Originally posted by 1swift:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by leonbanton:
Almost made it to 10,000!
I don't classify myself as a hater, but I see a lot of comments confused about the emotional reaction to Mac Jones. I know he would have been a little more accepted if we took him at 12. But to give up what we did to move up to take what people are calling "a great processor" is gonna fan some flames.
I would take the best non quarterback on the board to help the team this year, and classify as an all pro before I can accept Mac Jones. Don't hate em'. Not a good use of resources.
It's really all about philosophy like Cossell said, whether you're inside NFL circles, coaches, personnel or fans.
Mac - elite accuracy, intelligence, processing and leadership. Physically, average and below average off schedule ability. Sarkisian threw everything but the kitchen sink at Jones in the Crimson Tide offense and gave him more freedom than any QB he's ever had. The end results spoke for themselves
Fields/Lance - elite top athletic profiles, mobility to escape and create off schedule throws but run as a last resort, excellent for a move offense, eye popping 40's, big arms, untapped ceiling and diversity. Very very bright.
Mac's college experience is further proof all 3 should sit for a year. All have unique elite skill sets. Kyle will get the max from each.
Can't wait for 2022.
Thats the thing. You're stating Mac has elite accuracy, intelligence, processing, and leadership but failing to mention those attributes to Fields/Lance etc. Nothing says either of those guys are not smart or great leaders etc. Fields, at least, has shown to be consistently accurate as well. And Processing is debatable as well. Even you think Mac is better in all these qualities (I don't) I think each is up for debate if he's better and if so, how much better is he and is he better in such a way that with good coaching the other prospects could not catch up.
Whereas the qualities you've listed for Fields/Lance we know the gap is wide and Mac is never catching up no matter how much better shape he can get into and those attributes are generally not coachable.
Plain and simple he's a lesser prospect with a media machine pumping him up artificially.
This. It'd be really nice to see Jones' supposedly superior intelligence, processing speed, etc. quantified in some way. There's video of all the the top QBs making multiple reads, looking off safeties, adjusting protections, etc. They all worked with big, complex playbooks. But for some reason we're supposed to just accept that Mac Jones is light years better at this stuff than everyone else? Lololol Why?
Jones is a good player, Shanny will draft whoever he wants and I'll live with it, but I don't see the point of granting Jones superpowers that we're not actually sure he possesses.