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SJniner7
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Originally posted by teeohh:
We should not lose this game. We match up well with them imo, but after the bye and that horrible loss we had if we don't hit them in the mouth with a solid win I will lose my mind and cry.
Ya know, I felt the same way against atlanta, that we were evenly matched and look how that turned out. I do feel that that game was a wakeup call though, at least I sure hope so...
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9inermaniac
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the only way we can open up games is with our passing games. The rest of the NFL knows we dont pass well, and wait for us to run up the middle. We need some more variety and at least keep the D guessing.
2 yard up the middle
-2 yard up the middle
6 yard pass
punt
Something new PLEASE!
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jta854
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What kind of impact do you guys think Crabtree will have? My guess is not much.
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bergy07
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If the OC has a brain at all he will use Crabtree early and often against the Texans. There is no tape on this guy outside of his highlight film in college. The bye week can help this offense get out of the trash can and actually turn into a decent squad. We migtht have gotten blown out of the water against the birds, but I feel much better considering their 2010 #1 WR is about to suit up!!!
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cNiner
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Originally posted by king32:
Texans are 29th in rushing and 28th against the run. Gotta keep them one-dimensional and get Gore started early.
Craptree 2 TD cuz Gore going to get us close and then throw it to Crap and VD but VD will be coverd the b***h in heat then Crap will catch it !
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49erKing
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Originally posted by 9inermaniac:
the only way we can open up games is with our passing games. The rest of the NFL knows we dont pass well, and wait for us to run up the middle. We need some more variety and at least keep the D guessing.
2 yard up the middle
-2 yard up the middle
6 yard pass
punt
Something new PLEASE!
Here's my 1st down offensive AI at goallineblitz.com:
1st down:
i formation inside run rb 20%
strong i formation inside run rb 20%
strong i formation short pass te 20%
3 receiver set medium pass 20%
strong i formation rb screen pass 20%
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toeknee
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Originally posted by cNiner:
Originally posted by king32:
Texans are 29th in rushing and 28th against the run. Gotta keep them one-dimensional and get Gore started early.
Craptree 2 TD cuz Gore going to get us close and then throw it to Crap and VD but VD will be coverd the b***h in heat then Crap will catch it !
buzzb?
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TX9R
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I follow the Texans to a certain extent. Here's what needs to happen:
1.Be aggresive early. You get a lead on Houston and those fans will turn to boo birds quick. The majority are fed up and want the coach fired.
2. You have to pressure Schaub and force him to roll out. Overload on side on blitzes, Schaub is very immobile and very inaccurate on the move.
3. I wouldn't worry much about the run game, they'll try, then give up pretty quick. Stop it early and then just focus on the pass.
4. Watch for the pass on short yardage. They have been getting killed in the media for not playing to their strenghths and passing on these downs.
5. Keep a safety on Johnson at all times. This may even not work but by putting Lawson on Daniels, this forces Walter or Jones ot beat you which is a better matchup.
Basically this team has a pretty good secondary and one pass rusher to account for. They are terrible at stopping the run, and get heat for it in the press. This leads me to expect they will go all out on 1st and 2nd down with run blitzes, much like AZ did. They will disregard our passing until proven they can't. Don't be suprised if we can't run the ball in these condidtions. The best way to win is to come out passing on early downs early in the game, even if it's just short patterns for a few yards. If we continue to call plays like we have thus far I have no doubt we will lose this game.
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jimbagg
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OK, enough wishing and hoping. Let's look at what the Niners will be up against in Houston.
Houston Offense:
WR Andre Johnson may well be the best WR currently in the NFL. Clements will need consistent duble-team help to avoid another Roddy White-type day for Johnson.
QB Schaub is accurate. The pass rush must improve.
TE Owen Daniels is very under-rated and is probably Schaub's #2 downfild threat. SS Roman may be over-matched in coverage, as he subs for the injured M. Lewis. The Niners may need to pull Lawson away from the pass rush to shut down Daniels.
RB Steve Slaton, though not a power back like Peterson or Jackson, is shifty and has good hands. The Niner rush defense should be able to shut Slaton down, but he could still be dangerous as a receiver. Also making the Houston offense one-dimensional (pass only) is still a scary thought. That's what they do best.
Young OT's Duane Brown and Eric Winston are strong.
Houston Dfense:
play a 4-3 scheme.
DL is strong (A. Smith, Cody, Akoye, Mario Williams) L to R. Staley vs Williams should be interesting. But Okjoye and Cody vs the weak Niners OG's might be more of a threat.
MLB DeMeco Ryans is a tacking machine.
