Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Athletic profile QB fans: "Everything would have to be perfect for Jimmy Garoppolo and Mac Jones to win a Superbowl."

Question: What happened when one thing wasn't perfect for Patrick Mahomes in the Superbowl last year, unlike the year before when it was.

Same fans: "Yeah but he tried really hard. It wasn't his fault they lost."

Don't embarrass yourself like this. He had a PRACTICE SQUAD offensive line. "One thing going wrong" would be the top WR being schemed out by the defense. A practice squad Oline is a full on nuclear power plant melt down.

Hilarious. Mike Person, Ben Garland and the worst graded pass protection G in football in Laken Tomlinson.

Yet, the POINT is, one key piece wasn't perfect, and a "mobile QB" couldn't transcend that despite every other aspect of the team being better or the same from the previous Superbowl team.

So that argument needs to be thrown out for both QB's...hence why football is still a team game.

You can tell you're wrong but the fact that Mahomes experienced an NFL record number of pressures in that Super Bowl. But don't let observable reality get in the way of your argument.

But you're right. Mobile QBs can't transcend every problem. They just add an extra way to attack, and a slightly better chance of escaping an unwinnable play.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Athletic profile QB fans: "Everything would have to be perfect for Jimmy Garoppolo and Mac Jones to win a Superbowl."

Question: What happened when one thing wasn't perfect for Patrick Mahomes in the Superbowl last year, unlike the year before when it was.

Same fans: "Yeah but he tried really hard. It wasn't his fault they lost."

Don't embarrass yourself like this. He had a PRACTICE SQUAD offensive line. "One thing going wrong" would be the top WR being schemed out by the defense. A practice squad Oline is a full on nuclear power plant melt down.

Hilarious. Mike Person, Ben Garland and the worst graded pass protection G in football in Laken Tomlinson.

Yet, the POINT is, one key piece wasn't perfect, and a "mobile QB" couldn't transcend that despite every other aspect of the team being better or the same from the previous Superbowl team.

So that argument needs to be thrown out for both QB's...hence why football is still a team game.

But he did transcend that "one key piece" letting him down. It wasn't just the o-line, his receivers dropped multiple would-be TD passes on perfectly placed balls (all 3 were catches a child could make). He couldn't transcend being let down by everyone else on the offense.

Mahomes with another freakish escape + throw.

pic.twitter.com/R2lVakI4Qq

— John Ellis (@OnePantherPlace) February 8, 2021

ISSO SERIA SURREAL. #SuperBowl #NFLBrasil pic.twitter.com/nAEhyz7vHt

— NFL Brasil (@NFLBrasil) February 8, 2021

That was an ABSURD throw by Patrick Mahomes.

It hit Darrel Williams in the face.

That kind of night for the #Chiefs. #SuperBowl pic.twitter.com/SOtwi28hdL

— Billy Heyen (@BillyHeyen) February 8, 2021

To equate Jimmy's pure crappiness in the 4th quarter with Mahomes' literal heroics is criminal. Just because Jimmy's o-line wasn't great in that game doesn't mean the two situations were remotely the same.

And if you're drafting a QB in 2021, he better be able to make plays like the above or he's not worth the pick.

Yeah. It's straight up dumb to equate those too. Dumb. With zero qualifications or reservations.

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
If you take away Mahomes' mobility and his ability to do a 12 step drop on the Wasp play (or give him Mac Jones' arm strength) he loses the SB against the Niners as well.

If we are entering into the realm of fanciful guess and what ifs....

Lol sure why not go for broke, only Mahomes could beat the 49ers lol.

Do you think Tom Brady on the Chiefs, with those weapons could not beat the 49ers? Seriously?

Ill be 100% straight with you, expecting any of current mobile prospects to be Mahomes is as absurd as expecting Jones to be Tom Brady.

