DeMeco Ryans, Texans HC

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
This one is on both coaches. Shanahan horrible clock management at the end, and Ryans' gameplan was horrific on D.

Right. He should've worked the clock more to protect his rookie DC and horrible secondary.

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

It looked true from the TV view. All through the game, there were many downs where the 49ers just played straight up man - no tricks. Then with 30 seconds left they played the loosest zone coverage possible. So far, it seems like they are playing man coverage at a higher rate compared to Saleh's defense.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

It looked true from the TV view. All through the game, there were many downs where the 49ers just played straight up man - no tricks. Then with 30 seconds left they played the loosest zone coverage possible. So far, it seems like they are playing man coverage at a higher rate compared to Saleh's defense.

They are certainly playing more man than Saleh's defense. the biggest issue now is that we don't have the bodies to play man. And the pass rush isn't getting home enough to help out the db's. But DR has to do a better job disguising what we are doing. Right now it seems that qb's are easily reading his calls. Even Hurts was able to read man coverage and just go deep over the top of our cb's. The blitzes are way too vanilla and obvious. Everytime we blitz the blitzer runs up to the LOS well before the snap and every offensive player sees it coming. They never try a delayed blitz. They never try to time the snap and come soon as the ball in being snapped. They never blitz in the a gap. It's the same obvious blitz from the outside dam near every time.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

It looked true from the TV view. All through the game, there were many downs where the 49ers just played straight up man - no tricks. Then with 30 seconds left they played the loosest zone coverage possible. So far, it seems like they are playing man coverage at a higher rate compared to Saleh's defense.

Donte Whitner mentioned the same in the post game show. He said we weren't disguising anything. He said Rodgers was opening our mail before us. And that's true all of Rodgers 1st reads were correct 80% of the time. He knew which receiver was gonna be open. He hardly had to go through progressions which is what gives our pass rush time to get to him.

Hopefully he redeems himself against Seattle. A silver lining is that Rodgers exposed our weaknesses, and that gives this coaching staff a chance to correct it. If we had rolled the packers we would've walked into an L next week. Now we have a chance to self scout.

There's going to be some growing pains, and I still think be a successful D-coord is more about having dudes more than anything (although some will disagree).

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

This one is on both coaches. Shanahan horrible clock management at the end, and Ryans' gameplan was horrific on D.

Right. He should've worked the clock more to protect his rookie DC and horrible secondary.

We are screwed if we can't ever expect the defense to stop a te srom scoring with no TOs and less than a minute to play.

Originally posted by FL9er:
There's going to be some growing pains, and I still think be a successful D-coord is more about having dudes more than anything (although some will disagree).

Agreed. Ryans is a rookie DC and all rookies have learning to do. I think Ryans came into the season wanting to play more man coverage but after losing his best man coverage CB, he has to be open to making changes if needed.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by FL9er:
There's going to be some growing pains, and I still think be a successful D-coord is more about having dudes more than anything (although some will disagree).

Agreed. Ryans is a rookie DC and all rookies have learning to do. I think Ryans came into the season wanting to play more man coverage but after losing his best man coverage CB, he has to be open to making changes if needed.

Yup I said this would happen. Growing pains, but let's hope he puts it together fast. Saleh took a solid year and a half to understand and make in game adjustments.

Our coverage at the end of the game was terrible. Collinsworth was being mind in his commentary lol

If we don't get it together fast we will probably miss the playoffs, but I could see it taking half a season to gel.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by FL9er:
There's going to be some growing pains, and I still think be a successful D-coord is more about having dudes more than anything (although some will disagree).

Agreed. Ryans is a rookie DC and all rookies have learning to do. I think Ryans came into the season wanting to play more man coverage but after losing his best man coverage CB, he has to be open to making changes if needed.

Yup I said this would happen. Growing pains, but let's hope he puts it together fast. Saleh took a solid year and a half to understand and make in game adjustments.

Our coverage at the end of the game was terrible. Collinsworth was being mind in his commentary lol

If we don't get it together fast we will probably miss the playoffs, but I could see it taking half a season to gel.

Honestly, I was proud of the defense for most of the game. When the offense sputtered out the gate, the defense held GB to 10 points with 2 minutes left in the first half. Went into the end of the half having given up 17 points after spending a lot of time on the field. Lost two vet CBs (KWaun, Norman) and hung in there. Just brain farted in the last 30 seconds of the game playing so conservative.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
This one is on both coaches. Shanahan horrible clock management at the end, and Ryans' gameplan was horrific on D.

Right. He should've worked the clock more to protect his rookie DC and horrible secondary.

We are screwed if we can't ever expect the defense to stop a te srom scoring with no TOs and less than a minute to play.

Sadly we are screwed on the back end. The secondary is depleted of talent and the pass wasn't getting through. KS should've ran another 20 seconds off the clock. Especially versus A Rod.

You have to be really stupid to call man coverage when all the CB's drafted or picked up in FA the past four years are meant to be used in zone.

He cost us the game.

Originally posted by Koldo:
You have to be really stupid to call man coverage when all the CB's drafted or picked up in FA the past four years are meant to be used in zone.

Do you think you can run zone defense Vs Rodgers and not get picked apart?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

It looked true from the TV view. All through the game, there were many downs where the 49ers just played straight up man - no tricks. Then with 30 seconds left they played the loosest zone coverage possible. So far, it seems like they are playing man coverage at a higher rate compared to Saleh's defense.

Yeah Rogers just saw Adams and was like yup I'll take that matchup all day in man lol. One of the best WRs off the LOS and your playing straight up man with Billy Bob across from him

WTF are we doing here

Man I thought without a doubt Raheem Morris was gonna be our new DC, he's worked with Shanny in TB/DC/ATL and I remember he tried getting him back in 2017….instead we go for a first time DC and let him go to the Rams