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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

Two bad INTs and a bad miss to Juice. That's three plays. I agree if he plays better we win. But to call it among "worst career games"? Let's take the whole game for what it was.

Saying lost us the game doesn't really mean much. For instance imagine someone catches 10 passes for 188 yards and 2 scores. Imagine same player drops a game winning TD. You could rightly say he "lost us the game" and indeed if he makes that one play we win. But in reality how would we have fared if he didn't play at all? It's an open question.

26-35, 74%, 322 pass yds, 1 TD 2 INT, 88 rating

Agree with you here man, that loss was on Jimmy BUT it certainly wasn't his worst game. I wanna say his home opener vs Arizona last season might be worst than this past one. People like to exaggerate the hell outta things because its a loss.

Yup

And again if the front office was as schizophrenic and emotional as people here, which is why I guess we're called fans, arguing about players would be pretty useless as it would almost literally be a different roster every game.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

Two bad INTs and a bad miss to Juice. That's three plays. I agree if he plays better we win. But to call it among "worst career games"? Let's take the whole game for what it was.

Saying lost us the game doesn't really mean much. For instance imagine someone catches 10 passes for 188 yards and 2 scores. Imagine same player drops a game winning TD. You could rightly say he "lost us the game" and indeed if he makes that one play we win. But in reality how would we have fared if he didn't play at all? It's an open question.

26-35, 74%, 322 pass yds, 1 TD 2 INT, 88 rating

Agree with you here man, that loss was on Jimmy BUT it certainly wasn't his worst game. I wanna say his home opener vs Arizona last season might be worst than this past one. People like to exaggerate the hell outta things because its a loss.
nah it was bad.. every pass was awfull. every thing was high, inaccurate, took 5 sec protection sacks.. just bad

Right, but was it his worst??
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

Two bad INTs and a bad miss to Juice. That's three plays. I agree if he plays better we win. But to call it among "worst career games"? Let's take the whole game for what it was.

Saying lost us the game doesn't really mean much. For instance imagine someone catches 10 passes for 188 yards and 2 scores. Imagine same player drops a game winning TD. You could rightly say he "lost us the game" and indeed if he makes that one play we win. But in reality how would we have fared if he didn't play at all? It's an open question.

26-35, 74%, 322 pass yds, 1 TD 2 INT, 88 rating
like he said... you didn't watch the game. it wasn't one or two plays.. it was overall bad. If it weren't for Deebo being a stud.. it was a really bad day

Really if one didn't watch the game they would judge only on the lowlights which were shared on here or on YouTube as the big moments of the game. One who watched the game would see all 35 pass attempts and judge them for what they were.
it's not just us here.. the nation thought it was equally bad
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

To a degree.

But then also to a larger degree anyone who believes that one single player loses a game that features 22 men on the field at almost all times is being extremely short sighted.

Jimmy played his part in the loss without a doubt. So too did the defense that allowed Tennessee to get into field goal range and allowed a 20 plus yard scramble to Tannehill with the game on the line. That after bottling up Tennessee's offense for the entire first half with Tannehill having a high completion percentage but no big plays started to rather routinely give up big chunk plays in the second half.

Heck Trent Williams jumping early was a big play that turned a makeable 4th and 1 into a 4th and 6th that we didn't convert late in the game. Didn't Alex Mack have a holding penalty or someone did to erase a nice play as well?

I'm no "Jimmy stan" whatever we call that or wherever we came up from that. I think all in all he's been a pretty good quarterback and I've defended him on here because if nothing else I've seen franchise after franchise get it wrong year after year if not for decades trying to find their go to franchise quarterback. Jimmy it would seem is clearly not that but the grass isn't always greener with other guys either.

People can't have it both ways. They can't say, "You can't cite Jimmy's won loss record because that's a team stat" and then say, "Jimmy lost us the game" when there were 10 other guys on offense, and more than that subbing in, 11 guys on defense, and more than that subbing in, and guys on special teams who in multiple cases and perhaps at multiple times screwed something up along the way.

Absolutely love your post Ohio, always the voice of reason.

Thank you
Originally posted by KittleMeThis:
let's be clear, the 3rd down defense and Jimmy lost us the game.

But jimmy over throwing Kyle Jusz was a damn killer. that would have changed the game IMO.

Just FWIW that happened before the injury before the thumb excuse rolls in
So he's going to play with a fractured thumb on his throwing hand? That makes no sense
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

Two bad INTs and a bad miss to Juice. That's three plays. I agree if he plays better we win. But to call it among "worst career games"? Let's take the whole game for what it was.

Saying lost us the game doesn't really mean much. For instance imagine someone catches 10 passes for 188 yards and 2 scores. Imagine same player drops a game winning TD. You could rightly say he "lost us the game" and indeed if he makes that one play we win. But in reality how would we have fared if he didn't play at all? It's an open question.

26-35, 74%, 322 pass yds, 1 TD 2 INT, 88 rating

Agree with you here man, that loss was on Jimmy BUT it certainly wasn't his worst game. I wanna say his home opener vs Arizona last season might be worst than this past one. People like to exaggerate the hell outta things because its a loss.
nah it was bad.. every pass was awfull. every thing was high, inaccurate, took 5 sec protection sacks.. just bad

Right, but was it his worst??
so many to choose from.. if this isn't, then it's close
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

Two bad INTs and a bad miss to Juice. That's three plays. I agree if he plays better we win. But to call it among "worst career games"? Let's take the whole game for what it was.

