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Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:07 AM
- ninersrule4
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Everything that has gone wrong this off season is this scrubs fault. It all started in the Superbowl a few years back.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:08 AM
- RackofRibs49
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Might as well just talk obsess and brag about Colt McCoy in 9er talk while you're here.
Meanwhile Mr hasn't accomplished nothing.
Winning is a team stat. MATT STAFFORD proved this by BEATING Jimmy, who "just wins" and getting a Super Bowl championship, the very first year he had a legitimate contender around him.
Matt Stafford made the plays to win. He drove the ball down the field to get the lead against us and Jimmy failed with his chance. Stafford drove the field to win a SB too. Jimmy could've made plays both NFCC and SB but he didn't and that's why I'm ok with Trey, Stafford made the plays to win.
True or false?(please just answer like I answered you)
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on Apr 20, 2022 at 11:09 AM ]
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:11 AM
- random49er
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Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Matt Stafford made the plays to win. He drove the ball down the field to get the lead against us and Jimmy failed with his chance. Stafford drove the field to win a SB too. Jimmy could've made plays both NFCC and SB but he didn't and that's why I'm ok with Trey, Stafford made the plays to win.
True or false?(please just answer like I answered you)
Jimmy's average to below-average.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:13 AM
- RackofRibs49
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Matt Stafford made the plays to win. He drove the ball down the field to get the lead against us and Jimmy failed with his chance. Stafford drove the field to win a SB too. Jimmy could've made plays both NFCC and SB but he didn't and that's why I'm ok with Trey, Stafford made the plays to win.
True or false?(please just answer like I answered you)
Jimmy's average to below-average.
I'll take that as a true. If you guys can't answer basic questions it's obvious you're afraid too.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:24 AM
- the_dynasty
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Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Ok what has Winston accomplished? I'll wait for your "but Jimmy non answer". You do realize that there are only about 20 out of 32 QBs here right? Right? Please?
Winston hasnt accomplished anything, really.
Neither has Jimmy.
I was addressing the chart you posted that has zero relevance to the "what has Winston accomplished" question.
Apr 20, 2022 at 11:59 AM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Deleted the pictures because there's no point to keeping them since we all know it's a list of win percentages.
Yeah, Stafford made the plays to win. Also threw for for 4886 yards and 41 touchdowns that year, proving that Detroit was holding him back. Because winning is a team stat. QBs play a big role, no doubt. But 10 other QBs could have won about the same amount of games as Jimmy did on this team.
Look at this:
Jimmy in SF: 0.6888 win percentage; 1.467 TDs per games started; 0.67 INTs per games started; 8.431 YPA; Average Total QBR (weighted for games started each season): 56.35; Passer rating: 98.3
Ryan Tannehill in TN: 0.698 win percentage; 1.767 TDs per games started; 0.628 iNTs per games started; 7.931 YPA; Average Total QBR (weighted for games each season): 64.0; Passer rating: 102.0
The bold above is the ONLY statistic—including win percentage—that Jimmy is better than Tannehill in since they both went to their respective teams.
So you're in agreement with these stats, then, which clearly show that Tannehill is the overall better QB?
.
.
See how I looked at ALL stats, including wins, instead of just the single stat Jimmy does really well in? (a stat, that mind you, has more influence from the team than all these other stats). The only real notable "wins" difference is that Tannehill lost to the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game, while Jimmy did so in the Super Bowl. Otherwise, both of them lost to the eventual Super Bowl participants this year.
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Might as well just talk obsess and brag about Colt McCoy in 9er talk while you're here.
Meanwhile Mr hasn't accomplished nothing.
Winning is a team stat. MATT STAFFORD proved this by BEATING Jimmy, who "just wins" and getting a Super Bowl championship, the very first year he had a legitimate contender around him.
Matt Stafford made the plays to win. He drove the ball down the field to get the lead against us and Jimmy failed with his chance. Stafford drove the field to win a SB too. Jimmy could've made plays both NFCC and SB but he didn't and that's why I'm ok with Trey, Stafford made the plays to win.
True or false?(please just answer like I answered you)
Yeah, Stafford made the plays to win. Also threw for for 4886 yards and 41 touchdowns that year, proving that Detroit was holding him back. Because winning is a team stat. QBs play a big role, no doubt. But 10 other QBs could have won about the same amount of games as Jimmy did on this team.
Look at this:
Jimmy in SF: 0.6888 win percentage; 1.467 TDs per games started; 0.67 INTs per games started; 8.431 YPA; Average Total QBR (weighted for games started each season): 56.35; Passer rating: 98.3
Ryan Tannehill in TN: 0.698 win percentage; 1.767 TDs per games started; 0.628 iNTs per games started; 7.931 YPA; Average Total QBR (weighted for games each season): 64.0; Passer rating: 102.0
The bold above is the ONLY statistic—including win percentage—that Jimmy is better than Tannehill in since they both went to their respective teams.
So you're in agreement with these stats, then, which clearly show that Tannehill is the overall better QB?
.
.
See how I looked at ALL stats, including wins, instead of just the single stat Jimmy does really well in? (a stat, that mind you, has more influence from the team than all these other stats). The only real notable "wins" difference is that Tannehill lost to the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game, while Jimmy did so in the Super Bowl. Otherwise, both of them lost to the eventual Super Bowl participants this year.
Apr 20, 2022 at 12:04 PM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Joecool:
PIT and maybe CAR instant playoff teams if they get JG. Not sure why they won't go for it.
