49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Very good post! I have been waiting for this response hence me stating over and over again that Shanahan is responsible for EVERYTHING football related with our team. I had to throw in that little nugget, Good or Bad, for someone to catch on but I can take that.

If he's credited for CMC's TD's he's also responsible for the fumbles. If he's credited for the great offense, defense, and ST game plans he's also responsible for the ones that fail. If he's responsible for Robert Saleh, Mike McDaniel, and Demeco Ryans success then he is responsible for Steve Wilks failure.

NO EXCUSES

Well, Wilks was fired after the Superbowl. There is an argument to be made that it was *Wilk's* fault for letting Patrick score on that last drive vs Kyle. I dunno if you'll buy that argument though. Probably not.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We are the opposite of the Bill Walsh 80's 49ers. Back then our offense seemed almost automatic at the end of games and in those situations.

Andy Reid had his team coached up and ready to go when it turned into situational football. Reid wasn't drinking during the O.T rules meeting with the officials LOL.

Andy is also about 4 to 8-ish years to retirement. Kyle's 22 years younger than Reid and Reid needs overtime (same with Bill Belichick) to beat Kyle.

Andy beat him twice, didn't need overtime the first time. But he did have to come from behind to beat Kyle both times, so I guess thats how the Bengals fans feel about Bill Walsh; "HE had to come from behind to beat us in the super bowl, so we are great too!". What does age have to do with anything from a coaching standpoint?

The Rams coach is only 38 years old and he has already won a super bowl. And he had to do it at the end of the game in come back fashion. Now I believe that game was rigged but hey, he won the super bowl LOL.

Age is a big factor favoring Kyle vs Reid and Bellichick. Bill Bellichick didn't even get to his first superbowl until age 49. Reid didn't get to his first superbowl till age 49, and guess what - he lost that game.

Kyle's been to three superbowls, and he's *still* 4 years younger that both coaches currently when compared to their (Reid and Bellichick's) ages when they reached their respective *first* superbowls.

P.s. Bill Walsh didn't get to his first superbowl till age 50.

See; Sean McVay & Mike Tomlin.

They both won it at 36 years old.

Walsh got his first HC job at 47, so he got right to it.

Sean and Tomlin also lost a super bowls. Kyle dominates Sean and Tomlin's not sniffed a Superbowl in more than a decade.

Kyle also dominated McVay in the regular season, yet McVay has a ring.

Kyle is a great regular season Head Coach at this point. He's also good in the playoffs, until...

I think Kyle is going to be - eventually - a fine Super Bowl winning head coach. I just think that, because I'm an optimist. I also think that because he's getting better and better every year. He's gotten closer and closer in each Superbowl. I'm sure that's *not* going to make you any feel better, but it does make *me* feel better.

Only reason McVay even won is because s**tty Jimmy was playing with a thumb and shoulder injury in the NFCC…but you know players have zero impact on winning and losing. That victory was solely because of McVay.

Who chose Jimmy, and who put him in with the bad thumb?

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
I know what you mean man, I watched Bill Walsh take a 2-14 ('79) team to super bowl champions ("81) in 2 years. This was back when football was tough and offered no special protections to players including QB's. There was no such thing as free agency the way we know it today, so he had to build through the draft and come up with schemes and concepts and drill it into the guys around him. The draft was like 2 million rounds long and he chose great players like Dwight Clark (2x Super Bowl Champion) in the 10th round and Jesse Sapolu (4x Super Bowl Champion) in the 11th round. Even when Coach Walsh left the team they continued to win because his hand picked successor kept winning. The team one for nearly 2 decades!!!

Thats the 49ers standard, and thats what we will always be compared to. This new "almost won" culture is exactly what Coach Walsh guided guys away from. Its a new day, but the standard doesn't change.

Oh, and Walsh made it look easy.

Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh had scheme advantages. Lombardi picked a lot of great African American players on his team when most teams shied away from playing minorities during those days. Walsh took advantage of the new passing rules and revolutionized the passing game. Kyle's father had a scheme advantage by melding the WCO with the Outside zone. Kyle - I think - is going to advance football further with Brock, possibly the way the old greats did in the past. I think he has the brains for it, and he has the QB that can operate any offensive revolution that Kyle could come up with. We shall see.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We are the opposite of the Bill Walsh 80's 49ers. Back then our offense seemed almost automatic at the end of games and in those situations.

Andy Reid had his team coached up and ready to go when it turned into situational football. Reid wasn't drinking during the O.T rules meeting with the officials LOL.

