Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Can you read the last two sentences of my post?

Doesn't matter, Brees (a proven QB and HOF) shouldn't even be in the same sentence as Jimmy who is a backup QB right now whom no other team even wanted to trade a 2nd rd pick for, even if Jimmy wins the SB at the end of this season, is he better than a Nick Foles who has 1 probowl and was SB MVP? Probably not, and that's if he wins the SB at the end of the season and is SB MVP, think on that one for a second..

Good post.

Sorry, i meant really good post.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye ????

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous ????
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues ????

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I just figured if I'm going to bring up CAY/A having a slight positive correlation with winning, and INTs/game having a less than expected correlation with losing, that I ought to point out that TD% is one of the best indicators of winning quarterback play. And Jimmy through his career has usually done pretty good.

i mean TD% is obviously important but as a stat its kind of misleading what about if we run it in? that doesn't really come up as TD% but obviously TD% will correlate higher to winning because higher TD% = more points

what i look at is how the offense function
yards/play
points/drive

to me those two are the most important stats into how the QB and offense is functioning

One problem is that both of them are less dependent on the QB than TD%.

I'm too lazy right now to look at the correlation with win% with the two stats you mentioned, but two things are more important than TD% and are highly dependent on QB play: passes for first downs (1D%), and passes for first down on third down (3D%). And before you even ask, Jimmy usually does outstanding at both. Last year he was top 10 in both.

Moving the chains is, among all the things I've personally looked at statistically, the biggest indicator of whether or not a QB wins. My guess would be that red zone passing is way up there too, but those numbers aren't easily accessible so I don't bother with it.

But if you're wondering why Jimmy "just wins," a huge part of it is 1D% and 3D%.

Case in point:
https://www.ninersnation.com/platform/amp/2022/11/25/23476548/49ers-jimmy-garoppolo-third-downs

When the 49ers are winning, it's usually because Jimmy is magic on third down.

Jimmy is majic on 3rd downs......

It seems like you didn't understand the sentence. WHEN the 49ers are winning, it's generally because Jimmy is doing very well on third down.

Nope, I understand what magic means.

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

Man towards the end of his career, he was looking pretty bad with those concussion issues, I actually feel bad for Steve, good thing he retired instead of trying to milk more money from another NFL team.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

He's a moron, never liked him as an analyst.

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

Man towards the end of his career, he was looking pretty bad with those concussion issues, I actually feel bad for Steve, good thing he retired instead of trying to milk more money from another NFL team.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

He's a moron, never liked him as an analyst.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

He's a moron, never liked him as an analyst.

Literally one of the smarter Americans. Dude could practice law if he wanted. You have to follow the nuances of what he says.

And if he's "scattered" in his comments about Jimmy, maybe that's because Jimmy's play itself is fairly scattered?

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ChillninDaBay:

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Dude the conversation is obviously soaring above your head. I hate the ignore feature because it makes conversations completely disjointed, but your idiotic posts are doing more harm in this instance. Take care.

Even if Jimmy wins a SB at the end of this season with this stacked team, Jimmy is still limited Jimmy and nothing more. He only had 2 games in his career so far with 4tds and no int which included the game vs AZ last Monday with still less than 300 yds with ALL the YAC says all.

BTW I was going to do the same to you when you said unreal when facts are real but my ignore list is full, so go ahead and put my posts on ignore so we don't have to respond to each other anymore, bye bye 🤣

Come on!
Give him 40 million, 10 year fully guaranteed and the yellow coat.

Just stop.

Steve young is ridiculous 🤣
He 110% needs a MRI to check for CTE issues 🤣

I love Steve Young. Not about JG but he does seem alittle scattered in his opinions.

He isn't scattered. He is just recognizing that Brian Griese appears to have connected with JG in such a way that Young now believes Garoppolo can be the long-term solution. That is a change in position from where he was four weeks ago when the Griese impact was not as clear as it appears to be now.