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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Nov 30, 2024 at 9:27 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is

I say the same about Kyle... I want nothing more in my sports life to be proven wrong but I don't think I am. The evidence is monumental. I mean there's always a chance Shanny meets someone who's a worse choke artist than him but I doubt it. Even getting to the Superbowl we've been very fortunate. I'm a Jimmy Stan but once I realized he wasn't getting it done, It was time to move on. Even though, like Kyle he's shown he can get us there.
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Nov 30, 2024 at 9:35 PM ]
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is

I say the same about Kyle... I want nothing more in my sports life to be proven wrong but I don't think I am. The evidence is monumental. I mean there's always a chance Shanny meets someone who's a worse choke artist than him but I doubt it. Even getting to the Superbowl we've been very fortunate. I'm a Jimmy Stan but once I realized he wasn't getting it done, It was time to move on. Even though, like Kyle he's shown he can get us there.
You say that it's on Kyle. But it's only cause he's in charge. When you watch film, you see the real mistakes by the players.

I've watched a lot of coaches and the ones who win SBs are the ones who had a generational QB. Imagine having a coach who can get you to a SB without a generational QB.. we have that guy.

I will take my chances with Kyle and hope to get a good QB than trying to find another coach and find a generational QB. Impossible odds on the later
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is

I say the same about Kyle... I want nothing more in my sports life to be proven wrong but I don't think I am. The evidence is monumental. I mean there's always a chance Shanny meets someone who's a worse choke artist than him but I doubt it. Even getting to the Superbowl we've been very fortunate. I'm a Jimmy Stan but once I realized he wasn't getting it done, It was time to move on. Even though, like Kyle he's shown he can get us there.
You say that it's on Kyle. But it's only cause he's in charge. When you watch film, you see the real mistakes by the players.

I've watched a lot of coaches and the ones who win SBs are the ones who had a generational QB. Imagine having a coach who can get you to a SB without a generational QB.. we have that guy.

I will take my chances with Kyle and hope to get a good QB than trying to find another coach and find a generational QB. Impossible odds on the later

Not even sure generational QBs even exist anymore. Tons of QBs have big time measurables & get top training since 8th grade. Mahomes probably was generational but most missed it with him going 10th. Joe Burrow went #1 and is a top 5 QB when healthy but he wasn't seen as generational coming out. Trevor Lawrence and Caleb Williams were considered generational and they need the right system as much as any other QB. Andrew Luck was the last one to just have worked out and he had to retire at 29.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is

I say the same about Kyle... I want nothing more in my sports life to be proven wrong but I don't think I am. The evidence is monumental. I mean there's always a chance Shanny meets someone who's a worse choke artist than him but I doubt it. Even getting to the Superbowl we've been very fortunate. I'm a Jimmy Stan but once I realized he wasn't getting it done, It was time to move on. Even though, like Kyle he's shown he can get us there.
You say that it's on Kyle. But it's only cause he's in charge. When you watch film, you see the real mistakes by the players.

I've watched a lot of coaches and the ones who win SBs are the ones who had a generational QB. Imagine having a coach who can get you to a SB without a generational QB.. we have that guy.

I will take my chances with Kyle and hope to get a good QB than trying to find another coach and find a generational QB. Impossible odds on the later

I'm beating a dead horse here but a generational QB like Mahomes, potentially the GOAT was given the ball last in OT to outright win the game by Kyle. An extremely stupid decision imo. I know you won't agree but it was inexcusably stupid to me. We wanted to get the ball third?! Lol we were never getting the ball back no matter what. That gave Mahomes an extra down on 4th while we had to settle for a FG on 4th. Kyle the offensive genius literally took the ball out of the offenses hands and relied on our defense against generational talent.

Chiefs were going for two no matter what to win the game when Kyle gifted(I'm a believer he didn't know the rule tbh) Mahomes his championship. Instead of Kyle making that decision, he gave Reid and his great QB that decision.

A generational QB drive down and won it because Kyle handcuffed himself. But if Kyle doesn't handcuff himself his offense should have had 4 downs, while keeping Mahomes to 3. Again I know that's rehashing an old argument but if we're talking generational talent you don't give Michael Jordan or Kobe the final shot if you have the choice. That's just ridiculously stupid and that's what Shanny did with Mahomes. Look at Buffalo earlier this year. They had 4th and 2 and decided that a FG wasn't enough because they were certain Mahomes would score. So instead of gift wrapping Mahomes the ball they went for it and won. It's common sense.
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I'm beating a dead horse here but a generational QB like Mahomes, potentially the GOAT was given the ball last in OT to outright win the game by Kyle. An extremely stupid decision imo. I know you won't agree but it was inexcusably stupid to me. We wanted to get the ball third?! Lol we were never getting the ball back no matter what. That gave Mahomes an extra down on 4th while we had to settle for a FG on 4th. Kyle the offensive genius literally took the ball out of the offenses hands and relied on our defense against generational talent.