Andy is also about 4 to 8-ish years to retirement. Kyle's 22 years younger than Reid and Reid needs overtime (same with Bill Belichick) to beat Kyle.

Andy beat him twice, didn't need overtime the first time. But he did have to come from behind to beat Kyle both times, so I guess thats how the Bengals fans feel about Bill Walsh; "HE had to come from behind to beat us in the super bowl, so we are great too!". What does age have to do with anything from a coaching standpoint?

The Rams coach is only 38 years old and he has already won a super bowl. And he had to do it at the end of the game in come back fashion. Now I believe that game was rigged but hey, he won the super bowl LOL.

Age is a big factor favoring Kyle vs Reid and Bellichick. Bill Bellichick didn't even get to his first superbowl until age 49. Reid didn't get to his first superbowl till age 49, and guess what - he lost that game.

Kyle's been to three superbowls, and he's *still* 4 years younger that both coaches currently when compared to their (Reid and Bellichick's) ages when they reached their respective *first* superbowls.

P.s. Bill Walsh didn't get to his first superbowl till age 50.

See; Sean McVay & Mike Tomlin.

They both won it at 36 years old.

Walsh got his first HC job at 47, so he got right to it.

Sean and Tomlin also lost a super bowls. Kyle dominates Sean and Tomlin's not sniffed a Superbowl in more than a decade.

Kyle also dominated McVay in the regular season, yet McVay has a ring.

Kyle is a great regular season Head Coach at this point. He's also good in the playoffs, until...

I think Kyle is going to be - eventually - a fine Super Bowl winning head coach. I just think that, because I'm an optimist. I also think that because he's getting better and better every year. He's gotten closer and closer in each Superbowl. I'm sure that's *not* going to make you any feel better, but it does make *me* feel better.

Only reason McVay even won is because s**tty Jimmy was playing with a thumb and shoulder injury in the NFCC…but you know players have zero impact on winning and losing. That victory was solely because of McVay.

Who chose Jimmy, and who put him in with the bad thumb?

he had to play with that thumb cuz the other option was Turd Ferguson

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he had to play with that thumb cuz the other option was Turd Ferguson

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We are the opposite of the Bill Walsh 80's 49ers. Back then our offense seemed almost automatic at the end of games and in those situations.

Andy Reid had his team coached up and ready to go when it turned into situational football. Reid wasn't drinking during the O.T rules meeting with the officials LOL.

Andy is also about 4 to 8-ish years to retirement. Kyle's 22 years younger than Reid and Reid needs overtime (same with Bill Belichick) to beat Kyle.

Andy beat him twice, didn't need overtime the first time. But he did have to come from behind to beat Kyle both times, so I guess thats how the Bengals fans feel about Bill Walsh; "HE had to come from behind to beat us in the super bowl, so we are great too!". What does age have to do with anything from a coaching standpoint?

The Rams coach is only 38 years old and he has already won a super bowl. And he had to do it at the end of the game in come back fashion. Now I believe that game was rigged but hey, he won the super bowl LOL.

Age is a big factor favoring Kyle vs Reid and Bellichick. Bill Bellichick didn't even get to his first superbowl until age 49. Reid didn't get to his first superbowl till age 49, and guess what - he lost that game.

Kyle's been to three superbowls, and he's *still* 4 years younger that both coaches currently when compared to their (Reid and Bellichick's) ages when they reached their respective *first* superbowls.

P.s. Bill Walsh didn't get to his first superbowl till age 50.

See; Sean McVay & Mike Tomlin.

They both won it at 36 years old.

Walsh got his first HC job at 47, so he got right to it.

Sean and Tomlin also lost a super bowls. Kyle dominates Sean and Tomlin's not sniffed a Superbowl in more than a decade.

Kyle also dominated McVay in the regular season, yet McVay has a ring.

Kyle is a great regular season Head Coach at this point. He's also good in the playoffs, until...

I think Kyle is going to be - eventually - a fine Super Bowl winning head coach. I just think that, because I'm an optimist. I also think that because he's getting better and better every year. He's gotten closer and closer in each Superbowl. I'm sure that's *not* going to make you any feel better, but it does make *me* feel better.

Only reason McVay even won is because s**tty Jimmy was playing with a thumb and shoulder injury in the NFCC…but you know players have zero impact on winning and losing. That victory was solely because of McVay.

