49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

We can argue overtime decisions all we want, but the game shouldn't even gotten there. On our last possession in regulation when we were in KC territory, the tracker had us at 96% chance of winning. Knowing who you're facing on the other side, the game plan should have been to ensure no time was left for Mahomes to make a plan. The same Mahomes that basically tied the game vs Buffalo in 20 seconds IIRC. The entire scheme should have been tailored to force KC to use its TOs and kick a potential GW FG. It was poor management giving Mahomes the ball back not only to drive to score but potentially win it.

How Kyle doesn't get blamed for this is beyond me. Blame the oline. Blame the receivers. Blame the QB. Whatever. Kyle should have known what KC was going to do defensively. Boy genius should have countered with quick reads or screens or whatever to make it easy. Instead he used the same stale playbook, and that in essence cost us the game.

Everyone sees it, except his fan base.

Very true. Kyle does have a tendency to make a lot of mistakes, especially in big games.

Okay let's assume that Kyle sucks like some seem to believe. Who you going to replace hm with? I haven't heard any viable suggestions . We can't resurrect Bill Walsh.

Originally posted by DrEll:
We can argue overtime decisions all we want, but the game shouldn't even gotten there. On our last possession in regulation when we were in KC territory, the tracker had us at 96% chance of winning. Knowing who you're facing on the other side, the game plan should have been to ensure no time was left for Mahomes to make a plan. The same Mahomes that basically tied the game vs Buffalo in 20 seconds IIRC. The entire scheme should have been tailored to force KC to use its TOs and kick a potential GW FG. It was poor management giving Mahomes the ball back not only to drive to score but potentially win it.

How Kyle doesn't get blamed for this is beyond me. Blame the oline. Blame the receivers. Blame the QB. Whatever. Kyle should have known what KC was going to do defensively. Boy genius should have countered with quick reads or screens or whatever to make it easy. Instead he used the same stale playbook, and that in essence cost us the game.

Everyone sees it, except his fan base.

Out of the two-minute warning, Kyle called a perfect blitz beater and had our best WR wide the f**k open on a pitch and catch slant. Purdy just didn't see it. That's game over and we're singing everyone's praises.

Fact of the matter is you were always going to blame Kyle for any loss, now you're just cherry-picking evidence to suit your narrative. Of course, you just cannot fathom an alternative to your world view (I find it comical that you can recognize cognitive dissonance in Trump fanatics, but not in yourself).

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Okay let's assume that Kyle sucks like some seem to believe. Who you going to replace hm with? I haven't heard any viable suggestions . We can't resurrect Bill Walsh.

Only name I've heard is PJ Fleck :).

Yes, it's unfortunate we have no one to replace him with. He comes up short way too often.

Originally posted by DrEll:
We can argue overtime decisions all we want, but the game shouldn't even gotten there. On our last possession in regulation when we were in KC territory, the tracker had us at 96% chance of winning. Knowing who you're facing on the other side, the game plan should have been to ensure no time was left for Mahomes to make a plan. The same Mahomes that basically tied the game vs Buffalo in 20 seconds IIRC. The entire scheme should have been tailored to force KC to use its TOs and kick a potential GW FG. It was poor management giving Mahomes the ball back not only to drive to score but potentially win it.

How Kyle doesn't get blamed for this is beyond me. Blame the oline. Blame the receivers. Blame the QB. Whatever. Kyle should have known what KC was going to do defensively. Boy genius should have countered with quick reads or screens or whatever to make it easy. Instead he used the same stale playbook, and that in essence cost us the game.

Everyone sees it, except his fan base.

I'm a Kyle fan and I agree with a lot of this. Just because you're unable to recognize Kyle's good qualities doesn't mean most of us aren't able to recognize his mistakes.

as much as you accuse others of being overly biased… your posts are often the most one-sided on the forum.

projecting 👍🏻

edit: and, as it turns out, exaggerating. Tracker was never at 96%

https://www.espn.com/nfl/game/_/gameId/401547378/49ers-chiefs

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Yes, it's unfortunate we have no one to replace him with. He comes up short way too often.

