Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Despite the very weird off-season, Jimmy has been playing really good football, the Broncos game was easily his worse. but he's in a no win position with most fans on this forum and it's a damn shame, good thing they only represent the vocal minority of the fanbase

This last game wasn't good football. I don't see a QB out there that has command of this offense. Well....in Miami I do,...but not here.

We were fortunate enough to win another one on the backs of the defense.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
The cult is fired up. It took you 3 hrs. You can do better.

Cult = 49er Fans

Just me but I find when you refer to ppl without your opinion as a 'delusional cult'.. you eliminate any possibility for good debate / discussion.

So does complaining about posters in 90% of one's posts when you could better focus on comments or the game.

There's really no need for fan contests here. I mean it really does nothing to add to the thread...yet there is a cult-like following to force others to adapt or perish after every win.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Brandon Aiyuk *has to* catch this ball from Jimmy Garoppolo on third down in the red zone.

That being said, what a route from 11. He's turning into a technician at the receiver spot and legitimately their No. 1 threat in these "go-to" passing situations. pic.twitter.com/I91NF48m8H

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) November 14, 2022

reasoning about the throw being behind Brandon is validated even more; protecting the receiver. great ball placement.

this is what the telecast didn't show in the replay

What I find most interesting is posters INSISTANCE that it was a great throw. Both players could've done better. Aiyuk's not totally to blame for not getting that one,...but it is expected of him. He caught a bad ball behind him to pretty much end the game as well on the CMac score.

On "protection".....I see it as a farce and I'll Illustrate such from the same video you're posting....



His momentum is having him run to the right. It's not easy to reach back and make every grab.

"Protecting" him would be to keep the ball away from the red arrow,...but that wasn't necessary!!

Mind you,...the telecast is also not catching the way Aiyuk's contorting his body to slow down and reach back, but his legs in this still here does.

Even then with the effort to reach back,...Just a couple feet forward (see the green) and it's a catch,...and it's NOT risking the WR or not protecting him, as the image clearly shows. Even if he was trying to protecting him (which I doubt, just knowing Jimmy), that doesn't suddenly make the ball more catchable from Aiyuk's perspective.

Risking him would be a couple yards forward (again,...red), not feet (green). But I know,...football is a game of inches.

It's just a throw that could've been caught better by Aiyuk (because he's just that good) and could've by chance been thrown better by Jimmy. He had a # of errant ones even on little pressure that night.

Lmao

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Brandon Aiyuk *has to* catch this ball from Jimmy Garoppolo on third down in the red zone.

That being said, what a route from 11. He's turning into a technician at the receiver spot and legitimately their No. 1 threat in these "go-to" passing situations. pic.twitter.com/I91NF48m8H

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) November 14, 2022

reasoning about the throw being behind Brandon is validated even more; protecting the receiver. great ball placement.

this is what the telecast didn't show in the replay

What I find most interesting is posters INSISTANCE that it was a great throw. Both players could've done better. Aiyuk's not totally to blame for not getting that one,...but it is expected of him. He caught a bad ball behind him to pretty much end the game as well on the CMac score.

On "protection".....I see it as a farce and I'll Illustrate such from the same video you're posting....



His momentum is having him run to the right. It's not easy to reach back and make every grab.

"Protecting" him would be to keep the ball away from the red arrow,...but that wasn't necessary!!

Mind you,...the telecast is also not catching the way Aiyuk's contorting his body to slow down and reach back, but his legs in this still here does.

Even then with the effort to reach back,...Just a couple feet forward (see the green) and it's a catch,...and it's NOT risking the WR or not protecting him, as the image clearly shows. Even if he was trying to protecting him (which I doubt, just knowing Jimmy), that doesn't suddenly make the ball more catchable from Aiyuk's perspective.

Risking him would be a couple yards forward (again,...red), not feet (green). But I know,...football is a game of inches.

It's just a throw that could've been caught better by Aiyuk (because he's just that good) and could've by chance been thrown better by Jimmy. He had a # of errant ones even on little pressure that night.