CB Dunta Robinson is a ball hawk and can shut down the Niners' #1 WR (Bruce?). Someone else (Morgan, Cragtree, Jones) will need to step up for Shaun Hill.
Houston has experienced safeties, so long passes will be unlikely for the Niner offense.
OLB's are either green or unremarkable, so edge plays will be key for the Niner offense.
Houston's home crowd will be a notable 12th man, possibly increasing the ;likelihood of motion penalties on the Niner OL.
Houston Special Teams:
Kris Brown is a solid PK.
So, can the Niners win this game? Sure, but figuring out where/how to attack the Texans makes this pre-game chat much more interesting for me. Maybe you too?
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RedWaltz24
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Originally posted by jimbagg:
OK, enough wishing and hoping. Let's look at what the Niners will be up against in Houston.
Houston Offense:
WR Andre Johnson may well be the best WR currently in the NFL. Clements will need consistent duble-team help to avoid another Roddy White-type day for Johnson.
QB Schaub is accurate. The pass rush must improve.
TE Owen Daniels is very under-rated and is probably Schaub's #2 downfild threat. SS Roman may be over-matched in coverage, as he subs for the injured M. Lewis. The Niners may need to pull Lawson away from the pass rush to shut down Daniels.
RB Steve Slaton, though not a power back like Peterson or Jackson, is shifty and has good hands. The Niner rush defense should be able to shut Slaton down, but he could still be dangerous as a receiver. Also making the Houston offense one-dimensional (pass only) is still a scary thought. That's what they do best.
Young OT's Duane Brown and Eric Winston are strong.
Houston Dfense:
play a 4-3 scheme.
DL is strong (A. Smith, Cody, Akoye, Mario Williams) L to R. Staley vs Williams should be interesting. But Okjoye and Cody vs the weak Niners OG's might be more of a threat.
MLB DeMeco Ryans is a tacking machine.
CB Dunta Robinson is a ball hawk and can shut down the Niners' #1 WR (Bruce?). Someone else (Morgan, Cragtree, Jones) will need to step up for Shaun Hill.
Houston has experienced safeties, so long passes will be unlikely for the Niner offense.
OLB's are either green or unremarkable, so edge plays will be key for the Niner offense.
Houston's home crowd will be a notable 12th man, possibly increasing the ;likelihood of motion penalties on the Niner OL.
Houston Special Teams:
Kris Brown is a solid PK.
So, can the Niners win this game? Sure, but figuring out where/how to attack the Texans makes this pre-game chat much more interesting for me. Maybe you too?
You forgot to mention Andrew Walter. If the Niners focus too much on Johnson and Owens, he will kill you.
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jimbagg
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Maybe you know something that I don't, but I am confident that Spencer and/or Bly can handle Walter. I would game plan to (1) limit the damage done by Johnson, (2) take TE Daniels away, and (3) provide tight coverage on RB Slaton in the flats.
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YungBird
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Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
Originally posted by jimbagg:
OK, enough wishing and hoping. Let's look at what the Niners will be up against in Houston.
Houston Offense:
WR Andre Johnson may well be the best WR currently in the NFL. Clements will need consistent duble-team help to avoid another Roddy White-type day for Johnson.
QB Schaub is accurate. The pass rush must improve.
TE Owen Daniels is very under-rated and is probably Schaub's #2 downfild threat. SS Roman may be over-matched in coverage, as he subs for the injured M. Lewis. The Niners may need to pull Lawson away from the pass rush to shut down Daniels.
RB Steve Slaton, though not a power back like Peterson or Jackson, is shifty and has good hands. The Niner rush defense should be able to shut Slaton down, but he could still be dangerous as a receiver. Also making the Houston offense one-dimensional (pass only) is still a scary thought. That's what they do best.
Young OT's Duane Brown and Eric Winston are strong.
Houston Dfense:
play a 4-3 scheme.
DL is strong (A. Smith, Cody, Akoye, Mario Williams) L to R. Staley vs Williams should be interesting. But Okjoye and Cody vs the weak Niners OG's might be more of a threat.
MLB DeMeco Ryans is a tacking machine.
CB Dunta Robinson is a ball hawk and can shut down the Niners' #1 WR (Bruce?). Someone else (Morgan, Cragtree, Jones) will need to step up for Shaun Hill.
Houston has experienced safeties, so long passes will be unlikely for the Niner offense.
OLB's are either green or unremarkable, so edge plays will be key for the Niner offense.
Houston's home crowd will be a notable 12th man, possibly increasing the ;likelihood of motion penalties on the Niner OL.
Houston Special Teams:
Kris Brown is a solid PK.
