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"You look at our offense last year," York said. "It wasn't I think where it should have been. I think we have better talent than what our results showed. And again, I am not the expert in terms of calling X's and O's, and writing plays and doing things like that, but I know that our players are equipped to go play the game and compete for championships. And we need to make sure that we're all in this thing together, and moving forward and giving ourselves a chance to ultimately host and win the Super Bowl this year."

- Jed York
CEO, Head Coach, Fanboy

Funny. Does the twerp think he knows better then a world class coach?

Little twerp can't just admit he couldn't get along with harbaugh and pretends like its in the field stuff which he even admits to having no idea about.

Lol
Originally posted by 190836:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 190836:
Hurt feelings? Not at all!! Harbaugh was never my boy and I was highly critical of his offensive direction and his complete disregard for some of the off field distractions . However you have to admit, it was him who took us to three NFC championship and a SB. Do you really think Tomsula, Chryst and Mangini are going to take us to the playoffs next year? That's what JH did in his first year.

Fair enough. Let me ask you one honest question since we're giving Harbaugh the full 70% winning pitch here: "What would his record be without Trent Baalke and Fangio and staff?"

That's not meant to discredit Harbaugh's influence but to provide real-context for football being the ultimate team-game.
Probably around 50%. I really don't know, I think Baalke and Fangio were the main reasons behind JH's success. But lets remember one thing, Jim Harbaugh brought with him a winning attitude and a culture which Nolan or Sing could not create.

I could not agree more!
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
You don't need to find out who said it? Where did come from? All you need to know is who did it hurt. That's the real question my NINER faithful. As the saga keeps unfolding.. You get a pretty good idea where it's coming from. Follow the bread crumbs.

Well if we are following the bread crumbs they lead to #15. No one was hurt more by this offense not functioning then him as free agency has shown.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Mar 22, 2015 at 11:56 AM ]
Originally posted by SaksV:
I'm not a Harbaugh fan by any means but I did mention months ago in the midst of our down-the-drain season that Harbaugh's positive qualities as a coach were
A) The ability to bring groups of men together and motivate them to perform at a higher level (or maintain a high level of motivation)
B) A keen sense of knowing how to shoulder a lot of burden, allowing players to do their jobs
C) Does a good to very good job of preparing and instructing members of his staff as well as players as to what their role & function is

With that said, of the above mentioned qualities, his ego personality is more dominant and therefore corrodes at those good qualities in a short period of time. It also prevents him from working more diligently at his own coaching flaws which are in no particular order:

1) Inconsistent Policies in terms of team management (I'm sure we all agree Kap was the right choice but Harbaugh's "Hot Hand" policy didn't always apply across the board)
2) Stubborn Playcalling and General Football philosophy (This one pissed me off the most about him because his brother is such a clear example of a guy who is willing to throw away philosophies and schemes that don't work for the future of the entire organization...his outlook on offensive football is absolutely stone-aged in my opinion as well. This rubs off on most of if not all the QBs who become very robotic under his tutelage. It works for low-risk 1977 football but not today when you MUST open things up or be dominated by faster more flexible defenses.)
3) Inability to Adjust during games (This is already well documented..When Harbaugh is cornered, he doesn't know WTF to do, so he just keeps "ploughing" ahead)

Like I said, because of the reasons mentioned in 1, 2 and 3, they eventually overwhelm A,B or C in the course of 3 years no matter where he goes. In 2019 Michigan will be saying the same thing unless he works on his ego.

What's funny to me is how much people buy into Jim Harbaugh being such a smart Xs and Os strategist and peg Jim Tomsula as being a "rah rah" type that will fizzle out, when in fact it's more like the opposite!

I see so much John Madden in Jim Tomsula that I am very pleased with Jed's choice. Madden was a guy nobody thought knew much about the game and was full of cliches but he really knew his sh*t...he just happened to really love the game and was a likeable "jolly" coach to his players. He also had a darn good staff around him that worked well together. I see that a lot in JT. I'd love for us to win more than one ring though

I appreciate this post. Thanks for going in-depth. I agree with a lot of it. Harbaugh is a good leader of men...unfortunately his approach/style has major limitations. If he's wise, he'll learn from this experience, refine his offensive philosophy and come back to the NFL some day!
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:
You don't need to find out who said it? Where did come from? All you need to know is who did it hurt. That's the real question my NINER faithful. As the saga keeps unfolding.. You get a pretty good idea where it's coming from. Follow the bread crumbs.

Well if we are following the bread crumbs they lead to #15.

I'm going to support my coach but I will not support the bullsh! That goes on in the business and how certain things get done. There's certain things I don't agree with.
You want win with class? Lose and fire with class too..
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Mar 22, 2015 at 2:38 PM ]
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Originally posted by NCommand:
I appreciate this post. Thanks for going in-depth. I agree with a lot of it. Harbaugh is a good leader of men...unfortunately his approach/style has major limitations. If he's wise, he'll learn from this experience, refine his offensive philosophy and come back to the NFL some day!

