Super Bowl LVII - First ever Super Bowl to feature two African American Quarterbacks.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49erGlory:
With all due respect, some of y'all are tripping saying we would have been smoked even if we had a healthy QB. I don't understand how y'all came away from that game feeling that way at all. First off, other than a game we had no QB, the Niners have not been smoked in the playoffs ever in our last 6 appearances. The Eagles secondary was not better than ours even with Moseley out. They had the big names but Bradberry was killed often, they looked suspect, especially in the middle of the field with their backers. And that KC defense looked like swish cheese. Brock would have eaten that up. I don't care what happened in 2019, those aren't the same Chiefs and Brock isn't Jimmy. We also have CMC. Imagine what he does to KC? I think The Eagles, well they definitely have a better pass rush, they have nowhere close to the LB play that we have. Fred Warner is THAT good. And this is a defense that has been together for the most part, they also cause the most turnovers. I firmly believe this D would have forced at least 2 turnovers and that could have been the difference in the game. With that said, it absolutely would have been close and could go either way. But no way in my mind do we get blown out by KC, or anyone for that matter. This team is too good and Kyle was coaching his butt off heading into that NFC Title game. Just my two cents.

The Eagles had a better defense than us overall. Even if you give our offense a slight edge, we have a coach that doesn't take any risks. KC would have blown us out of the water, similar to our season matchup.

In hindsight I'm glad we didn't get this opportunity to embarrass ourselves. Our best hope with Kyle is going into a SB where the opposition has a mediocre QB that can't make a comeback when we're winning 17-7 or 17-10 late in the 4th. Anyone with a capable QB you know Kyle will curl up into a fetal position and s**t the bed…

lol

Eagles fans BEFORE the Super Bowl lol

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/84LrWX2GZzE

I've become a huge fan of going on 4th down unless 20 yards or so out of the end zone. The game evolves. New fads, new ways to win. But Eagles have nailed it for now in aggressive play. But like most years, if you can't lay down 30 in the SB you aren't going to win. We have to find out just how good Brock is or Trey for that matter. Number 1 defense. Punts, Field Goals, average/a little better than average QB aren't going to do it as shown in the latest batch of SBs.

Im still a bit sick we can build one of the best rosters but have been unable to find a QB. I hope Brock or Trey change that. They held on to Jimmy too long and that's my opinion like it or not.

The bottom line is that the Eagles couldn't close the deal just as we could not when we played the Chiefs. The way the NFL is today you need a Super QB to get to the Big Game. Then you come up against Brady or Mahomes and then onto the next year after they beat you. Lance and Purdy don't strike me as top of the line Quarterbacks. What will Shanahan do?

I will tune in to a rebroadcast of the last play of the game just to watch Hurt's pass to absolutely nowhere. That right there was an epic cowboys final play moment.

philly fans rioting in the streets last night,,,,win or lose, same outcome.

Philly fans:

Eagles lose the Super Bowl
Phillies lose the World Series
Union lose the MLS Cup

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Even if the refs didn't call holding on that last drive, Eggles still only had a minute and a half to drive down the field with no TOs.

Would have been a much more exciting finish than Hurts noodle arming a hail mary.

I've seen intentional grounding plays that had closer targets lol. There wasn't anyone within 20 yards of that pass, and that's hard to do when there are 22 people on the field lol.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49erGlory:
With all due respect, some of y'all are tripping saying we would have been smoked even if we had a healthy QB. I don't understand how y'all came away from that game feeling that way at all. First off, other than a game we had no QB, the Niners have not been smoked in the playoffs ever in our last 6 appearances. The Eagles secondary was not better than ours even with Moseley out. They had the big names but Bradberry was killed often, they looked suspect, especially in the middle of the field with their backers. And that KC defense looked like swish cheese. Brock would have eaten that up. I don't care what happened in 2019, those aren't the same Chiefs and Brock isn't Jimmy. We also have CMC. Imagine what he does to KC? I think The Eagles, well they definitely have a better pass rush, they have nowhere close to the LB play that we have. Fred Warner is THAT good. And this is a defense that has been together for the most part, they also cause the most turnovers. I firmly believe this D would have forced at least 2 turnovers and that could have been the difference in the game. With that said, it absolutely would have been close and could go either way. But no way in my mind do we get blown out by KC, or anyone for that matter. This team is too good and Kyle was coaching his butt off heading into that NFC Title game. Just my two cents.

