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Feb 13, 2023 at 10:14 AM
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The problem with the catch rules is they rely on multiple camera angles in slow motion and analysis by a committee floating around in zero-gravity aboard an orbital platform to interpret. The rules are too complex to be correctly applied by unassisted humans, which IMO is a problem. Replay delays are boring.
Feb 13, 2023 at 11:02 AM
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After all that sh-- philly fans talked I'm glad it ended this way. Their "juggernaut" D got exposed just like we would of done with a healthy QB. I still don't believe they even deserved to be there, lucked into playing giants, lucked into playing a team with 0 QB's. Luckily we get a regular season re-match next season
Feb 13, 2023 at 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
can you post it for us?
That's the textbook definition of a hold. See how Juju's no 9 is being stretched out. That doesn't happen if Bradberry isn't tugging on his jersey, as fabric can't come to a point like that unless there's an external force pulling on it (in this case, Bradberry's hand).
As mentioned, multiple times last night, the ball position doesn't matter, so that argument doesn't hold water (holding is before the ball is thrown, pass interference is after).
[ Edited by linkboy on Feb 13, 2023 at 11:19 AM ]
Feb 13, 2023 at 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Lovely
Quinn had a great year in 2021, but didn't do much this year. Curious as to how much he could command. The guy I wanted back in 2011 :-).
Feb 13, 2023 at 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by 49erWill:Lol
Did anyone else trip out when that damn commercial made it seem like someone sat on the remote?
I did.
yea we were all saying WTH!!
Feb 13, 2023 at 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by linkboy:Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:can you post it for us?
That's the textbook definition of a hold. See how Juju's no 9 is being stretched out. That doesn't happen if Bradberry isn't tugging on his jersey, as fabric can't come to a point like that unless there's an external force pulling on it (in this case, Bradberry's hand).
As mentioned, multiple times last night, the ball position doesn't matter, so that argument doesn't hold water (holding is before the ball is thrown, pass interference is after).
I see the still. I am extremely happy with the call. It's still a terrible call lol
Feb 13, 2023 at 11:41 AM
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Colin Cowherd was absolutely right this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_WDxLkPagQ. The Philly defense wasn't as good as advertised because they were not tested all season long. The 70 sacks that made them a "juggernaut" were against very bad teams with below average QB's. Very good defense against bad teams, put them against a good team, good QB, they are just average. We saw it last night.
Feb 13, 2023 at 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Colin Cowherd was absolutely right this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_WDxLkPagQ. The Philly defense wasn't as good as advertised because they were not tested all season long. The 70 sacks that made them a "juggernaut" were against very bad teams with below average QB's. Very good defense against bad teams, put them against a good team, good QB, they are just average. We saw it last night.
They wrecked two playoff teams also us and giants.
Feb 13, 2023 at 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by linkboy:
That's the textbook definition of a hold. See how Juju's no 9 is being stretched out. That doesn't happen if Bradberry isn't tugging on his jersey, as fabric can't come to a point like that unless there's an external force pulling on it (in this case, Bradberry's hand).
As mentioned, multiple times last night, the ball position doesn't matter, so that argument doesn't hold water (holding is before the ball is thrown, pass interference is after).
If he had chucked him down would it have been a foul?
Feb 13, 2023 at 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by linkboy:
That's the textbook definition of a hold. See how Juju's no 9 is being stretched out. That doesn't happen if Bradberry isn't tugging on his jersey, as fabric can't come to a point like that unless there's an external force pulling on it (in this case, Bradberry's hand).
As mentioned, multiple times last night, the ball position doesn't matter, so that argument doesn't hold water (holding is before the ball is thrown, pass interference is after).
If he had chucked him down would it have been a foul?
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.
Feb 13, 2023 at 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by linkboy:
That's the textbook definition of a hold. See how Juju's no 9 is being stretched out. That doesn't happen if Bradberry isn't tugging on his jersey, as fabric can't come to a point like that unless there's an external force pulling on it (in this case, Bradberry's hand).
As mentioned, multiple times last night, the ball position doesn't matter, so that argument doesn't hold water (holding is before the ball is thrown, pass interference is after).
If he had chucked him down would it have been a foul?
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.
aka the Crabtree
Feb 13, 2023 at 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.
As long as you do it consistently. What you shouldn't do is call Chris Culliver for holding in the field of play but then allow Jimmy Smith to do the same thing to Crabtree in the endzone.
The issue with the refs is consistency. Or lack thereof
Feb 13, 2023 at 1:26 PM
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.
The five yard bump zone doesn't apply to defensive holding.
You're allowed to use your hands to try to knock the offensive player off his route, but you can't grab him or his jersey.
Also, the situation of a game doesn't matter, the rules are the rules. If you start letting the situation determine what called and isn't called, you're impacting the game in a much worse way.
Feb 13, 2023 at 1:37 PM
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Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Colin Cowherd was absolutely right this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_WDxLkPagQ. The Philly defense wasn't as good as advertised because they were not tested all season long. The 70 sacks that made them a "juggernaut" were against very bad teams with below average QB's. Very good defense against bad teams, put them against a good team, good QB, they are just average. We saw it last night.
You could say the same about the 49ers defense.
Feb 13, 2023 at 1:38 PM
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:Originally posted by linkboy:
That's the textbook definition of a hold. See how Juju's no 9 is being stretched out. That doesn't happen if Bradberry isn't tugging on his jersey, as fabric can't come to a point like that unless there's an external force pulling on it (in this case, Bradberry's hand).
As mentioned, multiple times last night, the ball position doesn't matter, so that argument doesn't hold water (holding is before the ball is thrown, pass interference is after).
If he had chucked him down would it have been a foul?
If it was within 5 yards I do not believe so. But this, this is a foul. It's not even up for debate. It's an undeniable fact that this was holding. The only argument the Eagles fans can make is that given the gravity of the moment the refs should have let the foul occur and not called the (correct) call.
I think there's discretion with any call. If it were like the one they missed earlier on Juju I'd agree with the call, but when you literally have to get a still at the perfect angle to justify a penalty, I don't think there's nearly enough there to decide the season on that call
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Feb 13, 2023 at 1:40 PM ]