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Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

quit being stupid about it acting like people are making up s**t. If

"Do you see a scenario where Jimmy is in the the team next season"

Lynch: "absolutely"

You're literally... lit...er...a..lly... Calling Lynch a liar. In doing so... It's you... Who is making s**t up. You're literally..lit...er...a..lly creating a conspiracy despite DIRECT QUOTES based off emotion.

It is absolutely a scenario. Doesn't mean it is absolutely going to happen.

Yup. And that's why Trey has yet to named starter.

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Yup. And that's why Trey has yet to named starter.

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That's why Jimmy has yet to be named the starter. Derp.

The team f**king told him they're trying to move him per Jimmy! They've been trying to move him BECAUSE they think Lance is the starter. How dumb do you have to be to think otherwise?

Jimmy is gonna be the starter and Trey will be traded. I can't believe you can't see this!
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

quit being stupid about it acting like people are making up s**t. If

"Do you see a scenario where Jimmy is in the the team next season"

Lynch: "absolutely"

You're literally... lit...er...a..lly... Calling Lynch a liar. In doing so... It's you... Who is making s**t up. You're literally..lit...er...a..lly creating a conspiracy despite DIRECT QUOTES based off emotion.
That is very obtuse and naive on your part to think that. Do you know what a scenario is or have any capability of seeing passed the present?

When jimmy is healthy, he's gone. Owing him 7.5 million is the only reason he's temporarily here
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on May 14, 2022 at 7:34 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Yup. And that's why Trey has yet to named starter.

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BECAUSE they think Lance is the starter.
"But if we can't upgrade our team in another way, we're not going to just get rid of a good quarterback because we have other quarterbacks on the roster."

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.

quit being stupid about it acting like people are making up s**t. If

"Do you see a scenario where Jimmy is in the the team next season"

Lynch: "absolutely"

You're literally... lit...er...a..lly... Calling Lynch a liar. In doing so... It's you... Who is making s**t up. You're literally..lit...er...a..lly creating a conspiracy despite DIRECT QUOTES based off emotion.
That is very obtuse and naive on your part to think that. Do you know what a scenario is or have any capability of seeing passed the present?

When jimmy is healthy, he's gone. Owing him 7.5 million is the only reason he's temporarily here

So you're literally just proving exactly what I said. Calling Lynch a liar.

Thanks... I guess?
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well if you don't buy it, it's because you don't want to buy it.

But even if they AREN'T doing what every team does (which is pretend they want to keep a player they want to trade), it's still folly to compare Lance's situation to the other first round rookies because… none of them have a QB of Jimmy's quality on the roster. In other words, even if you were right (you're not, of course), and the 49ers really WANT to keep Jimmy and make the two compete, it's not an indictment on Lance. It's because Jimmy is a legitimate, quality NFL starter.

And lastly, there's a third reason the 49ers might be playing this game: pique. Rumors a couple months ago were that they were PISSED that Jimmy waited to get the surgery, and saw it as either an attempt at revenge or a selfish move that hurts the team. Consider that Jimmy has taken all the power away from the 49ers in this matter: they can't cut him or they owe him over 7 million; they can't trade him because no one wants to give up draft capital for an injured QB.

They are stuck with him for the time being, and a dangerous precedent has now been set where players can wrestle away power.

So, do not be surprised if the 49ers keep Jimmy as long as possible, knowing he won't be able to compete in camp (conveniently giving Lance time to solidify his push to start), and relegate Jimmy to a back up role or a week three pre-season cut.

I don't buy it because it's not rocket science. If you and I can figure it out a professional GM can as well.
Just like teams figured out Seattle was full of it when they said they had no intention of trading Wilson. And yet, Seattle stuck by that narrative.

What you're missing here is that in the ultra-competitive NFL, even a sliver of doubt has value to teams.

I don't think it's an indictment on Lance, I think it's BPA. Keeping Jimmy is a safety net incase Trey a 22 year old isnt ready or gets injured after a single game again. They have paraphrased this. I agree having a "quality QB" is not a bad thing. Again just like the FO has said.

Jimmy is playing the game just like they do. A dangerous precedent? It's called a contract obligation.

And I won't be surprised if they keep Jimmy. I won't be surprised if that trade him. Again they have been pretty blatant, like extremely common sense blatant about their intentions. Get something out of Jimmy or keep him. As I've said, if Trey goes down we are still contenders with Jimmy. I know that bugs the BOTB fans that would rather lose with Sudfield than win with Jimmy but it's true. Or if another QB goes down, a healthy Jimmy would be perfect for trade. There's no rush.
The the former depends on saying the latter, ever if only marginally so, and even a marginal, nearly imperceptible advantage is valued in the ultra-competitive NFL.

toss in Mike Vrabel…as long as I'm the HC we're not moving AJ. I'm pretty sure he's still the HC lol. s**t wasn't Lynch saying Bucker was gonna be a 49er for a long time. Oops.
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
So you're literally just proving exactly what I said. Calling Lynch a liar.