The Eagles had a better defense than us overall. Even if you give our offense a slight edge, we have a coach that doesn't take any risks. KC would have blown us out of the water, similar to our season matchup.

In hindsight I'm glad we didn't get this opportunity to embarrass ourselves. Our best hope with Kyle is going into a SB where the opposition has a mediocre QB that can't make a comeback when we're winning 17-7 or 17-10 late in the 4th. Anyone with a capable QB you know Kyle will curl up into a fetal position and s**t the bed…

lol

In the playoffs, it's not always about which team has the best players. It's often about matchups. The Niners O line didn't match up well against the Eagles. Notice how the Eagles had no sacks against KC. The Niners couldn't handle Reddick at all. KC is a bad matchup for the Niners too mainly because of Mahomes. They have problems accounting for running QBs because of the style of defense they play. The defenders often have their backs to the play and leave the middle of the field open for a run or a pass over the middle to Kelce. KC also has a way of turning up the defensive pressure in the 2nd half.

The Philly defender admitted after the game that he was holding It's a bad look when a call like that is maf=de at the end of the game and has such a big effect on the outcome. Especially when they hadn't been calling penalties much all day.

You also have to look at it from the other perspective. If defenders know that the refs aren't going to throw a flag they're going to grab and hold even more. If Philly fans want to blame someone for the loss, blame Hurts for fumbling a ball without even getting hit that got scooped up and returned for a TD.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 49erGlory:
With all due respect, some of y'all are tripping saying we would have been smoked even if we had a healthy QB. I don't understand how y'all came away from that game feeling that way at all. First off, other than a game we had no QB, the Niners have not been smoked in the playoffs ever in our last 6 appearances. The Eagles secondary was not better than ours even with Moseley out. They had the big names but Bradberry was killed often, they looked suspect, especially in the middle of the field with their backers. And that KC defense looked like swish cheese. Brock would have eaten that up. I don't care what happened in 2019, those aren't the same Chiefs and Brock isn't Jimmy. We also have CMC. Imagine what he does to KC? I think The Eagles, well they definitely have a better pass rush, they have nowhere close to the LB play that we have. Fred Warner is THAT good. And this is a defense that has been together for the most part, they also cause the most turnovers. I firmly believe this D would have forced at least 2 turnovers and that could have been the difference in the game. With that said, it absolutely would have been close and could go either way. But no way in my mind do we get blown out by KC, or anyone for that matter. This team is too good and Kyle was coaching his butt off heading into that NFC Title game. Just my two cents.

The Eagles had a better defense than us overall. Even if you give our offense a slight edge, we have a coach that doesn't take any risks. KC would have blown us out of the water, similar to our season matchup.

In hindsight I'm glad we didn't get this opportunity to embarrass ourselves. Our best hope with Kyle is going into a SB where the opposition has a mediocre QB that can't make a comeback when we're winning 17-7 or 17-10 late in the 4th. Anyone with a capable QB you know Kyle will curl up into a fetal position and s**t the bed…

lol

In the playoffs, it's not always about which team has the best players. It's often about matchups. The Niners O line didn't match up well against the Eagles. Notice how the Eagles had no sacks against KC. The Niners couldn't handle Reddick at all. KC is a bad matchup for the Niners too mainly because of Mahomes. They have problems accounting for running QBs because of the style of defense they play. The defenders often have their backs to the play and leave the middle of the field open for a run or a pass over the middle to Kelce. KC also has a way of turning up the defensive pressure in the 2nd half.