Yes truly unfortunate

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Yes, it's unfortunate we have no one to replace him with. He comes up short way too often.

31 Head coaches come up short every season. Back to back Super Bowl winners are a very rare occurrence. That means 'coming up short' is an annual event for many. We are in that rare air when this team is one of the few that is still playing when nearly all the other teams have packed up and gone home for the season. This will be the first season that Brock has an entire off season to work on his game and not be rehabbing from injuries. Can't wait to see what transpires.

I love the optimism !

Wow. Do people realize the coach who they want gone is the same coach who resurrected our franchise off of life support??? You can't deny Kyle is a top 3 NFL head coach. That's not good enough for you??? His squad almost beat Patrick Freaking Mahomes and the Chiefs with Jimmy Freaking Garoppolo at QB.

Kyle makes mistakes but to say he can't win big games is a ridiculously stupid statement. What the hell do you consider the NFC Championship Game??? Small potatoes I guess. No, Kyle hasn't won the biggest game. That's fair because it's true. However, I expect Brock learned a lot in defeat. When Brock reaches his next SB I believe the learning experience vs KC is what will help Brock and the 49ers come out on top vs Mahomes and the Chiefs (who I pray SF plays and beats for ring #6) or whoever else SF may face.

Maybe you would rather go back to the Mike Nolans, Dennis Ericksons and Jim Tomsulas of the coaching world. They were awesome weren't they??? Dope bro. Kyle has put this team together with the help of John Lynch, Peters and a host of others. Kyle has helped build an organization that works well as a unit and that can sustain long-term success. Kyle has helped develop Brock Purdy who looks a lot like a franchise QB. I bet you give Kyle no credit for developing Brock because they got "lucky" landing him, huh??? Because where Brock was drafted and how Brock has been developed are one in the same right???

Be careful what you wish for so called 49ers fans because one day you might get it. Kyle has done an amazing job so far. How can you say he hasn't??? Because your only measure of success is winning a SB??? I used to think like that after the 80s and 90s. Then I experienced the 2000s and had my attitude adjusted.

I say all this and I firmly believe Kyle has made mistakes in both SBs and the 49ers should have won both SBs (should have beat Baltimore too, thanks Jimbo) However, winning and losing a game comes down to execution on the field. We didn't execute. Brock had a man wide freaking open but unfortunately when teams know we have to throw the rock we can't pass protect. Did Kyle make the wrong call in OT??? Probably, but if we execute on the field it wouldn't have mattered.

It's funny because a lot of the critics on here and the complaints sound a lot like Eagles fans of the past complaining about Andy Reid when he was in Philly. You sound now just like they did then. Guess what though??? Nobody complains about Andy Reid anymore. I wonder why??? Oh yeah, Patrick Freaking Mahomes! Players win games. Coaches try to put you in the right spot and Kyle is one of the best at doing that, but no guys he's not perfect. Damn you Kyle! Be perfect!

Kyle Shanahan has been in two SBs as a head coach and he was beaten by one of the most successful coaches in NFL history and a guy who's probably going to go down as the greatest QB in NFL history in Patrick Mahomes (Joe is still my 🐐).

Before its all over with Kyle is going to win a ring, probably multiple rings. I'm completely confident in that statement. I'm as confident in that statement as you are that you think the dude is trash. As a logical thinking 49ers fan, living in reality, I don't understand how you can look at Kyle's body of work with the 49ers and think it's been anything but a success. Not the ultimate success but a success nonetheless.

But you mofos keep on hating and trusting your coach sucks. I'm sure that's super satisfying. I'm going to enjoy the winning seasons and exciting playoff runs and hope it leads to another championship. And if Kyle doesn't win a SB (but he will) I'll still be appreciative of the fact that the dude helped lift my favorite team out of the toilet and back into prominence.

