49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I notice all these quotes come from the L streak period
my interpretation, and I believe it to be correct, is we are sunk without Trent

Banks too. Without Trent and Banks, this OL is in big trouble. And you can misquote me out of context on that one.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Well without watching the snaps, and lacking the technical expertise (no criticisms there), what is your basis for saying they've really fallen off this season? It can't just be their results as a team I hope.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
This was a good one, of many, that happened as the OL was being ripped on then they had slipped out of home field advantage 🤣

Oct 24, 2023 at 6:15 AM

#2576

NCommand Hall of Fame
Without home field advantage and the extra week off, we were done anyhow. At least we know early now

That Phili O line locked down that #1 seed.

The benchmark

I notice all these quotes come from the L streak period
my interpretation, and I believe it to be correct, is we are sunk without Trent

Had nothing to do with Trent

What da heck?

What don't you get? You can see my above edit

here I was thinking you were talking 49er football for once, and saying the L streak had nothing to do with Trent
yes I see your edit, more of the he said / she said in the OL thread, many moons ago style stuff..

That's right, I forgot your the same guy who's stance changes depending on which way the wind is blowing and likes to pretend he never said things when the nonsense hot takes don't pan out

There's a literal quote in the Wilks thread, during the L streak, where I kept the faith in Wilks,
I said that exact thing, that I wasn't about to change my stance on him, depending on which way the wind is blowing, lot of folks did, sad to say..
but here now again, we aren't talking 49er football so much, we are doing a schoolgirl style gossip, about who said what, when and where, and why..
I'm more into talking ball, than the gossip

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Well yea. You can never be wrong when you are the thread gate keeper and continue to change the narrative to suit your argument.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
This was a good one, of many, that happened as the OL was being ripped on then they had slipped out of home field advantage 🤣

Oct 24, 2023 at 6:15 AM

#2576

NCommand Hall of Fame
Without home field advantage and the extra week off, we were done anyhow. At least we know early now

That Phili O line locked down that #1 seed.

The benchmark

I notice all these quotes come from the L streak period
my interpretation, and I believe it to be correct, is we are sunk without Trent

Had nothing to do with Trent

What da heck?

What don't you get? You can see my above edit

here I was thinking you were talking 49er football for once, and saying the L streak had nothing to do with Trent
yes I see your edit, more of the he said / she said in the OL thread, many moons ago style stuff..

That's right, I forgot your the same guy who's stance changes depending on which way the wind is blowing and likes to pretend he never said things when the nonsense hot takes don't pan out

There's a literal quote in the Wilks thread, during the L streak, where I kept the faith in Wilks,
I said that exact thing, that I wasn't about to change my stance on him, depending on which way the wind is blowing, lot of folks did, sad to say..
but here now again, we aren't talking 49er football so much, we are doing a schoolgirl style gossip, about who said what, when and where, and why..
I'm more into talking ball, than the gossip

Agree, on that. The Parking Lot is a great place for non-football gossip stuff.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Good to know the niners actually have a chance now since apparently there are no tier 1 OL/QB combos. Seems like just yesterday they had no shot strictly because of their OL. Phew

Lions are the future Super Bowl champs just accept it.

Nah, Lions have a tier 1 OL but not QB. Same with the Eagles. 3 teams with tier 2 OL's have tier 1 QB's. The formula of the past 7 years will not apply this year.

This is our year.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
NC should just blame it all on Jed York. He's the one that hired everyone. No one else is accountable

Haha. Let's blame Paraag if we don't finally win it this year.

For me, Kyle Shanahan gets my blame!

Originally posted by NCommand:
And John. It's definitely a well documented team building strategy.

Will it be "good enough?" Let's hope so!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Well yea. You can never be wrong when you are the thread gate keeper and continue to change the narrative to suit your argument.

Nobody changed a narrative. I've been very consistent across the board.

And aren't you the one who's been saying this is really a tier 4 OL mainly d/t the PP?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Good to know the niners actually have a chance now since apparently there are no tier 1 OL/QB combos. Seems like just yesterday they had no shot strictly because of their OL. Phew

Lions are the future Super Bowl champs just accept it.

Nah, Lions have a tier 1 OL but not QB. Same with the Eagles. 3 teams with tier 2 OL's have tier 1 QB's. The formula of the past 7 years will not apply this year.

This is our year.

Yet you bet on us that it wasn't our year, remember your bet ? You have Philly and Det

I bet assuming there would be another tier 1 OL + QB combo like the previous 7 years (all Superbowl winners). That didn't happen this year. As far as I'm concerned, the formula did not work this year and I already lost the bet even if one of my 2 teams ends up going further.

Originally posted by Giedi:
For me, Kyle Shanahan gets my blame!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree with both, 49ers aren't an elite offensive line group like some of the legendary offensive lines of old, but they are plenty good. (Not great). McKivitz continued development in the playoffs and Trent's health is going to be key for a successful playoff season. Banks and Brendel can stay at the same level, but Burford has to improve. Feliciano is key here to plug in for Burford as depth in a playoff run. I'd love for the OLIne to continue to get better. They can, if they just stay healthy.

Yeah, the only concern is the pass protection when we/if we get off script. That's when the below average ability shows as we've seen.

We certainly run better to the right with Feliciano. But if a team can stuff the runs to the left, that too can expose some weaknesses (ripple effect).

That said, very few teams have got us off script and even in all of them, we still had a chance to win if not for the self-inflicted TO's and missed FG's.

With no teams in tier 1 for both QB & OL, we have as legit a shot as any team esp. upon rematch.

This should be our year! No excuses as this is the healthiest we've been the entire ShanaLynch regime AND have a first round bye!

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
You just seem to be prepped to assign a future loss to the lack of having a dominant line. Similar to others who are waiting to jump on Kyle… or Brock.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:
>>Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
We're not, but that doesn't answer what is sub par and Purdy decisions throw INTs<<

I'm not the only one saying that.

A second factor is that the Niners are a decidedly left-handed team running the ball. The foundational concept of Shanahan's scheme is unpredictability. An investment in the right side of the line would restore balance to the force, they could run left or right with equal success.
https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/progress-and-barriers-on-the-49ers-quest-for-six

We do also run to the right, not as much but it's not 100%

but what is sub par?

Here you go.

adjective

• Below an average, usual, or normal level, quality, or the like; below par: This month his performance has been subpar. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/subpar#google_vignette

great. so how would a below avg OL be able to win 12 games, lead the league in rushing, passing, have 4 1k yard players and 2 MVP candidates ?

also, how does a below avg line have better results than Tier 1 OLs ?

the math just doesn't add up

So you think the 49ers OLine played elite in the 49ers losses this season?

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Well yea. You can never be wrong when you are the thread gate keeper and continue to change the narrative to suit your argument.

Nobody changed a narrative. I've been very consistent across the board.

And aren't you the one who's been saying this is really a tier 4 OL mainly d/t the PP?

I never changed my stance on where I believe the O line is ranked. I just don't believe you need a top 2 O line to win the SB. I believe you can win inspite of an average to below average O line. I believe QB and defense are far more important.