A throw behind aka hitting AB in the upper shoulder area, a better perfect placement would be slightly in front of AB and closer to his mid section as he bends downward to sit and score a easy TD on a very good route by AB.

Aka it (every play) ALWAYS come down to execution, none of which is KS's fault which the miserable malcontents always like to complain about even after a competitive team win, the right call was made for an easy TD regardless.

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Brandon Aiyuk *has to* catch this ball from Jimmy Garoppolo on third down in the red zone.

That being said, what a route from 11. He's turning into a technician at the receiver spot and legitimately their No. 1 threat in these "go-to" passing situations. pic.twitter.com/I91NF48m8H

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) November 14, 2022

reasoning about the throw being behind Brandon is validated even more; protecting the receiver. great ball placement.

this is what the telecast didn't show in the replay

What I find most interesting is posters INSISTANCE that it was a great throw. Both players could've done better. Aiyuk's not totally to blame for not getting that one,...but it is expected of him. He caught a bad ball behind him to pretty much end the game as well on the CMac score.

On "protection".....I see it as a farce and I'll Illustrate such from the same video you're posting....



His momentum is having him run to the right. It's not easy to reach back and make every grab.

"Protecting" him would be to keep the ball away from the red arrow,...but that wasn't necessary!!

Mind you,...the telecast is also not catching the way Aiyuk's contorting his body to slow down and reach back, but his legs in this still here does.

Even then with the effort to reach back,...Just a couple feet forward (see the green) and it's a catch,...and it's NOT risking the WR or not protecting him, as the image clearly shows. Even if he was trying to protecting him (which I doubt, just knowing Jimmy), that doesn't suddenly make the ball more catchable from Aiyuk's perspective.

Risking him would be a couple yards forward (again,...red), not feet (green). But I know,...football is a game of inches.

It's just a throw that could've been caught better by Aiyuk (because he's just that good) and could've by chance been thrown better by Jimmy. He had a # of errant ones even on little pressure that night.

A throw behind aka hitting AB in the upper shoulder area, a better perfect placement would be slightly in front of AB and closer to his mid section as he bends downward to sit and score a easy TD on a very good route by AB.

Aka it (every play) ALWAYS come down to execution, none of which is KS's fault which the miserable malcontents always like to complain about even after a competitive team win, the right call was made for an easy TD regardless.

Sexy route, ball placement not great but good enough for Aiyuk to make a play, Aiyuk should've still caught it.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Hawaii49er:
Jimmy played lights out yesterday. On that play, the webzone was all thinking, oh no. Lol

Lights out? His play was wholly disappointing given the game last week. We don't survive games like these without the defense allowing things like 50 2nd half yards.

The play level of the offense was a step backwards.

Disagree. A win is a win. Was Jimmy perfect? Nope. Was he good enough? Yep. Are the 49ers 5-4? Yes they are. That's all that matters.

Rarely does any QB play a perfect game. If you think Jimmy is a flop because his passes sometimes sail, or he misses a wide open receiver, there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. You're convinced that Jimmy is a flop. You're convinced that any QB that doesn't hit 100-percent of his passes is a flop. You have set a very high bar for QB play.

Now, to address your concerns, can Jimmy play better? Yes, he can. Will he improve? Can he improve? I certainly hope so. I hope the entire offense can improve. I hope that Elijah and CMC can run for ten yards rather than eight. I hope that Aiyuk doesn't fumble after the catch. Same with Kittle. Same with all other receivers.

Jimmy Garropolo has the potential to take this team to, and win, the Super Bowl. Will he? I sure hope so. But then you have another problem.

what's the other problem?

Do you give Jimmy a new contract or let a Super Bowl winning QB walk in free agency.

Gotcha. good problem to have.

No answer?

Wonder what Lombardi would opine.

Let him go and sign Tom Brady. Lance can sit for one more year if Brady is the option.

Otherwise, roll with Lance. Unless Jimmy wants backup money again, then maybe I consider it. That way we can keep running with Lance.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Despite the very weird off-season, Jimmy has been playing really good football, the Broncos game was easily his worse. but he's in a no win position with most fans on this forum and it's a damn shame, good thing they only represent the vocal minority of the fanbase

This last game wasn't good football. I don't see a QB out there that has command of this offense. Well....in Miami I do,...but not here.

