49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Look at every draft, there is boom and bust picks all over. In fact, it is funny to go back and read the names selected before genuine super stars in past drafts.

OL is a tremendous need and should be feed with multiple draft picks.

Thats not a hard concept to fathom.

They did use multiple draft picks then signed one of he top rated undrafted OL.

Is secondary also not a tremendous need?

Burford who was in for an injured Feli, had the biggest brain fart at the worst time.. That play doesn't make the entire line as the worst in the NFL

No but it does highlight that we should be looking to improve the OL.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
it's hard for you.. as you have missed 4 NFC, and 2 SBs with a line that you think sucks. On top of that, the other 2 years that we missed the playoffs weren't due to the OL either.

it doesn't suck, any line with Trent Williams in it couldn't suck but....

it still can improve.

and I think our OL has cost us in big games, most 9ers fans would agree with that.

no one is saying we shouldn't improve our OL, you're failing to see that we have..

and like i said before, we haven't lost one big game due to the OL

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes, but they seem to have drafted for the secondary. I'm all for improvement there as well.

Imo they didn't use enough draft capital on the OL.

The player is what matters, not the capital used to acquire them. You'd think the last few years would've taught all 9er fans that.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes, but they seem to have drafted for the secondary. I'm all for improvement there as well.

Imo they didn't use enough draft capital on the OL.

The player is what matters, not the capital used to acquire them. You'd think the last few years would've taught all 9er fans that.

it takes capital to draft good players. the more tries you have, the more chance of success.
you don't get it right all the time or you can strike gold, lts a crap shoot at best.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
This is so accurate; they could have spent a first draft pick or second draft pick on OL the last couple of years and that would have shown at least that they were trying to address the issue.

They couldn't have spent a 1st or 2nd last year.

So McGlinchey was a good decision solely because they showed they were addressing the issue?

this guy Ron talking out the ass now.. NC like. spend a first ? lol

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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
it takes capital to draft good players. the more tries you have, the more chance of success.
you don't get it right all the time or you can strike gold, lts a crap shoot at best.

Any evidence to back up the claim that your ideas are more GM-worthy than the 49ers?

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
They simply haven't addressed their biggest issue of the off season.

The problems with the offensive line have been obvious for a while and no one can hide it

And as we get towards the play offs each year, it becomes more and more obvious.

Thats just not accurate. They absolutely addressed it. Added Hubbard, 3 interior rooks and resigned Felciano.

Now is that enough? Don't know. Until anyone actually plays we don't know who is good and who isnt.

Late rounders and UDFA scrubs that will likely be PS players at best aren't "addressing" a need. It's gravy if they ever contribute at all. Re-signing Feliciano is maintaining the status quo, not getting better. The fact is that the FO addressed what was arguably our biggest weakness all year with a 3rd round pick. I like Puni and I think he will be solid, but there is no reason to believe the OL will be any better this year than it was last year, and the cupboard is looking very bare for the future.

This is so accurate; they could have spent a first draft pick or second draft pick on OL the last couple of years and that would have shown at least that they were trying to address the issue.

I think the 3 first rounders trade up for Trey really cramped the 49ers in getting some good OLine players. Not complaining about landing Brock in the 7th round, as you can get first round talent level players in the 7th round. But they are rare as heck.

Marry a good OLine coach with Day 2 picks (like Forester and the Puni) pick, I think is a good way to go in the future. They have a good DLine coach and they team that up with first round level talent (Kocurek and Bosa/Drake), I think Foerster and day 2 level talent from here on out will work in the future. (I.e. Banks/Foerster.)

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Yes, but they seem to have drafted for the secondary. I'm all for improvement there as well.

Imo they didn't use enough draft capital on the OL.

The player is what matters, not the capital used to acquire them. You'd think the last few years would've taught all 9er fans that.

This is going to be an important fact, considering we lost Adam Peter's in the last off-season.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
They simply haven't addressed their biggest issue of the off season.

The problems with the offensive line have been obvious for a while and no one can hide it

And as we get towards the play offs each year, it becomes more and more obvious.

Thats just not accurate. They absolutely addressed it. Added Hubbard, 3 interior rooks and resigned Felciano.

Now is that enough? Don't know. Until anyone actually plays we don't know who is good and who isnt.

Your first point is subjective. Have they addressed it really enough?!?! They could have done a lot more than they did.

Your second point is accurate.

And then there is the general curse that Kyle Shannahan has on him that he is never to win a Superbowl which of course they can't beak no matter who is playing.

We resigned Feliciano before the draft. They didn't address RT at all if Puni is in fact a guard at the NFL level. So imo the one guy almost everyone agrees needed some serious competition pretty much doesn't have any. I hope he shows improvement, but I think him and Brendal are weak links.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Look at every draft, there is boom and bust picks all over. In fact, it is funny to go back and read the names selected before genuine super stars in past drafts.

OL is a tremendous need and should be feed with multiple draft picks.

Thats not a hard concept to fathom.

They did use multiple draft picks then signed one of he top rated undrafted OL.

Is secondary also not a tremendous need?

Burford who was in for an injured Feli, had the biggest brain fart at the worst time.. That play doesn't make the entire line as the worst in the NFL

PFF had us rated bottom 10 last year in pass blocking for the season

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Look at every draft, there is boom and bust picks all over. In fact, it is funny to go back and read the names selected before genuine super stars in past drafts.

OL is a tremendous need and should be feed with multiple draft picks.

Thats not a hard concept to fathom.

They did use multiple draft picks then signed one of the top rated undrafted OL.

Is secondary also not a tremendous need?

Yes OL and secondary were both huge needs so we used our first on a WR

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
We resigned Feliciano before the draft. They didn't address RT at all if Puni is in fact a guard at the NFL level. So imo the one guy almost everyone agrees needed some serious competition pretty much doesn't have any. I hope he shows improvement, but I think him and Brendal are weak links.

Hubbard is more competition for 2024 then any of the rooks they could've gotten would've been.

Originally posted by mcwoot:
Yes OL and secondary were both huge needs so we used our first on a WR

Because two of our guys will be gone in a year in all likelihood. Planning a year early.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
this guy Ron talking out the ass now.. NC like. spend a first ? lol

MrATT with no NC around: