Colin Kaepernick Thread

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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Kap looked damn good last night. Making the right presnap reads, hitting RB's, going through progressions, throwing back shoulder throws.

Were you high. drunk or just a Kap homer? He had a 76.9 rating. Average that for a year and you are a bottom 5 QB. He did that against a team composed of a lot of guys who won't ever play a snap in the NFL again. When it is 3rd and 4th stringers versus the same a QB still has a big advantage. Those guys are a step slow and don't react as fast as 1's. They don't close as fast on open receivers and don't get to the QB once clear of blockers as well. Kap had a clean pocket most of the night, Christian Ponder the career third stringer at best outplayed him. Even though he sucks now big time I thought he would light up guys who aren't NFL talent, yet he averaged a measly 5.7 yards an attempt. Why anyone would say he looked good baffles the mind.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Didn't see anything different last night. Same Kaep that we've seen the last 2 years. Late on throws, forced 1 read, stare down receivers. If he had improved in these areas, I wouldn't care about the numbers. And all this with Kelly adjusting his offense for Kaep.

This....same ol' Kap. Wasn't impressed at all. He should've been lighting it up against backups.

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Kap looked damn good last night. Making the right presnap reads, hitting RB's, going through progressions, throwing back shoulder throws.

Were you high. drunk or just a Kap homer? He had a 76.9 rating. Average that for a year and you are a bottom 5 QB. He did that against a team composed of a lot of guys who won't ever play a snap in the NFL again. When it is 3rd and 4th stringers versus the same a QB still has a big advantage. Those guys are a step slow and don't react as fast as 1's. They don't close as fast on open receivers and don't get to the QB once clear of blockers as well. Kap had a clean pocket most of the night, Christian Ponder the career third stringer at best outplayed him. Even though he sucks now big time I thought he would light up guys who aren't NFL talent, yet he averaged a measly 5.7 yards an attempt. Why anyone would say he looked good baffles the mind.

Here we go with more BS from bobs

if ratings is your liking then that Whalen TD catch and millers drop would have put him over 100 easy

Plus not one other QB on the 49ers put on a such a great successful time consuming drive that Kaep lead all preseason.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

YESSSSS PLEEAAASSSE! Sick and tired of reading these political stuff and cops this and cops that and on here. This is a football thread for crying out loud. The sad part about it is the Mods that were supposed to enforced football talk are the main ones that's falling into this political crap talk.

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Didn't see anything different last night. Same Kaep that we've seen the last 2 years. Late on throws, forced 1 read, stare down receivers. If he had improved in these areas, I wouldn't care about the numbers. And all this with Kelly adjusting his offense for Kaep.

This....same ol' Kap. Wasn't impressed at all. He should've been lighting it up against backups.

Uh, he was also playing WITH backups. This is circular logic at its finest:

When Kap stinks against the backups (last week), he sucks and we need to get rid of him.

When Kap looks good against the backups, well, "they were backups" and he still sucks so we need to get rid of him. Nevermind hat he himself wasn't playing with the first team offense.

I would bet any amount of money that even if he lit it up against the starters, the conversation would have shifted to "well, it's only the preseason," so he sucks and let's get rid of him.

Not saying that he should be the starter or anything, but you can only take advantage of the opportunities you're given. And for a guy that, before last week, hasn't thrown a football in damn near a YEAR he looked pretty good.

Why is it so hard to just give him props?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Kap looked damn good last night. Making the right presnap reads, hitting RB's, going through progressions, throwing back shoulder throws.

Were you high. drunk or just a Kap homer? He had a 76.9 rating. Average that for a year and you are a bottom 5 QB. He did that against a team composed of a lot of guys who won't ever play a snap in the NFL again. When it is 3rd and 4th stringers versus the same a QB still has a big advantage. Those guys are a step slow and don't react as fast as 1's. They don't close as fast on open receivers and don't get to the QB once clear of blockers as well. Kap had a clean pocket most of the night, Christian Ponder the career third stringer at best outplayed him. Even though he sucks now big time I thought he would light up guys who aren't NFL talent, yet he averaged a measly 5.7 yards an attempt. Why anyone would say he looked good baffles the mind.

Here we go with more BS from bobs

if ratings is your liking then that Whalen TD catch and millers drop would have put him over 100 easy

Plus not one other QB on the 49ers put on a such a great successful time consuming drive that Kaep lead all preseason.

You want BS look in the mirror, if you want to factor in almost, what about the dropped pick six? Kap fan math is the funniest thing I
have ever seen. I was going to laugh if the Kap fans got excited about him lighting up 3rd stringers, now he is less than mediocre against them and they are excited. That has went from laughable to extremely baffling. Kap can do no wrong in the eyes of his fan club.

Originally posted by 60sFan:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Kap looked damn good last night. Making the right presnap reads, hitting RB's, going through progressions, throwing back shoulder throws.

ya uh damn good is an overexaggeration

i think he looked ok

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by BobS:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Kap looked damn good last night. Making the right presnap reads, hitting RB's, going through progressions, throwing back shoulder throws.

Were you high. drunk or just a Kap homer? He had a 76.9 rating. Average that for a year and you are a bottom 5 QB. He did that against a team composed of a lot of guys who won't ever play a snap in the NFL again. When it is 3rd and 4th stringers versus the same a QB still has a big advantage. Those guys are a step slow and don't react as fast as 1's. They don't close as fast on open receivers and don't get to the QB once clear of blockers as well. Kap had a clean pocket most of the night, Christian Ponder the career third stringer at best outplayed him. Even though he sucks now big time I thought he would light up guys who aren't NFL talent, yet he averaged a measly 5.7 yards an attempt. Why anyone would say he looked good baffles the mind.