Who chose Jimmy, and who put him in with the bad thumb?

he had to play with that thumb cuz the other option was Turd Ferguson

Another option could have been Patrick Mahomes, but Kyle liked Beathard more.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he had to play with that thumb cuz the other option was Turd Ferguson

Turd Ferguson could've missed every open WR in the nfc title game too and then maybe Jimmy would've gotten us something in a trade.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he had to play with that thumb cuz the other option was Turd Ferguson

Turd Ferguson could've missed every open WR in the nfc title game too and then maybe Jimmy would've gotten us something in a trade.

as usual your logic is
against Donald, Von and Ramsey he would have looked so bad, we would be begging JG to come back, which is not far from what happened anyway.. right?

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We are the opposite of the Bill Walsh 80's 49ers. Back then our offense seemed almost automatic at the end of games and in those situations.

Andy Reid had his team coached up and ready to go when it turned into situational football. Reid wasn't drinking during the O.T rules meeting with the officials LOL.

Andy is also about 4 to 8-ish years to retirement. Kyle's 22 years younger than Reid and Reid needs overtime (same with Bill Belichick) to beat Kyle.

Andy beat him twice, didn't need overtime the first time. But he did have to come from behind to beat Kyle both times, so I guess thats how the Bengals fans feel about Bill Walsh; "HE had to come from behind to beat us in the super bowl, so we are great too!". What does age have to do with anything from a coaching standpoint?

The Rams coach is only 38 years old and he has already won a super bowl. And he had to do it at the end of the game in come back fashion. Now I believe that game was rigged but hey, he won the super bowl LOL.

Age is a big factor favoring Kyle vs Reid and Bellichick. Bill Bellichick didn't even get to his first superbowl until age 49. Reid didn't get to his first superbowl till age 49, and guess what - he lost that game.

Kyle's been to three superbowls, and he's *still* 4 years younger that both coaches currently when compared to their (Reid and Bellichick's) ages when they reached their respective *first* superbowls.

P.s. Bill Walsh didn't get to his first superbowl till age 50.

See; Sean McVay & Mike Tomlin.

They both won it at 36 years old.

Walsh got his first HC job at 47, so he got right to it.

Sean and Tomlin also lost a super bowls. Kyle dominates Sean and Tomlin's not sniffed a Superbowl in more than a decade.

Kyle also dominated McVay in the regular season, yet McVay has a ring.

Kyle is a great regular season Head Coach at this point. He's also good in the playoffs, until...

I think Kyle is going to be - eventually - a fine Super Bowl winning head coach. I just think that, because I'm an optimist. I also think that because he's getting better and better every year. He's gotten closer and closer in each Superbowl. I'm sure that's *not* going to make you any feel better, but it does make *me* feel better.

Only reason McVay even won is because s**tty Jimmy was playing with a thumb and shoulder injury in the NFCC…but you know players have zero impact on winning and losing. That victory was solely because of McVay.

Who chose Jimmy, and who put him in with the bad thumb?

he had to play with that thumb cuz the other option was Turd Ferguson

Another option could have been Patrick Mahomes, but Kyle liked Beathard more.

Damn you're stupid lmao

This isn't just about Kyle, but your other takes. You still think Kap should be a starting QB in the nfl

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
We are the opposite of the Bill Walsh 80's 49ers. Back then our offense seemed almost automatic at the end of games and in those situations.

Andy Reid had his team coached up and ready to go when it turned into situational football. Reid wasn't drinking during the O.T rules meeting with the officials LOL.

Andy is also about 4 to 8-ish years to retirement. Kyle's 22 years younger than Reid and Reid needs overtime (same with Bill Belichick) to beat Kyle.

Andy beat him twice, didn't need overtime the first time. But he did have to come from behind to beat Kyle both times, so I guess thats how the Bengals fans feel about Bill Walsh; "HE had to come from behind to beat us in the super bowl, so we are great too!". What does age have to do with anything from a coaching standpoint?

The Rams coach is only 38 years old and he has already won a super bowl. And he had to do it at the end of the game in come back fashion. Now I believe that game was rigged but hey, he won the super bowl LOL.

Age is a big factor favoring Kyle vs Reid and Bellichick. Bill Bellichick didn't even get to his first superbowl until age 49. Reid didn't get to his first superbowl till age 49, and guess what - he lost that game.

Kyle's been to three superbowls, and he's *still* 4 years younger that both coaches currently when compared to their (Reid and Bellichick's) ages when they reached their respective *first* superbowls.