Saying lost us the game doesn't really mean much. For instance imagine someone catches 10 passes for 188 yards and 2 scores. Imagine same player drops a game winning TD. You could rightly say he "lost us the game" and indeed if he makes that one play we win. But in reality how would we have fared if he didn't play at all? It's an open question.

26-35, 74%, 322 pass yds, 1 TD 2 INT, 88 rating

Agree with you here man, that loss was on Jimmy BUT it certainly wasn't his worst game. I wanna say his home opener vs Arizona last season might be worst than this past one. People like to exaggerate the hell outta things because its a loss.
nah it was bad.. every pass was awfull. every thing was high, inaccurate, took 5 sec protection sacks.. just bad

Right, but was it his worst??

Didn't we lose by 50 points last week? Feels like it going by some of the views here
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

To a degree.

But then also to a larger degree anyone who believes that one single player loses a game that features 22 men on the field at almost all times is being extremely short sighted.

Jimmy played his part in the loss without a doubt. So too did the defense that allowed Tennessee to get into field goal range and allowed a 20 plus yard scramble to Tannehill with the game on the line. That after bottling up Tennessee's offense for the entire first half with Tannehill having a high completion percentage but no big plays started to rather routinely give up big chunk plays in the second half.

Heck Trent Williams jumping early was a big play that turned a makeable 4th and 1 into a 4th and 6th that we didn't convert late in the game. Didn't Alex Mack have a holding penalty or someone did to erase a nice play as well?

I'm no "Jimmy stan" whatever we call that or wherever we came up from that. I think all in all he's been a pretty good quarterback and I've defended him on here because if nothing else I've seen franchise after franchise get it wrong year after year if not for decades trying to find their go to franchise quarterback. Jimmy it would seem is clearly not that but the grass isn't always greener with other guys either.

People can't have it both ways. They can't say, "You can't cite Jimmy's won loss record because that's a team stat" and then say, "Jimmy lost us the game" when there were 10 other guys on offense, and more than that subbing in, 11 guys on defense, and more than that subbing in, and guys on special teams who in multiple cases and perhaps at multiple times screwed something up along the way.

Absolutely love your post Ohio, always the voice of reason.

Thank you

Yes it's a team game where the QB matters the most. He lost that game. Inaccurate, won't go deep, timid, holding on too long etc etc. he was a mess.
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…


Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

People can't have it both ways. They can't say, "You can't cite Jimmy's won loss record because that's a team stat" and then say, "Jimmy lost us the game" when there were 10 other guys on offense, and more than that subbing in, 11 guys on defense, and more than that subbing in, and guys on special teams who in multiple cases and perhaps at multiple times screwed something up along the way.

Sure they can. "Jimmy is X and Y as a starter!" contains no context and thus the win-loss record of a TEAM cannot fully or accurately portray the abilities of an individual player. "Jimmy lost this game for our team because of X and Y" does contain the context to attribute a loss to one individual primary contributer.

Interception in the endzone. Loss of points. Missed Juice. Loss of points. Interception on our side of the field. Led to their points. Yes, the defense struggled mightily in the second half. Yes, special teams are as abysmal as we've all come to expect. With that said, you expect your QB to be good enough to overcome these struggles, and make up for any weak links. No QB, no matter how good, can make up for a bad team 17 games a year. But one or two? Absolutely. Versus a beat up Titans team, Jimmy handed them the game. Going into half time someone tweeted how good the defense had looked. I responded, long road trip on a short week, offense is going to need to start sustaining some drives if we are to hold up. And sure enough, turnovers and short drives without points led to our defense getting absolutely gassed.
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I have no problem with Jimmy trying to tough it out. Thats what I want out of my quarterback. I certainly prefer it to declaring yourself out a couple of weeks for a calf strain immediately following a game prior to testing or evaluation.

I have no problem with gamesmanship or trying to give it a go, but for their own good, it should never be left up to the player.

Right. Like I said, I much prefer this than what he pulled in the past. He is the QB. He is the leader. Give it a shot! If he cant go, then next man up.

We can say he learned from his comments about the calf injury.

Yeah, at least he's giving it a shot. Good for him.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Yes it's a team game where the QB matters the most. He lost that game. Inaccurate, won't go deep, timid, holding on too long etc etc. he was a mess.
lol, blaming the Defense or whatnot when the offense is in charge of scoring
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Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I like how Jimmy said "I played the entire Titans game with it hurt, so I think I can go this week." Uh, you had one of your worst career games. How about sit this one out…

I agree he didn't play great but let's get real he had an 88 rating. If one of your "worst career games" is an 88 rating

Did you watch the game or just look at stats? He lost us the game.

Two bad INTs and a bad miss to Juice. That's three plays. I agree if he plays better we win. But to call it among "worst career games"? Let's take the whole game for what it was.

Saying lost us the game doesn't really mean much. For instance imagine someone catches 10 passes for 188 yards and 2 scores. Imagine same player drops a game winning TD. You could rightly say he "lost us the game" and indeed if he makes that one play we win. But in reality how would we have fared if he didn't play at all? It's an open question.

26-35, 74%, 322 pass yds, 1 TD 2 INT, 88 rating

Agree with you here man, that loss was on Jimmy BUT it certainly wasn't his worst game. I wanna say his home opener vs Arizona last season might be worst than this past one. People like to exaggerate the hell outta things because its a loss.
nah it was bad.. every pass was awfull. every thing was high, inaccurate, took 5 sec protection sacks.. just bad

Right, but was it his worst??

Didn't we lose by 50 points last week? Feels like it going by some of the views here

And as bad as they put it, you would've thought Jimmy was benched in the middle of the 2nd quarter.
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