My guess: because Winston played better than Jimmy did last year and is getting 14 million per year on average. Jimmy's overpaid by about 12 million. Both coming off injury, both in that mid tier (although Winston played very close to the top tier, despite the hate from people who have literally not even watched a 2021 highlight film from him). So Winston set the market, and Jimmy is simply overpriced.
In addition to the draft capital.
What has Winston ever accomplished?
He looked really good last year. Do you deny it? (have you even looked?)
Teams pay for what a player IS, not what he was, and not what his team is.
Apr 20, 2022 at 12:10 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Winston hasnt accomplished anything individually.
Jimmy hasnt accmplished anything individually.
What are we doing here?
Jimmy hasnt accmplished anything individually.
What are we doing here?
Apr 20, 2022 at 12:22 PM
- RackofRibs49
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Winston hasnt accomplished anything individually.
Jimmy hasnt accmplished anything individually.
What are we doing here?
Dunno, you guys are the ones goggling all over a Jamies F* Winston all while complaining every single day about Jimmy. Then I ask what he's done that Jimmy hasn't and you can't name a single thing. Meanwhile Jimmy has been deep into the playoffs and done nothing but win unlike your boy Winston.
Where are you going?
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on Apr 20, 2022 at 12:26 PM ]
Apr 20, 2022 at 12:27 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Winston hasnt accomplished anything individually.
Jimmy hasnt accmplished anything individually.
What are we doing here?
Dunno, you guys are the ones slobbering all over a Jamies F* Winston all while complaining every single day about Jimmy.
Where are you going?
It continues to amaze me how bringing up another QB means we are slobbering over him.
Winston makes $14M a year. Jimmy makes $27M. I cant imagine that would matter at all to people.
Apr 20, 2022 at 12:30 PM
- RackofRibs49
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:Meh... If you wanna love on Winston for nothing keep it up. You couldn't answer my basic question so it just proves you have no argument.
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Winston hasnt accomplished anything individually.
Jimmy hasnt accmplished anything individually.
What are we doing here?
Dunno, you guys are the ones slobbering all over a Jamies F* Winston all while complaining every single day about Jimmy.
Where are you going?
It continues to amaze me how bringing up another QB means we are slobbering over him.
Winston makes $14M a year. Jimmy makes $27M. I cant imagine that would matter at all to people.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Deleted the pictures because there's no point to keeping them since we all know it's a list of win percentages.
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Might as well just talk obsess and brag about Colt McCoy in 9er talk while you're here.
Meanwhile Mr hasn't accomplished nothing.
Winning is a team stat. MATT STAFFORD proved this by BEATING Jimmy, who "just wins" and getting a Super Bowl championship, the very first year he had a legitimate contender around him.
Matt Stafford made the plays to win. He drove the ball down the field to get the lead against us and Jimmy failed with his chance. Stafford drove the field to win a SB too. Jimmy could've made plays both NFCC and SB but he didn't and that's why I'm ok with Trey, Stafford made the plays to win.
True or false?(please just answer like I answered you)
Yeah, Stafford made the plays to win. Also threw for for 4886 yards and 41 touchdowns that year, proving that Detroit was holding him back. Because winning is a team stat. QBs play a big role, no doubt. But 10 other QBs could have won about the same amount of games as Jimmy did on this team.
Look at this:
Jimmy in SF: 0.6888 win percentage; 1.467 TDs per games started; 0.67 INTs per games started; 8.431 YPA; Average Total QBR (weighted for games started each season): 56.35; Passer rating: 98.3
Ryan Tannehill in TN: 0.698 win percentage; 1.767 TDs per games started; 0.628 iNTs per games started; 7.931 YPA; Average Total QBR (weighted for games each season): 64.0; Passer rating: 102.0
The bold above is the ONLY statistic—including win percentage—that Jimmy is better than Tannehill in since they both went to their respective teams.
So you're in agreement with these stats, then, which clearly show that Tannehill is the overall better QB?
.
.
See how I looked at ALL stats, including wins, instead of just the single stat Jimmy does really well in? (a stat, that mind you, has more influence from the team than all these other stats). The only real notable "wins" difference is that Tannehill lost to the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game, while Jimmy did so in the Super Bowl. Otherwise, both of them lost to the eventual Super Bowl participants this year.
Tannehill is a good QB, just like Jimmy. I would put them on the same level. Just like with overrated but still good Cousins. All are much better than just being downright disrespectful to football and sports in general like you guys did with Winston for sure.
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on Apr 20, 2022 at 12:45 PM ]
Apr 20, 2022 at 12:58 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Meh... If you wanna love on Winston for nothing keep it up. You couldn't answer my basic question so it just proves you have no argument.
WTF are you even talking about. I dont love Winston. I answered your question twice, but you refuse to acknowledge it.
Winston hasnt accomplished much of anything individually. There. A third time for you.
But again for the 3rd time myself (and a bunch from other posters), Jimmy hasnt accomplished much of anything individually either.
Apr 20, 2022 at 2:44 PM
- SinceXVI
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Meanwhile, Deebo wants to be traded because he's upset that he had to take more punishment than other elite receivers as a result of having to play RB to make up for a limited QB.
Apr 20, 2022 at 2:47 PM
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Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Meanwhile, Deebo wants to be traded because he's upset that he had to take more punishment than other elite receivers as a result of having to play RB to make up for a limited QB.
So essentially it's all Jimmy G's fault. Damn.
Apr 20, 2022 at 2:53 PM
- niners94
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Delete this man and give Deebo his money.