The fact we are using Mahomes as an example of WHY to draft a scrambler, IS ACTUALLY worse then using Brady as an example as to why to draft Jones. At least the NFL has a massive history of functional pocket QBs.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Amazing that we feel the need to talk about our suspect offensive line in Mac Jones thread. Thank you for confirming the obvious.

Eh I said last year that I pray the 49ers draft a Tackle before they draft a QB. Nothing is worse then putting young QBs behind porous lines

If this thread gets to 800 pages by Draft day, the 49ers are definitely Mac Jones.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If this thread gets to 800 pages by Draft day, the 49ers are definitely Mac Jones.

Is that your way to keep NY out of here?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Like the 2018 NFL draft. I bet the Jets wish they went with the vastly more talented QB in Josh Allen at pick 3.

Lol Josh Allen to NYJ would have ended disastrously. Even worse than Darnold IMO

BS IMO

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Is that your way to keep NY out of here?

Originally posted by Dshearn:
If we are entering into the realm of fanciful guess and what ifs....

Lol sure why not go for broke, only Mahomes could beat the 49ers lol.

Do you think Tom Brady on the Chiefs, with those weapons could not beat the 49ers? Seriously?

Ill be 100% straight with you, expecting any of current mobile prospects to be Mahomes is as absurd as expecting Jones to be Tom Brady.

The fact we are using Mahomes as an example of WHY to draft a scrambler, IS ACTUALLY worse then using Brady as an example as to why to draft Jones. At least the NFL has a massive history of functional pocket QBs.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If this thread gets to 800 pages by Draft day, the 49ers are definitely Mac Jones.

Is that your way to keep NY out of here?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If this thread gets to 800 pages by Draft day, the 49ers are definitely Mac Jones.

This is rigged! His thread was already very active because we assumed he would be the only an around at our original pick #12. We need to measure the posts from each qb's thread once the trade went public lol

Originally posted by random49er:
BS IMO

Not BS. Allen was extremely raw and needed a ton of work and he received good coaching and stability with the Bills. He also had a quality defense backing him up when he did make mistakes.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
What's even funnier is Rapp's b******t on SF picking Jones was just that b******t...he doesn't know. Sliver just pointed out a lot of people think it's actually Fields.

Also why would Kyle tell Rap he loves Jones a month before the draft (unless he's just blown smoke)? That's not how this team operates.

The audio in that podcast was simply a "yes" regarding considering him. Yes,...He's considering Trask too,...if asked,...I'm sure.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by random49er:
BS IMO

Not BS. Allen was extremely raw and needed a ton of work and he received good coaching and stability with the Bills. He also had a quality defense backing him up when he did make mistakes.

Certainly BS. Please don't skip over the poster giving us the 100% guarantee "would have."

Swinging a guy from up and coming phenom to a complete bust due to location is nothing more than made up hyperbole.

We currently have zero cases where some have gotten in a time machine, went Back 2 The Future, changed it, and showed us these results.

Until Doc gets us a real one, it's a wasted exaggeration that can never go anywhere.

btw,...we just traded away the farm simply to get in a position for a highly talented rook. That tells me if they didn't get it before (Player >>>> "good" coaching and stability hyperbole)

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by flynhayn15:
If you take away Mahomes' mobility and his ability to do a 12 step drop on the Wasp play (or give him Mac Jones' arm strength) he loses the SB against the Niners as well.

If we are entering into the realm of fanciful guess and what ifs....

Lol sure why not go for broke, only Mahomes could beat the 49ers lol.

Do you think Tom Brady on the Chiefs, with those weapons could not beat the 49ers? Seriously?

Ill be 100% straight with you, expecting any of current mobile prospects to be Mahomes is as absurd as expecting Jones to be Tom Brady.

The fact we are using Mahomes as an example of WHY to draft a scrambler, IS ACTUALLY worse then using Brady as an example as to why to draft Jones. At least the NFL has a massive history of functional pocket QBs.

A massive history of functional pocket QBs and only one as good as Brady. Yet, QBs with the athletic traits of Mahomes, Fields, Lamar, and Allen don't come around very often.