49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by AlexCat49er:

How does Ryan's first year under Sarkesian compare to his first year under Shanahan?

His numbers are pretty much on line with his career numbers outside of his Uber year last year. I don't follow ATL that close, but my assumption was they were keeping Kyle's WCO and just switching playcallers. Sarkesian has WCO roots. When Kyle installed his offense in 2015 it was a change of styles from an Air Coryell to a WCO. In these situations you usually have some growing pains.

I'd assume that the verbiage and everything would remain. That wasn't the case in 2015. Going from a Coryell to a WCO is a total change in verbiage. They share similar plays, but the way they get there is different and that's usually what causes the struggles in the first year of a new system. Another example would be when Kyle left Washington.....they didn't switch systems. They stayed with a WCO and it really benefited Cousins in the long run.

It's also what helped us during our dynasty run. Walsh-Holmgren-Shanahan-Trestman-Moreniwhig-Knapp was all WCO Guys. Now the talent of the playcallers were obviously different, but the system remained.

Fran does analysis for the eagles and broke down a lot of Kyle's favorite play calls...so good clips on this thread...check if out

Another loss especially bad and it will be interesting to see how he handles the locker room. i do not think the players are buying into the tank job like alot of the fans are. sunday was the first time since maybe vernon that we saw players get into it on the sidelines and actually vernon was just mad by himself,. i can not remember when we had guys going at each other. bad optics. and just the tip of the ice berg if this thing continues. something interesting to monitor,

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Shot 1 - Kyle Shanahan & #49ers are going to try and attack #Eagles with a variety of pass concepts. A staple in his scheme? The Post-Cross pic.twitter.com/agUEzSllot

— Fran Duffy (@fduffy3) October 26, 2017

Fran does analysis for the eagles and broke down a lot of Kyle's favorite play calls...so good clips on this thread...check if out

The good ole Yankee route or Deep cross has been a staple of Kyle's offense and his Dad's/Kubiak's. You can pair it up with posts or corners.


Paired with a post


Paired with a corner-post type route


Paired with a corner out of 21 personnel


Paired with a corner out of 12 personnel play passing off of outside zone run

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Shot 1 - Kyle Shanahan & #49ers are going to try and attack #Eagles with a variety of pass concepts. A staple in his scheme? The Post-Cross pic.twitter.com/agUEzSllot

— Fran Duffy (@fduffy3) October 26, 2017

Fran does analysis for the eagles and broke down a lot of Kyle's favorite play calls...so good clips on this thread...check if out

Thanks for this refreshing post. now this is real football stuff we can talk about instead of the repetitive moan

Originally posted by Niners816:
HAHA.....how many made up names do you guys need

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Originally posted by 951NINER:
Kyle may not be looking as good as some of you thought but hey neither is Matty Ice and that ATL offense.

I loved the hire. However I didn't expect KS to turn us into a top 10 offense with Brian Hoyer & CJ Beathard. When his offense is fully installed, has a legit OL and a FQB, then we can see how good the offense can be.

Right now its all about roster turnover, developing young guys, accumulating talent in the offseason.

I still think KS was a fantastic hire by Jed.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 951NINER:

Kyle may not be looking as good as some of you thought but hey neither is Matty Ice and that ATL offense.

I loved the hire. However I didn't expect KS to turn us into a top 10 offense with Brian Hoyer & CJ Beathard. When his offense is fully installed, has a legit OL and a FQB, then we can see how good the offense can be.

Right now its all about roster turnover, developing young guys, accumulating talent in the offseason.

I still think KS was a fantastic hire by Jed.

Shanny will be fine. Lets get some toys in FA/draft and truly see where were at.

Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 951NINER:
Kyle may not be looking as good as some of you thought but hey neither is Matty Ice and that ATL offense.

I loved the hire. However I didn't expect KS to turn us into a top 10 offense with Brian Hoyer & CJ Beathard. When his offense is fully installed, has a legit OL and a FQB, then we can see how good the offense can be.

Right now its all about roster turnover, developing young guys, accumulating talent in the offseason.

I still think KS was a fantastic hire by Jed.

Shanny will be fine. Lets get some toys in FA/draft and truly see where were at.

Agreed

Shanny is a genius it will all come together sooner or later

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Shanny is a genius it will all come together sooner or later

we will all be gumming doughnuts at the old folks home when that happens

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Shanny is a genius it will all come together sooner or later

we will all be gumming doughnuts at the old folks home when that happens

What's your favorite donut? I want to be prepared to share with you some of my pecan twists.

Brilliant mind; he needs some experienced coaches on his staff. When Harbaugh was hired, the first thing I noticed that his coaching staff was stacked and had experience in almost every position. (except for I wanted Shaw instead of Roman as the OC)

I can't say the same for Kyle. Again, brilliant football mind but he needs a more experienced coaching staff.

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Brilliant mind; he needs some experienced coaches on his staff. When Harbaugh was hired, the first thing I noticed that his coaching staff was stacked and had experience in almost every position. (except for I wanted Shaw instead of Roman as the OC)

I can't say the same for Kyle. Again, brilliant football mind but he needs a more experienced coaching staff.

It could have played a factor in hiring late... Lets see if he decides to make any changes this off season.
Im sure well have a couple changes.

Here's a link to a short podcast with Shanahan talking about the current state of the team. Worth listening to for those of you who are actually interested in what Shanahan is thinking as opposed to making up your own stories about him.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/110785-shanahan-shares-one-beathards-learnable-mistakes-against-cowboys/