Absolutely... I don't doubt him as a coach and the ability to be a winner. That's already been proven to be a piece of cake for him... What separates him from being a Championship Coach however, is LITERALLY 5 Yards of Ego.
Originally posted by SaksV:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I appreciate this post. Thanks for going in-depth. I agree with a lot of it. Harbaugh is a good leader of men...unfortunately his approach/style has major limitations. If he's wise, he'll learn from this experience, refine his offensive philosophy and come back to the NFL some day!

Absolutely... I don't doubt him as a coach and the ability to be a winner. That's already been proven to be a piece of cake for him... What separates him from being a Championship Coach however, is LITERALLY 5 Yards of Ego.

Lol. Great one!
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
"You look at our offense last year," York said. "It wasn't I think where it should have been. I think we have better talent than what our results showed. And again, I am not the expert in terms of calling X's and O's, and writing plays and doing things like that, but I know that our players are equipped to go play the game and compete for championships. And we need to make sure that we're all in this thing together, and moving forward and giving ourselves a chance to ultimately host and win the Super Bowl this year."

- Jed York
CEO, Head Coach, Fanboy

Funny. Does the twerp think he knows better then a world class coach?

Little twerp can't just admit he couldn't get along with harbaugh and pretends like its in the field stuff which he even admits to having no idea about.

Lol

More like jh can't handle it, you really call that coaching last year..?..jh was the a*****e wouldn't even try to get better on offense...his plays sucked ass....so many forget that..
Where's Jesse Dumas? Come out from hiding
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
More like jh can't handle it, you really call that coaching last year..?..jh was the a*****e wouldn't even try to get better on offense...his plays sucked ass....so many forget that..

Sounds like Jed knows a bit more about the on field product than some of our fans posting here. I am almost certain that Jed knows about what the average poster here knows about the game. He is admittedly not a coach but he is invested enough in HIS TEAM to know whether or not there have been discussions between Trent and Jim about the scheme and the players we've acquired for scheme fit and its constant failings and pitiful second half scoring all season. Games were essentially won the first half only for us to yield to our opponents. A lot of our offensive issues have been ongoing since 2011 but only last year did those issues overwhelm us as defenses adjusted to what we do. I give a disclaimer in that our OL was hobbled and performed atrociously and that there would have bee a lot of coaches that would fail under those circumstances but Mike Solari sure as hell didn't perform well at his task either. Not going to cry over him moving on either
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
More like jh can't handle it, you really call that coaching last year..?..jh was the a*****e wouldn't even try to get better on offense...his plays sucked ass....so many forget that..

Sounds like Jed knows a bit more about the on field product than some of our fans posting here. I am almost certain that Jed knows about what the average poster here knows about the game. He is admittedly not a coach but he is invested enough in HIS TEAM to know whether or not there have been discussions between Trent and Jim about the scheme and the players we've acquired for scheme fit and its constant failings and pitiful second half scoring all season. Games were essentially won the first half only for us to yield to our opponents. A lot of our offensive issues have been ongoing since 2011 but only last year did those issues overwhelm us as defenses adjusted to what we do. I give a disclaimer in that our OL was hobbled and performed atrociously and that there would have bee a lot of coaches that would fail under those circumstances but Mike Solari sure as hell didn't perform well at his task either. Not going to cry over him moving on either

his moms team
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
his moms team

We all know that. He is anointed the face of the franchise because his mother is a recluse of sorts. At the end of the day he has to treat it as his team because when Denise and John croak it is Jed's team so we may as well accept this right now. Inevitably he will be owner and Jax thereafter when I am dead and gone
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
More like jh can't handle it, you really call that coaching last year..?..jh was the a*****e wouldn't even try to get better on offense...his plays sucked ass....so many forget that..

Sounds like Jed knows a bit more about the on field product than some of our fans posting here. I am almost certain that Jed knows about what the average poster here knows about the game. He is admittedly not a coach but he is invested enough in HIS TEAM to know whether or not there have been discussions between Trent and Jim about the scheme and the players we've acquired for scheme fit and its constant failings and pitiful second half scoring all season. Games were essentially won the first half only for us to yield to our opponents. A lot of our offensive issues have been ongoing since 2011 but only last year did those issues overwhelm us as defenses adjusted to what we do. I give a disclaimer in that our OL was hobbled and performed atrociously and that there would have bee a lot of coaches that would fail under those circumstances but Mike Solari sure as hell didn't perform well at his task either. Not going to cry over him moving on either

his moms team

Dude is a life long fan and CEO of the organization and you get chippy over someone referring to the 49ers as "his team"? lol
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