or Morgan). Like the picks of Melton CB at #63 and Sinnott TE at #94, then onto #100.
Originally posted by scooterhd:
Some guys are guards that are playing tackle in college, and so it works out. They have a mauler mentality in the run game. Figures are a little more square. Play with great leverage. Can manipulate defenders into certain directions. If they have an elite LT next to them, they would have been a LG from the get go.
Other guys are natural tackles but with trex arms. Morgan is a dancing bear. Great footwork, can mirror pass rushers, very fluid and balanced in his drop back, calibrates well, has patience. Love his physical (besides arms) and mental profile as a tackle. Look at his body in gym clothes, and the figure is a tackle. Unfortunately, he raises pads when run blocking and stalls his push. He is armsy on zone blocks and doesnt get out in front of defenders. I dont see efficiency in holding angles open for gaps. I dont think he is a guard. He doesnt look like a guard. He doesnt do guard things well. Hes a tackle with short arms. So you try him at tackle, see if it works, and if not plug him at guard and hope that works. And if not, then youve get a versatile backup on the bench but I dont think thats what we were shooting for.
Originally posted by adrianlesnar:Doesn't have to be Washington, Niners can trade down with New England for #34 and #103 or Carolina for #33 and #101. The point is that #31 is too high for Morgan (#36), Suamataia (#43) or Rosengarten (#85). Having that extra pick at top of 4th Rd pick would be golden.
Originally posted by crew:
This has been my thought of thinking for the past month. If Newton is there at #31 (possiblyity about 33%) or if Mims is there at #31 (maybe a 25% chance), Niners should take BPA. If neither is there, trade back at #31 with Washington (for example) and get #36 and #100 in return. At #36, Niners can take Kingsley Suamataia, who has a higher ceiling than Rosengarten (or Morgan). Like the picks of Melton CB at #63 and Sinnott TE at #94, then onto #100.
If Washington trades up, it'll be for a tackle. Why would they trade up for a worse tackle than the one we take at their original spot?