We kept Mahomies in check for most of the game back in 2019 and that's because our secondary was solid with Dickies Sherman and our Dline was elite (save for a gimpy Dee Ford). We need another consistent edge rusher to help Bosa. And, yes, we need to do something about the offensive line and its protection schemes. We need to pass protect a little bit longer. With that said, Mahomes maneuvered the pocket very well and on some plays he got lucky with the escape.

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
The bottom line is that the Eagles couldn't close the deal just as we could not when we played the Chiefs. The way the NFL is today you need a Super QB to get to the Big Game. Then you come up against Brady or Mahomes and then onto the next year after they beat you. Lance and Purdy don't strike me as top of the line Quarterbacks. What will Shanahan do?

There isn't much Shanahan can do. Super QBs don't grow on trees. He tried to draft a high level talent (supposedly Lance) and he doesn't seem to be panning out like one. He is pretty much back to square one with Jimmy/Purdy level type QB who he can win with. Besides, he has to fix the O-line and D-line and we don't have much cap space left neither. He will just have to ride with Lance and Purdy hoping Purdy's elbow will be good to go.

What did I say in my long post? Shanahan refused to draft Mahomes and there are consequences when you get such key decisions wrong. If he had listened to Lynch, we probably would have won at least 1 if not 2 more Super Bowls by now.

Would also be nice to be guaranteed a 2 yard gain with every QB sneak,,,,even when the defense knows it's coming. That alone is a huge game changer.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Stanley:
Jalen Hurts is about to get a massive contract. Without this team around him, it's gonna end up biting Philly in the ass

Maybe. IMO, he did just outplay Mahomes

He cost his team a 14 point swing with that fumble so I'd say he didn't.

To each his own. 14 point swing? lol. You have no idea if Philly scores a TD or a FG on that drive, they just went from 3rd and inches to 3rd and 6,

At minimum it's a seven point swing in a three point game.

Originally posted by sspiker:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The momentary interference happened behind the line of scrimmage. This is the poter child for am insignificant infraction that should be ignored. In soccer a referree can dismiss infractions if they are trifling. As this should obviously have been. A terrible unprofessional moment.

Perhaps this is why we're talking past each other... are you talking about something completely different than when Bradberry held Juju Smith-Schuster?

JJSS was running a route, went inside, then tried to release outside; Bradberry was beat and tugged his jersey to yank him back so he couldn't get separation. It may have had a huge impact on the play - perhaps it was a quick-breaking route - and Mahomes had to scramble after JJSS wasn't immediately open. We don't know who the hot route was, and neither do the refs, meaning they can't just pick up the flag because they think the defensive holding didn't impact anything.

But you're talking about "momentary interference" that happened "behind the line of scrimmage". That's not the Bradberry hold, which happened during JJSS's route. What play are you talking about? Maybe that's why you didn't see what the rest of us plainly saw?

TThere's no confusion. Everyone saw the play. The "contact" happened at the line of scrimmage. Nobody saw a penalty including the national tv announcers. Everybody decides for themselves.no point in going on and on.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by sspiker:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
The momentary interference happened behind the line of scrimmage. This is the poter child for am insignificant infraction that should be ignored. In soccer a referree can dismiss infractions if they are trifling. As this should obviously have been. A terrible unprofessional moment.

Perhaps this is why we're talking past each other... are you talking about something completely different than when Bradberry held Juju Smith-Schuster?

JJSS was running a route, went inside, then tried to release outside; Bradberry was beat and tugged his jersey to yank him back so he couldn't get separation. It may have had a huge impact on the play - perhaps it was a quick-breaking route - and Mahomes had to scramble after JJSS wasn't immediately open. We don't know who the hot route was, and neither do the refs, meaning they can't just pick up the flag because they think the defensive holding didn't impact anything.

But you're talking about "momentary interference" that happened "behind the line of scrimmage". That's not the Bradberry hold, which happened during JJSS's route. What play are you talking about? Maybe that's why you didn't see what the rest of us plainly saw?

TThere's no confusion. Everyone saw the play. The "contact" happened at the line of scrimmage. Nobody saw a penalty including the national tv announcers. Everybody decides for themselves.no point in going on and on.

You can't hold no matter where it happens