Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Brodie still thinks Jimmy is coming back 😂

And thinking not playing football for what will be damn near 3 yrs is gonna get him ready to be a FQB.

Can you think of any other position where you would think having them not play for 2 to 3 yrs would make them ready? Imagine saying Brandon Aiyuk isn't "ready" so we're not playing him for 2 yrs then magically assuming he's gonna be great after not playing football lol. Not a single person would believe that.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm hoping to see it more. We didn't see it at all with Jimmy. I don't know if it was Shanahan refusing to take a shot. The oline. Jimmy's inaccurate deep ball. A reciever who couldnt stretch the field? A combination of all of that? It was a staple of the bill walsh offense that has completely disappeared.

Just not Jimmy's game. Like I've said a lot in here….his quick release is awesome and great on those short routes. It's all about his torque/upper body not really his footwork….when you see him take those shots downfield (not always) but his footwork is real bad. He's still trying to throw with that torque/up half stuff, like his quick throws…his arm talent isn't elite enough to do that downfield, so he needs those proper mechanics to get the ball downfield accurately.

Your right about his torque - he's all upper body.

I think Trey has the elite arm to do it either way - the Jimmy Torque way or the correctly mechanical way.

Either way, I'm excited about 2022.

P.S. to NY85, Yeah, the two 2021 Seadderall season Games were lost *both* by 7 points. The first one 28-21, the next one 30-23. The first seadderall game when Trey played one half, 49ers lost by 7. The second game when Jimmy played 100% they lost by 7. That is another Data Point that points to Trey's rediness and ability. The fact that Trey played one half when he was a stone cold rookie coming into his first *real* regular season game ever in his rookie career and played to the equivalent of Jimmy - if you consider the same margin of loss in both games.

Lol now do QB's in 49ers history the last 10 years who only scored 10 points like Trey. Jimmy did it once his entire career and won, Trey in 2.5 games has done it too.

Sure now do how many of them are 21 year old rookies who had 1 start in like 2 years before that particular game.

I was just pointing out how terrible your argument is. You said he played to the equivalent of Jimmy yet only scored 10 points. Our worst scoring in YEARS... So to counter using your own logic he's basically "the equivalent" of Beathard.

1. Not my argument

2. Comparing a rookie with very little experience and youth to a seasoned 8 year vet should be graded on a curve if you're doing it anyways.

The offense was very different in both games, partially cuz of the change in QB but also due to players available. Lance had no Kittle who impacts the game in many ways. Lance also had Mitchell who was playing hurt and on an obvious pitch count. The game was also on the road vs an Arizona team that had a healthy JJ Watt. We moved the ball very well for the most part. Failures on 3rd and then 4th down led to the low score. Blindly looking at the score doesn't quite cut it when making an evaluation of how each guy played.

Then again based on your posts I'm not expecting a proper evaluation from you. Just trolling.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Lance would easily have been the 1st overall pick in this draft. So many QB needy teams, and an otherwise crap QB class this year.

That's an opinion many have. However, I believe he would've fallen off hard with more exposure.
I think he is one of the most fortunate athletes in the last few years he didn't have a season to play in 20.
This guy was the 3rd overall pick after starting two years his whole life at qb in his life.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
That's an opinion many have. However, I believe he would've fallen off hard with more exposure.
I think he is one of the most fortunate athletes in the last few years he didn't have a season to play in 20.
This guy was the 3rd overall pick after starting two years his whole life at qb in his life.

I think Jimmy has been one of the most fortunate athletes in the last few years. Benefits of a great defense of the gate running game and a great offensive play caller. The Niners are actually taking a hit right now because of how bad he is they're not getting great offers. I don't know how many people on this board actually think he's a good quarterback but if he was that good we would've already heard about offers being made

He's not ready as of right now. Everyone knows it. Even Joe Montana.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not ready as of right now. Everyone knows it. Even Joe Montana.

Is that sarcasm? Has Joe Montana ever been heard of going to practice? Has it been reported he has shown up to practice in the last year? Because he must know exactly what Trey is doing in practice to make that statement correct. Because what does being ready even mean. Does it mean 18 touchdowns and 12 interceptions? Jimmy's time is over here. He is not gonna win the Super Bowl. Not with us. If Jimmy was so ready we would've already agreed to terms with another team. If you would like to place a wager. I would bet money the tray throws more touchdowns than 18. And has a better touchdown to interception ratio then Jimmy? I'm willing to make that bet! The point is if the Niners can't win with Jimmy what is the point of holding him back. Would you like him to not play for 3 years? Will he be ready then?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not ready as of right now. Everyone knows it. Even Joe Montana.

"Now Trey Lance, we don't know, and Trey doesn't know. If Trey was ready, Trey would have played," said Young. "Trey needs to get ready this offseason. This needs to be the biggest boot camp ever in history, to get him ready to be expansive. I told you when I said we'd have to watch him go from two to 10, this Fall is not going to go from 6-10, it's going to be a process, it's going to be a patient process, but we cannot wait for that. We've got to get him ready, and we've got six months to do it."

-Steve Young

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not ready as of right now. Everyone knows it. Even Joe Montana.

"Now Trey Lance, we don't know, and Trey doesn't know. If Trey was ready, Trey would have played," said Young. "Trey needs to get ready this offseason. This needs to be the biggest boot camp ever in history, to get him ready to be expansive. I told you when I said we'd have to watch him go from two to 10, this Fall is not going to go from 6-10, it's going to be a process, it's going to be a patient process, but we cannot wait for that. We've got to get him ready, and we've got six months to do it."