Thanks... I guess?

I mean he did say Bucker was gonna be here for a long time, no?

Lynch said they were trying to move Jimmy, so no he's not lying overall. Can you say something to increase the likelihood someone gets moved? Sure.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
So you're literally just proving exactly what I said. Calling Lynch a liar.

Thanks... I guess?

I mean he did say Bucker was gonna be here for a long time, no?

Lynch said they were trying to move Jimmy, so no he's not lying overall. Can you say something to increase the likelihood someone gets moved? Sure.

I think they meant that at the time then 6 months later they realized he was too expensive. Unlike you, I don't think they were lying, I genuinely think they wanted to keep Buck as they've said multiple times yet salary didn't work like it will with Jimmy.
[ Edited by RackofRibs49 on May 14, 2022 at 8:05 AM ]
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
So you're literally just proving exactly what I said. Calling Lynch a liar.

Thanks... I guess?

I mean he did say Bucker was gonna be here for a long time, no?

Lynch said they were trying to move Jimmy, so no he's not lying overall. Can you say something to increase the likelihood someone gets moved? Sure.

I think they meant that at the time then 6 months later they realized he was too expensive. Unlike you, I don't think they were lying, I genuinely think they wanted to keep Buck as they've said multiple times yet salary didn't work like it will with Jimmy.

I don't think that they believed then that Bucko The Superstar was too expensive, the Brick AFTER Brick Brothers just felt that Armstead was the better of the TWO...

What can we all do, they just see talent differently..
Originally posted by JustinMT:

s**t this chick deserves more of that 7.5M than Jimmy does. She's Funny.
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by JustinMT:

s**t this chick deserves more of that 7.5M than Jimmy does. She's Funny.

He looks like he belongs in Game Of Thrones
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by JustinMT:

s**t this chick deserves more of that 7.5M than Jimmy does. She's Funny.

He looks like he belongs in Game Of Thrones

Cruella Stark?
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
So you're literally just proving exactly what I said. Calling Lynch a liar.

Thanks... I guess?

I mean he did say Bucker was gonna be here for a long time, no?

Lynch said they were trying to move Jimmy, so no he's not lying overall. Can you say something to increase the likelihood someone gets moved? Sure.

I think they meant that at the time then 6 months later they realized he was too expensive. Unlike you, I don't think they were lying, I genuinely think they wanted to keep Buck as they've said multiple times yet salary didn't work like it will with Jimmy.

Key word is they WANTED to keep Buckner for a long time. They realized they COULDN'T keep Buckner. Why? Because it was a business decision and not an emotional decision.

It is not a good business decision to pay a backup $26 million dollars. Jimmy isn't going to accept a pay cut. The best decision would be to trade or cut him as soon as he is healthy. It wouldn't be in Jimmy's best interest to prolong this anymore than he has to. It would be best for him and the organization to cut ties before August. We would have the much needed cap space to improve this team and Jimmy would have enough time to push for a starting job somewhere else.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on May 14, 2022 at 8:43 AM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by RackofRibs49:
So you're literally just proving exactly what I said. Calling Lynch a liar.

Thanks... I guess?

I mean he did say Bucker was gonna be here for a long time, no?

Lynch said they were trying to move Jimmy, so no he's not lying overall. Can you say something to increase the likelihood someone gets moved? Sure.

I think they meant that at the time then 6 months later they realized he was too expensive. Unlike you, I don't think they were lying, I genuinely think they wanted to keep Buck as they've said multiple times yet salary didn't work like it will with Jimmy.

Key word is they WANTED to keep Buckner for a long time. They realized they COULDN'T keep Buckner. Why? Because it was a business decision and not an emotional decision. It is not a good business decision to pay a backup $26 million dollars.

Jimmy isn't going to accept a pay cut. The best decision would be to trade or cut him as soon as he is healthy. It wouldn't be in Jimmy's best interest to prolong this anymore than he has to. It would be best for him and the organization to cut ties before August. We would have the much needed cap space to improve this team and Jimmy would have enough time to push for a starting job somewhere else.

26 million dollars is worth it to Jimmy. As far as salary that money is going towards future contracts in Deebo and Bosa. Those two alone may cost 55+ mill so it's not like we can go out and just needlessly spend. It's not like that money just randomly is free'd up because Jimmy is gone. That money is tied up.
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