DeMeco Ryans, Texans HC

Ryans held Aaron Rogers and the Packers to 30 points without any help from the offense. Defense seemed like they were on the field the entire game.

Ryans made this a game with Pop Warner CB's, missing a starting LB, and a DL loaded with 1st rounders that got beat up by 3rd stringers.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Ryans held Aaron Rogers and the Packers to 30 points without any help from the offense. Defense seemed like they were on the field the entire game.

Ryans made this a game with Pop Warner CB's, missing a starting LB, and a DL loaded with 1st rounders that got beat up by 3rd stringers.

Yea but how isn't he doubling or bracketing arguably the best receiver in football.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

It looked true from the TV view. All through the game, there were many downs where the 49ers just played straight up man - no tricks. Then with 30 seconds left they played the loosest zone coverage possible. So far, it seems like they are playing man coverage at a higher rate compared to Saleh's defense.

Yeah Rogers just saw Adams and was like yup I'll take that matchup all day in man lol. One of the best WRs off the LOS and your playing straight up man with Billy Bob across from him

WTF are we doing here

As far as coverages go, no DC is going to fool Rodgers. He's seen it all hundreds of times already. But I do think there's value in mixing things up and trying to disguise just so he has to think a little bit. Hindsight is 20/20 but I wonder how things may have been different if there was devoted attention to Adams (bracket coverage), to force any other Packer WR to beat them. Unless they did bracket Adams and he still got 18 targets for 12 catches.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Yea but how isn't he doubling or bracketing arguably the best receiver in football.

bruh. Just suggested bracketing Adams as you posted this. I can't tell exactly what was being done (broadcast view), but I don't think a bracketed WR gets 18 targets. The whole point of bracketing a WR is to make the QB look somewhere else.

On the last 2 throws, the Packers basically had 3 receivers running routes because they chipped both Nick Bosa and Dee Ford on each throw.

3 vs 7

Also, Jimmie Ward seemed to be out of position on the final throw. They should've called a timeout if that was the case.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Ryans held Aaron Rogers and the Packers to 30 points without any help from the offense. Defense seemed like they were on the field the entire game.

Ryans made this a game with Pop Warner CB's, missing a starting LB, and a DL loaded with 1st rounders that got beat up by 3rd stringers.

Yea but how isn't he doubling or bracketing arguably the best receiver in football.

They were in a zone defense because it would be hard to bracket one guy when all of the other guys need help too. There were 3 guys around Adams when he caught that ball, none within 5 yards.

Originally posted by Heroism:
On the last 2 throws, the Packers basically had 3 receivers running routes because they chipped both Nick Bosa and Dee Ford on each throw.

3 vs 7

Do we have the worst secondary in the league? I'm really not convinced we don't.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Ryans held Aaron Rogers and the Packers to 30 points without any help from the offense. Defense seemed like they were on the field the entire game.

Ryans made this a game with Pop Warner CB's, missing a starting LB, and a DL loaded with 1st rounders that got beat up by 3rd stringers.

Is this supposed to be some sort of achievement?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by A-R-S:
Collinsworth (hates 49ers) said 49ers D was playing straight up, old school, not disguising anything, man coverage often. Was that true? And if so, how did that differ from the way our D played the Pack in 19?

It looked true from the TV view. All through the game, there were many downs where the 49ers just played straight up man - no tricks. Then with 30 seconds left they played the loosest zone coverage possible. So far, it seems like they are playing man coverage at a higher rate compared to Saleh's defense.

Yeah Rogers just saw Adams and was like yup I'll take that matchup all day in man lol. One of the best WRs off the LOS and your playing straight up man with Billy Bob across from him

WTF are we doing here

As far as coverages go, no DC is going to fool Rodgers. He's seen it all hundreds of times already. But I do think there's value in mixing things up and trying to disguise just so he has to think a little bit. Hindsight is 20/20 but I wonder how things may have been different if there was devoted attention to Adams (bracket coverage), to force any other Packer WR to beat them. Unless they did bracket Adams and he still got 18 targets for 12 catches.

On the deep ball to MVS we were in a cover 1 robber(Ward) just from tv angle and a replay and I just remember seeing the interview where Ward was all excited about doing more stuff like that.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Do we have the worst secondary in the league? I'm really not convinced we don't.

I forgot to add that Jimmie Ward seemed to be out of position on the final throw. They should've called a timeout if that was the case.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Do you think you can run zone defense Vs Rodgers and not get picked apart?

To me, it's pick your poison. We ran, what, a Cover 2 on one of the TD's that Rodgers threw? Collinsworth pointed out that Lenoir was covering in the flat, but no one was there, so he should've trailed back when that happened. By the time he did, he was a second too late and the Packers scored a TD.

I'm of the opinion that Lenoir is doing a good job, given where we drafted him and is being thrown out there pretty early in his career. I'm hoping he grows.

Demeco Ryans is having a tough assignment in scheming around the lack of cornerback depth right now.

Originally posted by Heroism:
On the last 2 throws, the Packers basically had 3 receivers running routes because they chipped both Nick Bosa and Dee Ford on each throw.

3 vs 7

Yeah it seems like at halftime they made adjustments to try and take Bosa out of the game. Bosa was killing them in the 1st half but then was quiet in the 2nd half. It's up to the other guys on that Dline to take advantage of the special treatment Bosa is getting. It also didn't help that our run defense was horrible again and Rodgers was constantly in 2nd and short and 3rd and short situations.

Originally posted by Wubbie:
To me, it's pick your poison. We ran, what, a Cover 2 on one of the TD's that Rodgers threw? Collinsworth pointed out that Lenoir was covering in the flat, but no one was there, so he should've trailed back when that happened. By the time he did, he was a second too late and the Packers scored a TD.

I'm of the opinion that Lenoir is doing a good job, given where we drafted him and is being thrown out there pretty early in his career. I'm hoping he grows.

Demeco Ryans is having a tough assignment in scheming around the lack of cornerback depth right now.

It looked like quarters or cover 3 from the TV angle. Dontae Johnson moved into the flat. Lenoir simply didn't get enough depth and allowed the receiver to get behind him.

He'll definitely learn from that one.

Originally posted by Wubbie:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Do you think you can run zone defense Vs Rodgers and not get picked apart?

To me, it's pick your poison. We ran, what, a Cover 2 on one of the TD's that Rodgers threw? Collinsworth pointed out that Lenoir was covering in the flat, but no one was there, so he should've trailed back when that happened. By the time he did, he was a second too late and the Packers scored a TD.

I'm of the opinion that Lenoir is doing a good job, given where we drafted him and is being thrown out there pretty early in his career. I'm hoping he grows.

Demeco Ryans is having a tough assignment in scheming around the lack of cornerback depth right now.

That kinda play on the TD is similar to what happened on the 3rd and 15. A great QB is gonna make that throw a bad QB is throwing a INT to the CB fading back. Rodgers is gonna make plays it's what he does. Just can't have him targeting the same dude 18 times and not make adjustments. Like last year against the Cardinals in week 1 I swear every pass was a back shoulder to Hopkins and we never adjusted

This franchise is too quick to promote from within: Singletary, Tomsula, that string of abysmal OCs we had awhile back....

Can't fully judge Ryans yet..he's not dealing with a talented secondary, but that last drive was abysmal.