-Steve Young

Yeah it's going to be rocky next year.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not ready as of right now. Everyone knows it. Even Joe Montana.

"Now Trey Lance, we don't know, and Trey doesn't know. If Trey was ready, Trey would have played," said Young. "Trey needs to get ready this offseason. This needs to be the biggest boot camp ever in history, to get him ready to be expansive. I told you when I said we'd have to watch him go from two to 10, this Fall is not going to go from 6-10, it's going to be a process, it's going to be a patient process, but we cannot wait for that. We've got to get him ready, and we've got six months to do it."

-Steve Young

If Trey was ready he still wouldn't have played last year. Shanahan already said that Trey was going to be the backup all year.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
"Now Trey Lance, we don't know, and Trey doesn't know. If Trey was ready, Trey would have played," said Young. "Trey needs to get ready this offseason. This needs to be the biggest boot camp ever in history, to get him ready to be expansive. I told you when I said we'd have to watch him go from two to 10, this Fall is not going to go from 6-10, it's going to be a process, it's going to be a patient process, but we cannot wait for that. We've got to get him ready, and we've got six months to do it."

-Steve Young

Steve Young was wrong with one thing. If Troy was ready he would've played. That's not the case we heard multiple reports that Kyle was ready to make the switch. The problem is the locker room loved Jimmy. Not because of his ability to play quarterback but because they loved the guy the man. I'm Kyle didn't have the guts to split the team. I have no doubt in my mind the tray would have performed better than Jimmy. Because it wasn't that hard to perform better than Jimmy

Originally posted by fan49:
Steve Young was wrong with one thing. If Troy was ready he would've played. That's not the case we heard multiple reports that Kyle was ready to make the switch. The problem is the locker room loved Jimmy. Not because of his ability to play quarterback but because they loved the guy the man. I'm Kyle didn't have the guts to split the team. I have no doubt in my mind the tray would have performed better than Jimmy. Because it wasn't that hard to perform better than Jimmy

I felt this way once we drafted Trey based off what Kyle said and how Jimmy was acting. I felt the job this year was Jimmy's to lose and that Trey would either have to blow us away or Jimmy would have to be hurt

Trey will play this year as planned.

We wanted to give Jimmy one last ride with the guys unless Trey forced otherwise. Jimmy held him off and took us as far as he could and now we are moving forward as scheduled

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Lance would easily have been the 1st overall pick in this draft. So many QB needy teams, and an otherwise crap QB class this year.

That's an opinion many have. However, I believe he would've fallen off hard with more exposure.
I think he is one of the most fortunate athletes in the last few years he didn't have a season to play in 20.
This guy was the 3rd overall pick after starting two years his whole life at qb in his life.

And he's still better than Mac ****ing Jones.

Played two years his whole life at QB and still had what 40+ TDs and 0 INTs... that's even more impressive than if he had played his whole life at QB. If he's that good with only two years playing QB I like what he could look like after two years in the NFL once he gets used to the speed of the NFL.

If Jones was never in the draft and we didn't pass on him to trade up for Lance you wouldn't be saying a damn thing.

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by RackofRibs49:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm hoping to see it more. We didn't see it at all with Jimmy. I don't know if it was Shanahan refusing to take a shot. The oline. Jimmy's inaccurate deep ball. A reciever who couldnt stretch the field? A combination of all of that? It was a staple of the bill walsh offense that has completely disappeared.

Just not Jimmy's game. Like I've said a lot in here….his quick release is awesome and great on those short routes. It's all about his torque/upper body not really his footwork….when you see him take those shots downfield (not always) but his footwork is real bad. He's still trying to throw with that torque/up half stuff, like his quick throws…his arm talent isn't elite enough to do that downfield, so he needs those proper mechanics to get the ball downfield accurately.

Your right about his torque - he's all upper body.

I think Trey has the elite arm to do it either way - the Jimmy Torque way or the correctly mechanical way.

Either way, I'm excited about 2022.

P.S. to NY85, Yeah, the two 2021 Seadderall season Games were lost *both* by 7 points. The first one 28-21, the next one 30-23. The first seadderall game when Trey played one half, 49ers lost by 7. The second game when Jimmy played 100% they lost by 7. That is another Data Point that points to Trey's rediness and ability. The fact that Trey played one half when he was a stone cold rookie coming into his first *real* regular season game ever in his rookie career and played to the equivalent of Jimmy - if you consider the same margin of loss in both games.

Lol now do QB's in 49ers history the last 10 years who only scored 10 points like Trey. Jimmy did it once his entire career and won, Trey in 2.5 games has done it too.

Sure now do how many of them are 21 year old rookies who had 1 start in like 2 years before that particular game.

I was just pointing out how terrible your argument is. You said he played to the equivalent of Jimmy yet only scored 10 points. Our worst scoring in YEARS... So to counter using your own logic he's basically "the equivalent" of Beathard.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not ready as of right now. Everyone knows it. Even Joe Montana.

Well, regardless, he's now our starting QB.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not ready as of right now. Everyone knows it. Even Joe Montana.

How does Joe know if he's ready or not? He hasn't been to a Niners practice or seen him throw. Going by others opinions is not going to cut it.