The proof that Kyle is a hell of a football coach??? Honestly, how long do you think Kyle would be unemployed if we just let him walk??? You are probably right though, I mean it's not like there would be a bidding war for Kyle or anything. Probably wouldn't even get a phone call. Kyle hasn't shown he can identify and develop talent whatsoever. Look at the roster! All our Pro Bowlers and All Pros came from other organizations. Kyle can't identify or develop talented coaches either. The word is out. If you want a head coaching job don't join Kyle's staff. Lol, smh.

You can't reason with these people. Most of them are either trolls, have no clue about football other than what they hear from some dude with a "hot take" or are completely irrational. If you are upset with Kyle because he's made mistakes fine, he definitely has. If you blame him for both SB L's that's your right and you are entitled to your opinion. But to say Kyle is trash, can't win a big game or isn't one of the best coaches in the NFL, I have the right to believe you are delusional and probably don't know as much about football as you like to think you do.

I would like to add that I agree with some of the other members point of view. If you are going to be upset about Kyle being our coach at least come with a coach who you think would do a better job or be a better fit and why. Don't just come with problems but give some solutions. Otherwise you are just b***hing to b***h and with the "little" success the 49ers have had under Kyle, you come off a little spoiled, whiny and again, not very knowledgeable.

I fully support Kyle and think he has done an outstanding job to this point. Very successful and I expect the ultimate success will come to fruition as Brock continues to grow. I'm excited about where this organization is headed and I'm appreciative of the ride to get there. Kyle has helped provide an exciting brand of football. I loved Harbaugh but offensively it was hard to watch at times. Then you had the Chip Kelly, Mike Nolan teams which weren't only bad but boring. Boring is way worse than bad. Think about that for a minute and think back to those teams. If you honestly do that maybe it would provide you with a fresh perspective you desperately need regarding Kyle. Maybe just maybe you will come to appreciate the coach who turned our laughingstock of a team into a perennial SB contender. What a bum!

Kyle will help us win the SB this year. This team is still loaded and we do atleast one crazy mid season trade. Last years was a bust but who knows what Lynch will do this year. Plus we may draft some studs to help get us over the top.

If we fail again in 2024, we can start thinking about the ShanaLynch teams 2.0 moving forward because the current core will probably get blown up. I'm not giving up on this duo because although we didn't get a SB yet, they made us a respectable force for the foreseeable future. They've also seemingly found our next FQB for the next 10+ years if Brock is the truff

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Okay let's assume that Kyle sucks like some seem to believe. Who you going to replace hm with? I haven't heard any viable suggestions . We can't resurrect Bill Walsh.

I don't see many that think he sucks, and I'll just speak for myself but what I say is that he has some very glaring weaknesses that is the difference between him having 3 rings and him choking away 3 rings.

I think we will be relevant as long as he's coach but I just don't see us getting over the hump with him. Last year for example was the easiest road possible and we still failed despite being the most talented roster in the NFL. I all but guarantee you that it'll be much tougher next year.

I just want to win a damn Superbowl. I don't care who it is at HC or QB. I was a Jimmy guy but he failed. Brock is young and he deserves to run it back but he failed. Shanny is the only constant and we even added the best RB in the entire league and we still failed. Getting so close and failing because of inexcusable mistakes is tiresome. Some may love their 2nd place participation trophies but me? Just getting there don't mean s**t. Better than sucking but that's not saying much. We are no different than the Cowboys.

There's 25+ teams that would be fighting over themselves to hire Kyle if Jed was foolish enough to move on from him. Yet our fans are clamoring to get rid of him lol

Originally posted by illinois9er:
There's 25+ teams that would be fighting over themselves to hire Kyle if Jed was foolish enough to move on from him. Yet our fans are clamoring to get rid of him lol

We saw exactly what happens when you took Kyle away from Jimmy. Ir wasn't pretty.

Yet Kyle is labeled the choker because he couldn't make an exceedingly average QB beat an elite QB or beat 2 HOF coaches and the potential GOAT in the rematch with a 2nd year guy.

I'd love to hear what coach would've been 2-0 vs Andy Pat and Spags. Bill couldn't even beat Spags with an undefeated team.