We were fortunate enough to win another one on the backs of the defense.

Jimmy made a few key third down passes. He was a contributor.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Brandon Aiyuk *has to* catch this ball from Jimmy Garoppolo on third down in the red zone.

That being said, what a route from 11. He's turning into a technician at the receiver spot and legitimately their No. 1 threat in these "go-to" passing situations. pic.twitter.com/I91NF48m8H

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) November 14, 2022

reasoning about the throw being behind Brandon is validated even more; protecting the receiver. great ball placement.

this is what the telecast didn't show in the replay

What I find most interesting is posters INSISTANCE that it was a great throw. Both players could've done better. Aiyuk's not totally to blame for not getting that one,...but it is expected of him. He caught a bad ball behind him to pretty much end the game as well on the CMac score.

On "protection".....I see it as a farce and I'll Illustrate such from the same video you're posting....



His momentum is having him run to the right. It's not easy to reach back and make every grab.

"Protecting" him would be to keep the ball away from the red arrow,...but that wasn't necessary!!

Mind you,...the telecast is also not catching the way Aiyuk's contorting his body to slow down and reach back, but his legs in this still here does.

Even then with the effort to reach back,...Just a couple feet forward (see the green) and it's a catch,...and it's NOT risking the WR or not protecting him, as the image clearly shows. Even if he was trying to protecting him (which I doubt, just knowing Jimmy), that doesn't suddenly make the ball more catchable from Aiyuk's perspective.

Risking him would be a couple yards forward (again,...red), not feet (green). But I know,...football is a game of inches.

It's just a throw that could've been caught better by Aiyuk (because he's just that good) and could've by chance been thrown better by Jimmy. He had a # of errant ones even on little pressure that night.

The ball was not perfect. Anyone saying it is is a fanboi. But neither was it terrible. He was obviously attempting to protect Aiyuk, and it was off by a couple of feet, but clearly within the safe window. You want to err on the side of low and to the left (how's it hanging, by the way?). So, it could have been a better pass. But it also could have been caught. It was a passing grade.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Despite the very weird off-season, Jimmy has been playing really good football, the Broncos game was easily his worse. but he's in a no win position with most fans on this forum and it's a damn shame, good thing they only represent the vocal minority of the fanbase

This last game wasn't good football. I don't see a QB out there that has command of this offense. Well....in Miami I do,...but not here.

We were fortunate enough to win another one on the backs of the defense.

Jimmy made a few key third down passes. He was a contributor.

jimmy hasnt been the problem lately but lazy posters want to blame him. our receivers should never have to go out of their way to catch any passes like everyone else receivers do. Jimmy has been playing very well lately. Aiyuk dropped a TD and fumbled. Jimmy made some clutch throws last night. the unscriped sideline pass to ray ray was awesome. plays like that just confirm most of our suspicions that Kyle is holding him back, he can make those throws

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
jimmy hasnt been the problem lately but lazy posters want to blame him. our receivers should never have to go out of their way to catch any passes like everyone else receivers do. Jimmy has been playing very well lately. Aiyuk dropped a TD and fumbled. Jimmy made some clutch throws last night. the unscriped sideline pass to ray ray was awesome. plays like that just confirm most of our suspicions that Kyle is holding him back, he can make those throws

KS sure held back when Jimmy makes bonehead plays that cost the team a chance to win games and big games at that like the SB and NFCC (or even vs DENVER, ATL and KC this season) as QB1.. there is a reason no other team wanted Jimmy and he took a huge pay cut to come back as the backup to Trey. The NFL is basically a bunch of mercenaries for hire, and Jimmy is just a good game manager at best with all his limitations and shortcomings, he's no elite probowl Sniper that's for sure and NEVER will be even if Bill Walsh was resurrected and calling plays for Jimmy, it wouldn't make ANY difference 🤣

(Too bad there isn't a unlimited ignore list on this forum for these ridiculous malcontents..)
https://youtu.be/XJCW_mj-DYU

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Despite the very weird off-season, Jimmy has been playing really good football, the Broncos game was easily his worse. but he's in a no win position with most fans on this forum and it's a damn shame, good thing they only represent the vocal minority of the fanbase

This last game wasn't good football. I don't see a QB out there that has command of this offense. Well....in Miami I do,...but not here.