So, can the Niners win this game? Sure, but figuring out where/how to attack the Texans makes this pre-game chat much more interesting for me. Maybe you too?
You forgot to mention Andrew Walter. If the Niners focus too much on Johnson and Owens, he will kill you.
You mean Kevin Walter?
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RedWaltz24
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Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
Originally posted by jimbagg:
OK, enough wishing and hoping. Let's look at what the Niners will be up against in Houston.
Houston Offense:
WR Andre Johnson may well be the best WR currently in the NFL. Clements will need consistent duble-team help to avoid another Roddy White-type day for Johnson.
QB Schaub is accurate. The pass rush must improve.
TE Owen Daniels is very under-rated and is probably Schaub's #2 downfild threat. SS Roman may be over-matched in coverage, as he subs for the injured M. Lewis. The Niners may need to pull Lawson away from the pass rush to shut down Daniels.
RB Steve Slaton, though not a power back like Peterson or Jackson, is shifty and has good hands. The Niner rush defense should be able to shut Slaton down, but he could still be dangerous as a receiver. Also making the Houston offense one-dimensional (pass only) is still a scary thought. That's what they do best.
Young OT's Duane Brown and Eric Winston are strong.
Houston Dfense:
play a 4-3 scheme.
DL is strong (A. Smith, Cody, Akoye, Mario Williams) L to R. Staley vs Williams should be interesting. But Okjoye and Cody vs the weak Niners OG's might be more of a threat.
MLB DeMeco Ryans is a tacking machine.
CB Dunta Robinson is a ball hawk and can shut down the Niners' #1 WR (Bruce?). Someone else (Morgan, Cragtree, Jones) will need to step up for Shaun Hill.
Houston has experienced safeties, so long passes will be unlikely for the Niner offense.
OLB's are either green or unremarkable, so edge plays will be key for the Niner offense.
Houston's home crowd will be a notable 12th man, possibly increasing the ;likelihood of motion penalties on the Niner OL.
Houston Special Teams:
Kris Brown is a solid PK.
So, can the Niners win this game? Sure, but figuring out where/how to attack the Texans makes this pre-game chat much more interesting for me. Maybe you too?
You forgot to mention Andrew Walter. If the Niners focus too much on Johnson and Owens, he will kill you.
You mean Kevin Walter?
Yeah. As you can tell, I live in Houston.
I don't think Andrew Walter will be a threat in this game.
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49ers1fan1982
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Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
Originally posted by jimbagg:
OK, enough wishing and hoping. Let's look at what the Niners will be up against in Houston.
Houston Offense:
WR Andre Johnson may well be the best WR currently in the NFL. Clements will need consistent duble-team help to avoid another Roddy White-type day for Johnson.
QB Schaub is accurate. The pass rush must improve.
TE Owen Daniels is very under-rated and is probably Schaub's #2 downfild threat. SS Roman may be over-matched in coverage, as he subs for the injured M. Lewis. The Niners may need to pull Lawson away from the pass rush to shut down Daniels.
RB Steve Slaton, though not a power back like Peterson or Jackson, is shifty and has good hands. The Niner rush defense should be able to shut Slaton down, but he could still be dangerous as a receiver. Also making the Houston offense one-dimensional (pass only) is still a scary thought. That's what they do best.
Young OT's Duane Brown and Eric Winston are strong.
Houston Dfense:
play a 4-3 scheme.
DL is strong (A. Smith, Cody, Akoye, Mario Williams) L to R. Staley vs Williams should be interesting. But Okjoye and Cody vs the weak Niners OG's might be more of a threat.
MLB DeMeco Ryans is a tacking machine.
CB Dunta Robinson is a ball hawk and can shut down the Niners' #1 WR (Bruce?). Someone else (Morgan, Cragtree, Jones) will need to step up for Shaun Hill.
Houston has experienced safeties, so long passes will be unlikely for the Niner offense.
OLB's are either green or unremarkable, so edge plays will be key for the Niner offense.
Houston's home crowd will be a notable 12th man, possibly increasing the ;likelihood of motion penalties on the Niner OL.
Houston Special Teams:
Kris Brown is a solid PK.
So, can the Niners win this game? Sure, but figuring out where/how to attack the Texans makes this pre-game chat much more interesting for me. Maybe you too?
You forgot to mention Andrew Walter. If the Niners focus too much on Johnson and Owens, he will kill you.
You mean Kevin Walter?
Yeah. As you can tell, I live in Houston. I don't think Andrew Walter will be a threat in this game.
I dont think that Houston will be a threat in this game.
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Esco
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This game can't come soon enough.