P.s. Bill Walsh didn't get to his first superbowl till age 50.

See; Sean McVay & Mike Tomlin.

They both won it at 36 years old.

Walsh got his first HC job at 47, so he got right to it.

Sean and Tomlin also lost a super bowls. Kyle dominates Sean and Tomlin's not sniffed a Superbowl in more than a decade.

Kyle also dominated McVay in the regular season, yet McVay has a ring.

Kyle is a great regular season Head Coach at this point. He's also good in the playoffs, until...

I think Kyle is going to be - eventually - a fine Super Bowl winning head coach. I just think that, because I'm an optimist. I also think that because he's getting better and better every year. He's gotten closer and closer in each Superbowl. I'm sure that's *not* going to make you any feel better, but it does make *me* feel better.

Only reason McVay even won is because s**tty Jimmy was playing with a thumb and shoulder injury in the NFCC…but you know players have zero impact on winning and losing. That victory was solely because of McVay.

Who chose Jimmy, and who put him in with the bad thumb?

he had to play with that thumb cuz the other option was Turd Ferguson

Another option could have been Patrick Mahomes, but Kyle liked Beathard more.

Damn you're stupid lmao

This isn't just about Kyle, but your other takes. You still think Kap should be a starting QB in the nfl

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
he had to play with that thumb cuz the other option was Turd Ferguson

Turd Ferguson could've missed every open WR in the nfc title game too and then maybe Jimmy would've gotten us something in a trade.

as usual your logic is
against Donald, Von and Ramsey he would have looked so bad, we would be begging JG to come back, which is not far from what happened anyway.. right?

Don't call people out on logic. Have you seen your posts in the NBA, MLB, Politics threads? You get mocked in every thread by everyone lmao

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Shanahan is the Head Coach & the O.C, who put Burford (who was unprepared) out on the field in that situation?

I don't know why you see Andy Reid as a genius because his O-Line was holding? There are many other things to point in that regard. Nah, I know you were being sarcastic LOL

For f's sakes man are you serious right now? You act like Shanahan subbed Burford in for that play specifically.

Feliciano won the starting job for a reason. Feliciano got hurt - something I'm sure you'll blame on Shanahan for putting him in harms way or not having him work on his body well enough.

And btw Feliciano WAS prepared. He owned up to doing his own thing and going with his gut. A coach cannot control what a player does in the heat of the moment. Just like coaches can't count on QBs taking bad sacks, players fumbling the ball.

If anything you'd think the defense/Bosa saying they weren't prepared for Mahomes keeper on 4th down in OT, while Trent Williams is calling for it on the sideline would be a coaching lack of prep...something I'm sure you'd blame on Shanahan as the HC. You think Andy Reid worries about the defensive gameplan?

?

I think you mean Burford?

Excuses tend to make facts blurry.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Do you see any non-fact in my post that you are responding too? (Strawman)

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Shanahan is the Head Coach & the O.C, who put Burford (who was unprepared) out on the field in that situation?

I don't know why you see Andy Reid as a genius because his O-Line was holding? There are many other things to point in that regard. Nah, I know you were being sarcastic LOL

For f's sakes man are you serious right now? You act like Shanahan subbed Burford in for that play specifically.

Feliciano won the starting job for a reason. Feliciano got hurt - something I'm sure you'll blame on Shanahan for putting him in harms way or not having him work on his body well enough.

And btw Feliciano WAS prepared. He owned up to doing his own thing and going with his gut. A coach cannot control what a player does in the heat of the moment. Just like coaches can't count on QBs taking bad sacks, players fumbling the ball.

If anything you'd think the defense/Bosa saying they weren't prepared for Mahomes keeper on 4th down in OT, while Trent Williams is calling for it on the sideline would be a coaching lack of prep...something I'm sure you'd blame on Shanahan as the HC. You think Andy Reid worries about the defensive gameplan?

?

I think you mean Burford?

Excuses tend to make facts blurry.

You know very well I meant Burford but chose to hone in on the error and ignore the rest of the post because it shows how ridiculous your take was.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Do you see any non-fact in my post that you are responding too? (Strawman)

I don't think it's a fact that Kyle liked Beathard more than Mahomes. That's a pretty ridiculous assumption with the only supporting evidence being a report from Peter King (I believe) that said Beathard was the only QB Kyle was willing to take in the draft. Even if that report were true, it's not actually a confirmation that he liked Beathard more than a player who was much more costly in terms of draft picks.