We were fortunate enough to win another one on the backs of the defense.

Jimmy made a few key third down passes. He was a contributor.

jimmy hasnt been the problem lately but lazy posters want to blame him. our receivers should never have to go out of their way to catch any passes like everyone else receivers do. Jimmy has been playing very well lately. Aiyuk dropped a TD and fumbled. Jimmy made some clutch throws last night. the unscriped sideline pass to ray ray was awesome. plays like that just confirm most of our suspicions that Kyle is holding him back, he can make those throws

The "lazy posters" as you put them are so set in their mind that they will always try to find something to reinforce their beliefs. Jimmy can go 21-25 as he did against the Rams, one of the most efficient days in the organization's history, and they can't help themselves and have to mention 2 "almost picks".

The thing is I think I see a correlation between their mindset and the mindset of some in the Justin Fields thread on NFL Talk. And yes, I'm an Ohio State fan who preferred Fields and want to see him have success. But now that he is, some are downplaying it and I don't think, as at least one or two others have indicated, it's even necessarily because they believe what they're even saying. Fields is starting to succeed and our pick is on the bench and on IR rehabbing a broken ankle.

I don't think it's even about how "bad" or "limited" Jimmy is. I'm sure the injuries have frustrated and some inconvenient picks or fumbles have even almost enraged. But I think it's still "We could have had Mahomes". So too could have eight other teams. Some of those still got good players (Cleveland, Jets, Chargers, Panthers) and still others now have QB's they hope will be good or are good (Chicago, Jacksonville, Chargers, Bengals). But then again, pretty much any of them would probably redo that pick for Mahomes.

Thing is, it's hard to say Mahomes would be quite the same Mahomes here. He'd still do some of the same things, but Kyle is probably always going to be a run first coach and a bit conservative. "But Atlanta! But Matt Ryan!" I think Jonny and maybe someone else or maybe just Jonny has referenced and even provided quotes that show that Kyle the head coach isn't the same play caller nor does he have the exact same mindset as he did in Atlanta and Houston- by his own admission.

I mean, I'd take Mahomes too. Jimmy is having arguably the best season of his career and it certainly isn't flashy. But it's doable and relatively effective. I know even as I type that it doesn't excite me either. But if it's something even a bit better than 2019 it just might take us where we want to be.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Brandon Aiyuk *has to* catch this ball from Jimmy Garoppolo on third down in the red zone.

That being said, what a route from 11. He's turning into a technician at the receiver spot and legitimately their No. 1 threat in these "go-to" passing situations. pic.twitter.com/I91NF48m8H

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) November 14, 2022

reasoning about the throw being behind Brandon is validated even more; protecting the receiver. great ball placement.

this is what the telecast didn't show in the replay

Agreed, good placement from jimmy on that one, aiyuk gotta do better

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Agreed, good placement from jimmy on that one, aiyuk gotta do better

Not a probowl pass, NOPE. And AB isn't quite probowl staus yet, he could be with a better QB1 though that's FOR SURE 🤣 too bad Trey got injured early this season..
https://youtu.be/XJCW_mj-DYU

Aiyuk got a good amount of heat for the miss behind him, but here is the other ball behind him I referenced.



I dont think fans understand just how fantastic of a WR this guy is. No one really brings it up because he made the play!
All the focus is on the miss but these grabs are only routine while home, with a remote in your hand, and on the sofa.


I mean,...how?
How he grabs that and doesn't instantly fall down but somehow continues on to the 2 yard line is beyond my grasp.

And the things the CMac can do is beyond my grasp. And Kittle. And Deebo. Just, a number of guys that can take nothing and make it into something.

But I mean hey, based on the last several pages, this play is obviously going under the "beat the blitz", "great 3rd down throw" category and they will just continue on. Much we read here is a bunch of fans seeing what they want.