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Originally posted by Jcool:
The only reasonable punishment for Brandon Staley should be him getting fired... But that wont happen... So sucks for Charger fans.

Shoulda been fired after the Chief's debacle. He's an idiot.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Well the same can be said about many TOs used in these exact situations.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Yeah, it really helped too, as Jacobs ripped off a 10 yard run right after that, lol

Either way, even Carr said it changed their approach, so there's that.

I suspect it changed what run play they chose, but come on, they were clearly running it before the TO as well.
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
DUDES the TO did not chsnge ANYTHING. The raiders were not going to take a knee, they were going to run the ball.

The chargers probably did not like the look they had so they called the TO to get a different playcall.

When no one was calling timeouts, it made sense to maintain the status quo and just run the clock out without looking like you were running the clock out. As soon as Chargers called a timeout, Raiders had to consider that the Chargers are trying to regain possession so all bets are off and you need to get a first down. Chargers coach swerved and it wasn't even a game of chicken.

Sure the Raider's formation before the timeout was more of a throwing look, but throwing made no sense so it was going to be a handoff with instructions to not fumble or take chances.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Well the same can be said about many TOs used in these exact situations.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Yeah, it really helped too, as Jacobs ripped off a 10 yard run right after that, lol

Either way, even Carr said it changed their approach, so there's that.

I suspect it changed what run play they chose, but come on, they were clearly running it before the TO as well.

Meant it changed whether they took a knee for the tie or went for FG and knock chargers out.
Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
DUDES the TO did not chsnge ANYTHING. The raiders were not going to take a knee, they were going to run the ball.

The chargers probably did not like the look they had so they called the TO to get a different playcall.

When no one was calling timeouts, it made sense to maintain the status quo and just run the clock out without looking like you were running the clock out. As soon as Chargers called a timeout, Raiders had to consider that the Chargers are trying to regain possession so all bets are off and you need to get a first down. Chargers coach swerved and it wasn't even a game of chicken.

Sure the Raider's formation before the timeout was more of a throwing look, but throwing made no sense so it was going to be a handoff with instructions to not fumble or take chances.

Exactly. Staley a moronic decision and it cost them playoff appearance. Anything longer than 50yds, LV wasn't trying a FG.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Wrong


In that same answer he also said tie was not in their mind, they were going for the win. So yeah.

Edit the full interview here.

[ Edited by jdt84_2 on Jan 9, 2022 at 9:53 PM ]
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Jimmy will be a Steeler next year.

Doubt it. Tomlin likes to go down field

Tomlin likes to win and it isn't likely without a legit QB. Jimmy can do that.
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Jimmy will be a Steeler next year.

Doubt it. Tomlin likes to go down field

Agreed. IMO The only realistic chance for a trade is with the NYG, CAR, and WFT
I think the Steelers and Denver could be in the mix as well.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Jordan Love has 3 interceptions this season. Rodgers has 4.

Life gonna be rough for Packers fans after Rodgers is gone. They'll finally see what most other fanbases are dealing with.
But this guy is really crap as of now.

They would be wise to trade for JG...same offensive scheme

He is no AR but he gives them a shot...they failed badly on Jordan Love and have no QB plan
Now that would be interesting. Not sure what Rodgers is doing, but if Love fails...ouch.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I don't understand the Chargers. Legit franchise QB, some very good WRs, decent run game, stud in Bosa and some other good talent on defense and still struggling to get into the playoffs.
This is what I don't get. They fired Lynn and are getting more of the same. Underachievers.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Meant it changed whether they took a knee for the tie or went for FG and knock chargers out.

No it did not. If they were going to kneel they would have. And if the chargers were trying to get the ball back they would not have waited 35 seconds into the play clock.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
DUDES the TO did not chsnge ANYTHING. The raiders were not going to take a knee, they were going to run the ball.

The chargers probably did not like the look they had so they called the TO to get a different playcall.

When no one was calling timeouts, it made sense to maintain the status quo and just run the clock out without looking like you were running the clock out. As soon as Chargers called a timeout, Raiders had to consider that the Chargers are trying to regain possession so all bets are off and you need to get a first down. Chargers coach swerved and it wasn't even a game of chicken.

Sure the Raider's formation before the timeout was more of a throwing look, but throwing made no sense so it was going to be a handoff with instructions to not fumble or take chances.

Exactly. Staley a moronic decision and it cost them playoff appearance. Anything longer than 50yds, LV wasn't trying a FG.

No joke. Just look at all the players. Both teams. They knew what was up. No one looked worried and there was zero urgency. I'm still just shaking my head. One of my best friends is a Chargers fan and I normally treat him like a good friend should and never let a harassment opportunity go to waste. Just can't go there on this.
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Shoulda been fired after the Chief's debacle. He's an idiot.

I never understood the logic of hiring a DC with one years experience, having called plays with studs like Donald and Ramsey. They should have stuck with what they had until a clearly superior option was available.

If I was in their situation, with a young franchise QB, I'd backup the Brinks truck for Jim Harbaugh. At least you know that he'd put in a reliable defense and run game to support your young QB.

And that job is desirable as hell for any coach considering how much talent there is to work with.
Imagine being a top 3 QB and missing the playoffs because your D blows and your coach is a moron.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Shoulda been fired after the Chief's debacle. He's an idiot.

I never understood the logic of hiring a DC with one years experience, having called plays with studs like Donald and Ramsey. They should have stuck with what they had until a clearly superior option was available.

If I was in their situation, with a young franchise QB, I'd backup the Brinks truck for Jim Harbaugh. At least you know that he'd put in a reliable defense and run game to support your young QB.

And that job is desirable as hell for any coach considering how much talent there is to work with.

To add, that defense is one of the worst in the league in total yards, points, and rushing yards. I keep asking why exactly was Lynn fired? And I totally agree on the Brandon Staley hire.

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Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
DUDES the TO did not chsnge ANYTHING. The raiders were not going to take a knee, they were going to run the ball.

The chargers probably did not like the look they had so they called the TO to get a different playcall.

When no one was calling timeouts, it made sense to maintain the status quo and just run the clock out without looking like you were running the clock out. As soon as Chargers called a timeout, Raiders had to consider that the Chargers are trying to regain possession so all bets are off and you need to get a first down. Chargers coach swerved and it wasn't even a game of chicken.

Sure the Raider's formation before the timeout was more of a throwing look, but throwing made no sense so it was going to be a handoff with instructions to not fumble or take chances.

Thank you for articulating what I knew in my gut but didn't know how to say lol
Hopefully the Bears hire Jim Harbaugh fast. I don't want to see him in Las Vegas. f**k that s**t. They don't deserve it
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