Here we go with more BS from bobs

if ratings is your liking then that Whalen TD catch and millers drop would have put him over 100 easy

Plus not one other QB on the 49ers put on a such a great successful time consuming drive that Kaep lead all preseason.

You want BS look in the mirror, if you want to factor in almost, what about the dropped pick six? Kap fan math is the funniest thing I
have ever seen. I was going to laugh if the Kap fans got excited about him lighting up 3rd stringers, now he is less than mediocre against them and they are excited. That has went from laughable to extremely baffling. Kap can do no wrong in the eyes of his fan club.

Who says he did nothing wrong every QB does this in all games. While they were scrubs. He lit them up like no other QB has done on our roster with that first drive

I'm noting your flaws and weaknesses in watching evaluating NFL games.

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Didn't see anything different last night. Same Kaep that we've seen the last 2 years. Late on throws, forced 1 read, stare down receivers. If he had improved in these areas, I wouldn't care about the numbers. And all this with Kelly adjusting his offense for Kaep.

This....same ol' Kap. Wasn't impressed at all. He should've been lighting it up against backups.

Uh, he was also playing WITH backups. This is circular logic at its finest:

When Kap stinks against the backups (last week), he sucks and we need to get rid of him.

When Kap looks good against the backups, well, "they were backups" and he still sucks so we need to get rid of him. Nevermind hat he himself wasn't playing with the first team offense.

Not saying that he should be the starter or anything, but you can only take advantage of the opportunities you're given. And for a guy that, before last week, hasn't thrown a football in damn near a YEAR he looked pretty good.

Why is it so hard to just give him props?

He didn't look good, you are extremely biased. He averaged 5.7 yards per attempt and had a 76.9 rating, those are bottom feeder numbers. He did it throwing to guys who were pretty open and he had good protection. It wasn't against even backups, it was against guys who don't have NFL talent and will be cut they won't be backing up anyone. Kap led the team to 9 points, career third stringer Ponder led the team to 22 against the same group. As much as I think Kap sucks I even expected him to do better against San Diego because it was the last preseason game.

Originally posted by baltien:

Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Didn't see anything different last night. Same Kaep that we've seen the last 2 years. Late on throws, forced 1 read, stare down receivers. If he had improved in these areas, I wouldn't care about the numbers. And all this with Kelly adjusting his offense for Kaep.

This....same ol' Kap. Wasn't impressed at all. He should've been lighting it up against backups.

Uh, he was also playing WITH backups. This is circular logic at its finest:

When Kap stinks against the backups (last week), he sucks and we need to get rid of him.

When Kap looks good against the backups, well, "they were backups" and he still sucks so we need to get rid of him. Nevermind hat he himself wasn't playing with the first team offense.

I would bet any amount of money that even if he lit it up against the starters, the conversation would have shifted to "well, it's only the preseason," so he sucks and let's get rid of him.

Not saying that he should be the starter or anything, but you can only take advantage of the opportunities you're given. And for a guy that, before last week, hasn't thrown a football in damn near a YEAR he looked pretty good.

Why is it so hard to just give him props?

Well if that's the case. Than the same can be said about Ponder playing WITH backups and still lit it up, so going with your logic Ponder should be the backup QB, but yet people have a harder time giving him props for lighting up the same backups Kap couldn't. My only beef with Kap is, if the Niners are going to pay him almost 12 million dollars this season, then he better starts playing like a 12 million dollar QB, not a 12 million dollar backup with 12 million distractions.

Originally posted by Black24Razor:

Kap had a decent game but the Chargers were playing a very basic D with back ups. The throw he put on Dres at the 1 had some nice zip on it, but looked like it should have been picked. At this point, he is what he is... A back up QB.

So that means we have 2 backups playing for the starting position then... Not exactly a ringing endorsement that Kelly let it play out this far.

Originally posted by Irish40Niner:
So that means we have 2 backups playing for the starting position then... Not exactly a ringing endorsement that Kelly let it play out this far.

well i thought this was known before the qb compeition

All I'm saying is Thursday was the 2nd time Kap played live football in quite awhile and he played a lot better then his 1st time..not his fault he played back ups..id be more worried if he struggled against them then having a good appearance..yes the man has put a spot light on him with his actions abd train sure we all wish he didn't and just focused on football but what's done is done..I personally don't have faith in Gabbert so I expect Kap will be needed and hope he shows progression with every snap..(I'm not a Gabbert hater just don't see him as a starter tho I hope I'm wrong and he lights it up and becomes great id gladly admit I'm wrong and buy his jersey lol just want the niners to win)

Originally posted by BobS:

Because I don't watch through the eyes of a blind Kap homer like yourself? If my watching is so flawed how did I predict Kap's downfall pretty much before anyone here? That is fact. While you still think your hero is good the rest of the league showed how they felt about him when he demanded a trade. Even if he did light up scrubs for one drive that means nothing. What about all the guys in the preseason Hall of Fame who never took a snap in a regular season NFL game?

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am... I don't think that had as much to do with your superior football intellect as it did your dislike of Kap as a person and player.