🏈 2024 NFL ENTRY DRAFT 🏈-Do not tip picks!

Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
So what grade overall do you give our draft, feels like a solid B + to me. What say you?

I give it somewhere between an F and A. I'll let you know for sure in around 4 years.

It seems we did okay but the Rams had a hell of a draft dang it and AZ made a haul too.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
It seems we did okay but the Rams had a hell of a draft dang it and AZ made a haul too.

Verse, Fiske, Kinchens are the picks I like the most.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
So what grade overall do you give our draft, feels like a solid B + to me. What say you?

That sounds about right

I'm going A/-A. Thought it was a really good draft. I legit think Pearsall, Greene, Puni, Mustafa will all be starting next year. Greene and Mustafa have a chance to start this year with Pearsall being our WR3. Puni takes over for Feliciano next year.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm gonna say B.

I felt they should've addressed OT in the 1st or 2nd round.

Should've drafted a TE in the middle rounds in Jared Wiley or Eric All.

Other than that I'm good with this draft and the players they chose. I think Guerendo and Cowing are gonna be early contributors.

They would have had to move up to get a OT worth taking. I liked kinglsey, but he was a developmental guy who probably doesn't get on the field this yr.

I have no idea what to think about with All. He wouldn't play this yr either. overall this was a bad TE class imo.

I'm good with the guys they picked overall. It's tough to get true studs at premium positions when you're drafting almost last in every rd.

I really liked it. We didn't chase any positions where the draft was weak. We got a nice spread of picks, mature types, team captains etc. I think Puni starts during the course of this year. No cringes. No major reaches. No Baalke picks. No injury plagued guys. Nice!

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
So what grade overall do you give our draft, feels like a solid B + to me. What say you?

I give it somewhere between an F and A. I'll let you know for sure in around 4 years.

C/D. Can't be higher than that when you reach on the first two picks. Only two teams I'd put us comfortably ahead of are the Falcons and Broncos who reached for QBs (particularly Falcons). Should have gone Suamataia in 2nd. Green or a comparable CB would have been there with our 3rd round pick (Jackson, Tampa). Cam Hart is a better prospect imo (ND corners shut down Marvin Harrison Jr) and he went in the 5th round.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
So what grade overall do you give our draft, feels like a solid B + to me. What say you?

I give it somewhere between an F and A. I'll let you know for sure in around 4 years.

C/D. Can't be higher than that when you reach on the first two picks. Only two teams I'd put us comfortably ahead of are the Falcons and Broncos who reached for QBs (particularly Falcons). Should have gone Suamataia in 2nd. Green or a comparable CB would have been there with our 3rd round pick (Jackson, Tampa). Cam Hart is a better prospect imo (ND corners shut down Marvin Harrison Jr) and he went in the 5th round.

I don't see how Pearsall was a reach. Maybe he seems like a reach because most big boards thought he'd go 15 picks later. But look at his RAS. Since 1987, only 31 WR prospects have ever scored higher in their athletic profiles. That's over 3,400 players, which puts him well into the 99th percentile of NFL WR athletes. Elite explosion, speed, and agility scores. Then you factor in that he has the best hands in the draft. Then you factor in that he's among the most technically sound route runners in this class. Then you factor in that he has the ability to maneuver his body and make circus catches. If you were to describe this explosive athlete with all these traits, I'd have told you that's a top ten pick. To me, teams maybe thought that others were sleeping on this kid and hoped to get him early in the 2nd. I think we may have grabbed the BPA. Time will tell, but I have a feeling that he's going to make it impossible for Kyle to take him off the field at some point next season.

Originally posted by Chance:
I don't see how Pearsall was a reach. Maybe he seems like a reach because most big boards thought he'd go 15 picks later. But look at his RAS. Since 1987, only 31 WR prospects have ever scored higher in their athletic profiles. That's over 3,400 players, which puts him well into the 99th percentile of NFL WR athletes. Elite explosion, speed, and agility scores. Then you factor in that he has the best hands in the draft. Then you factor in that he's among the most technically sound route runners in this class. Then you factor in that he has the ability to maneuver his body and make circus catches. If you were to describe this explosive athlete with all these traits, I'd have told you that's a top ten pick. To me, teams maybe thought that others were sleeping on this kid and hoped to get him early in the 2nd. I think we may have grabbed the BPA. Time will tell, but I have a feeling that he's going to make it impossible for Kyle to take him off the field at some point next season.

Great RAS but he should be physically more mature than guys a couple years younger than him (turns 24 in September). Not many 6'1 189 pound 24 yr olds with short arms going in the first round let alone top 10.

5 WRs picked between 31 and 37. If Pearsall is your guy, you are taking a massive gamble that he escapes that run. Might have felt like a reach in the moment. Might have felt like the 49ers could have maximized value by moving back to 36, but in hindsight they picked on the topside of the WR run and got their guy. Whether Pearsall is the right guy or not is a different story, but they read the draft right.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm gonna say B.

I felt they should've addressed OT in the 1st or 2nd round.

Should've drafted a TE in the middle rounds in Jared Wiley or Eric All.

Other than that I'm good with this draft and the players they chose. I think Guerendo and Cowing are gonna be early contributors.

They would have had to move up to get a OT worth taking. I liked kinglsey, but he was a developmental guy who probably doesn't get on the field this yr.

I have no idea what to think about with All. He wouldn't play this yr either. overall this was a bad TE class imo.

I'm good with the guys they picked overall. It's tough to get true studs at premium positions when you're drafting almost last in every rd.

49ers basically gave Kingsley to the Chiefs, that's the direction I thought they were going to go.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Great RAS but he should be physically more mature than guys a couple years younger than him (turns 24 in September). Not many 6'1 189 pound 24 yr olds with short arms going in the first round let alone top 10.

Can you you link these 6'1", 189 pound 24 yr olds that are great route runners and has this a similar RAS score?

If we are going to say "Not many",....let's put some names on the table and add some context, no?

Originally posted by random49er:
Can you you link these 6'1", 189 pound 24 yr olds that are great route runners and has this a similar RAS score?

If we are going to say "Not many",....let's put some names on the table and add some context, no?

His RAS score sounds really impressive if you include a bunch of history where athletes didn't train for the combine like they do today. Half the draftable class is 9 or higher.

I also think Pearsall's score was inflated by a very fast 10Y split (1.49). If you look at simulcams, there's a lot of error in measuring 10Y split times. Legette ran faster in the 40 with similar (slightly worse) jumps but his 10Y split was 1.57. If Pearsall's 10Y split was closer to Legette's, his RAS score goes down to ~9.8 (was 9.78 before bench and split times were finalized).

Pearsall's 9.91 RAS score was #4 among WRs this draft (after Mitchell, Odunze, and Walker). It would have been 4th or tied for 4th each of the past 3 years. He's not a better athlete than Nabers (it isn't close) regardless of RAS score. Brian Thomas was in the 9.8s but would have been above Pearsall if he didn't bench press (everything is weighted equally even though bench matters a lot less for a WR).

Pearsall is a great athlete but not an exceptional one and he's on the older side with short arms (neither is captured in RAS and if anything short arms is a benefit on the bench). I do think there was a drop-off in talent towards the end of the first round so agreed it's not a huge reach. I prefer Pearsall to McConkey, Coleman, or Polk, but would have rather taken Legette.

I think BPA were: Newton, Dejean, Kool-Aid, Leggette, Powers-Johnson, Cooper, Mitchell (depending on character issues), Suamataia (debatable - think he's a future starting OT which are hard to find). ~40 was the right range for Pearsall so 31 isn't a disaster. I think our 2nd round pick was worse.

Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Ninerlakerdodger:
So what grade overall do you give our draft, feels like a solid B + to me. What say you?

I give it somewhere between an F and A. I'll let you know for sure in around 4 years.

C/D. Can't be higher than that when you reach on the first two picks. Only two teams I'd put us comfortably ahead of are the Falcons and Broncos who reached for QBs (particularly Falcons). Should have gone Suamataia in 2nd. Green or a comparable CB would have been there with our 3rd round pick (Jackson, Tampa). Cam Hart is a better prospect imo (ND corners shut down Marvin Harrison Jr) and he went in the 5th round.

Green shut down Nabers 1 on 1
While guarding Nabers:
• 1 interception
• 0 TDs allowed
• 1 PBU
• 5 targets
• 2 catches for 20 yards allowed
The most yards Green allowed in a game was 46. Green had the most press coverage snaps in cfb, was the 2nd highest graded CB in press. Top 5 in pass break ups with 16. He can play outside, inside, and safety. People out here acting like our first 2 picks were huuuuge reaches. Disregard the draft boards, just look at their tape, testing, fit for our scheme, etc and we couldn't have picked much better. And if you solely rely on what the draft community thinks, it's looks like our average draft grade from them is a B/B+

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm gonna say B.

I felt they should've addressed OT in the 1st or 2nd round.

Should've drafted a TE in the middle rounds in Jared Wiley or Eric All.

Other than that I'm good with this draft and the players they chose. I think Guerendo and Cowing are gonna be early contributors.

They would have had to move up to get a OT worth taking. I liked kinglsey, but he was a developmental guy who probably doesn't get on the field this yr.

I have no idea what to think about with All. He wouldn't play this yr either. overall this was a bad TE class imo.

I'm good with the guys they picked overall. It's tough to get true studs at premium positions when you're drafting almost last in every rd.

49ers basically gave Kingsley to the Chiefs, that's the direction I thought they were going to go.

Hope it doesn't turn out like the trade we made with the Bucs and they got Tristan Wirfs.