Super Bowl LVII - First ever Super Bowl to feature two African American Quarterbacks.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.

The five yard bump zone doesn't apply to defensive holding.

You're allowed to use your hands to try to knock the offensive player off his route, but you can't grab him or his jersey.

Also, the situation of a game doesn't matter, the rules are the rules. If you start letting the situation determine what called and isn't called, you're impacting the game in a much worse way.

AAgree with the poster who suggested that the stop photo is misleading. If you see the play in real time you realize there was almost zero impedance. So discretion would be perfectly valid to use in choosing not to throw a flag. The previous hold on Schuster should have been called and wasn't this hold shouldn't have been called but was. The net result was killing any chance Philly had to come back and tie the game. It was terrible decision making and most people recognize that.

Additionally most folks are still wondering what happened to the Philly defense which played like they were on horse tranquilizers the second half. It was a very unsatisfying Super Bowl on many competitive levels.

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Honestly I don't even know how we would've faired with a healthy Brock here. The grass was so slippery that it seemed to negate the passrushing. But one thing is for damn sure, the eagles defense is so overrated.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.

The five yard bump zone doesn't apply to defensive holding.

You're allowed to use your hands to try to knock the offensive player off his route, but you can't grab him or his jersey.

Also, the situation of a game doesn't matter, the rules are the rules. If you start letting the situation determine what called and isn't called, you're impacting the game in a much worse way.

AAgree with the poster who suggested that the stop photo is misleading. If you see the play in real time you realize there was almost zero impedance. So discretion would be perfectly valid to use in choosing not to throw a flag. The previous hold on Schuster should have been called and wasn't this hold shouldn't have been called but was. The net result was killing any chance Philly had to come back and tie the game. It was terrible decision making and most people recognize that.

Additionally most folks are still wondering what happened to the Philly defense which played like they were on horse tranquilizers the second half. It was a very unsatisfying Super Bowl on many competitive levels.

He has a hand full of jersey

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by linkboy:


That's the textbook definition of a hold. See how Juju's no 9 is being stretched out. That doesn't happen if Bradberry isn't tugging on his jersey, as fabric can't come to a point like that unless there's an external force pulling on it (in this case, Bradberry's hand).

As mentioned, multiple times last night, the ball position doesn't matter, so that argument doesn't hold water (holding is before the ball is thrown, pass interference is after).

If he had chucked him down would it have been a foul?

If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.

I think there's discretion with any call. If it were like the one they missed earlier on Juju I'd agree with the call, but when you literally have to get a still at the perfect angle to justify a penalty, I don't think there's nearly enough there to decide the season on that call

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.

The five yard bump zone doesn't apply to defensive holding.

You're allowed to use your hands to try to knock the offensive player off his route, but you can't grab him or his jersey.

Also, the situation of a game doesn't matter, the rules are the rules. If you start letting the situation determine what called and isn't called, you're impacting the game in a much worse way.

AAgree with the poster who suggested that the stop photo is misleading. If you see the play in real time you realize there was almost zero impedance. So discretion would be perfectly valid to use in choosing not to throw a flag. The previous hold on Schuster should have been called and wasn't this hold shouldn't have been called but was. The net result was killing any chance Philly had to come back and tie the game. It was terrible decision making and most people recognize that.

Additionally most folks are still wondering what happened to the Philly defense which played like they were on horse tranquilizers the second half. It was a very unsatisfying Super Bowl on many competitive levels.

• when he is defending himself against an obstructing opponent while attempting to reach the runner;
• when an opponent is obviously attempting to block him;
• in a personal attempt to reach a loose ball that has touched the ground during a backward pass, fumble, or kick;

• See 8-4-5 for rules applicable for an Illegal Cut Block against an eligible receiver.
• during a kick. See 6-2-1 and 9-1-4 for blocking restrictions during a kick."

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.

The five yard bump zone doesn't apply to defensive holding.

You're allowed to use your hands to try to knock the offensive player off his route, but you can't grab him or his jersey.

Also, the situation of a game doesn't matter, the rules are the rules. If you start letting the situation determine what called and isn't called, you're impacting the game in a much worse way.

AAgree with the poster who suggested that the stop photo is misleading. If you see the play in real time you realize there was almost zero impedance. So discretion would be perfectly valid to use in choosing not to throw a flag. The previous hold on Schuster should have been called and wasn't this hold shouldn't have been called but was. The net result was killing any chance Philly had to come back and tie the game. It was terrible decision making and most people recognize that.

Additionally most folks are still wondering what happened to the Philly defense which played like they were on horse tranquilizers the second half. It was a very unsatisfying Super Bowl on many competitive levels.

He has a hand full of jersey

Watch the play.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

He has a hand full of jersey

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Since apparently Greg Olsen gaslit everyone into thinking that was a bad holding call, here's the jersey grab and pull by Bradberry on JuJu Smith-Schuster. Not egregious but a pretty textbook hold. pic.twitter.com/D6FYEqzwWC

— Drew Loveland (@drewloveland) February 13, 2023

that's an obvious hold

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

I guess people on couches know more than Bradberry if it was a hold or not

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Watch the play.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It wasn't the time to suddenly call things on technicalities.

If you're going 2mph over the speed limit, technically you're speeding and can get a ticket. Is that really what the law was made for though? Do cops even bother?

Now imagine the stakes get higher and they make speeding a felony. Now all of a sudden a cop decides to get technical and enforces 2mph "speeding".

That's basically what happened

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Jason Kelce would look real good in a 49er uniform

He will be 36 next November though.

Javon Hargrave would look good in red and gold too.

Graham and Cox are probably a tad old.

36 years old seems to be the perfect age for center for Kyle