Chiefs were going for two no matter what to win the game when Kyle gifted(I'm a believer he didn't know the rule tbh) Mahomes his championship. Instead of Kyle making that decision, he gave Reid and his great QB that decision.

A generational QB drive down and won it because Kyle handcuffed himself. But if Kyle doesn't handcuff himself his offense should have had 4 downs, while keeping Mahomes to 3. Again I know that's rehashing an old argument but if we're talking generational talent you don't give Michael Jordan or Kobe the final shot if you have the choice. That's just ridiculously stupid and that's what Shanny did with Mahomes. Look at Buffalo earlier this year. They had 4th and 2 and decided that a FG wasn't enough because they were certain Mahomes would score. So instead of gift wrapping Mahomes the ball they went for it and won. It's common sense.
Now that I think about it again, that format sounds almost as inherently bad as the prior "first score wins" format. I guess it's never going to be fair due to the coin toss. Maybe they should award the receive/defer decision to the team that won the head-to-head matchup (if applicable) or point differential or some type of tie-breaker. Or how about two possessions each unless you score off of or immediately after a turnover.
[ Edited by 49erKing on Dec 1, 2024 at 7:13 AM ]
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is

I say the same about Kyle... I want nothing more in my sports life to be proven wrong but I don't think I am. The evidence is monumental. I mean there's always a chance Shanny meets someone who's a worse choke artist than him but I doubt it. Even getting to the Superbowl we've been very fortunate. I'm a Jimmy Stan but once I realized he wasn't getting it done, It was time to move on. Even though, like Kyle he's shown he can get us there.
You say that it's on Kyle. But it's only cause he's in charge. When you watch film, you see the real mistakes by the players.

I've watched a lot of coaches and the ones who win SBs are the ones who had a generational QB. Imagine having a coach who can get you to a SB without a generational QB.. we have that guy.

I will take my chances with Kyle and hope to get a good QB than trying to find another coach and find a generational QB. Impossible odds on the later

I'm beating a dead horse here but a generational QB like Mahomes, potentially the GOAT was given the ball last in OT to outright win the game by Kyle. An extremely stupid decision imo. I know you won't agree but it was inexcusably stupid to me. We wanted to get the ball third?! Lol we were never getting the ball back no matter what. That gave Mahomes an extra down on 4th while we had to settle for a FG on 4th. Kyle the offensive genius literally took the ball out of the offenses hands and relied on our defense against generational talent.

Chiefs were going for two no matter what to win the game when Kyle gifted(I'm a believer he didn't know the rule tbh) Mahomes his championship. Instead of Kyle making that decision, he gave Reid and his great QB that decision.

A generational QB drive down and won it because Kyle handcuffed himself. But if Kyle doesn't handcuff himself his offense should have had 4 downs, while keeping Mahomes to 3. Again I know that's rehashing an old argument but if we're talking generational talent you don't give Michael Jordan or Kobe the final shot if you have the choice. That's just ridiculously stupid and that's what Shanny did with Mahomes. Look at Buffalo earlier this year. They had 4th and 2 and decided that a FG wasn't enough because they were certain Mahomes would score. So instead of gift wrapping Mahomes the ball they went for it and won. It's common sense.
If we did get the ball second and couldn't score a TD you would be upset still

again, another ST mistake happened and it costed us. Do others blame harbaugh for Kyle Williams fumbles?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is

I say the same about Kyle... I want nothing more in my sports life to be proven wrong but I don't think I am. The evidence is monumental. I mean there's always a chance Shanny meets someone who's a worse choke artist than him but I doubt it. Even getting to the Superbowl we've been very fortunate. I'm a Jimmy Stan but once I realized he wasn't getting it done, It was time to move on. Even though, like Kyle he's shown he can get us there.
You say that it's on Kyle. But it's only cause he's in charge. When you watch film, you see the real mistakes by the players.

I've watched a lot of coaches and the ones who win SBs are the ones who had a generational QB. Imagine having a coach who can get you to a SB without a generational QB.. we have that guy.

I will take my chances with Kyle and hope to get a good QB than trying to find another coach and find a generational QB. Impossible odds on the later

I'm beating a dead horse here but a generational QB like Mahomes, potentially the GOAT was given the ball last in OT to outright win the game by Kyle. An extremely stupid decision imo. I know you won't agree but it was inexcusably stupid to me. We wanted to get the ball third?! Lol we were never getting the ball back no matter what. That gave Mahomes an extra down on 4th while we had to settle for a FG on 4th. Kyle the offensive genius literally took the ball out of the offenses hands and relied on our defense against generational talent.

Chiefs were going for two no matter what to win the game when Kyle gifted(I'm a believer he didn't know the rule tbh) Mahomes his championship. Instead of Kyle making that decision, he gave Reid and his great QB that decision.

A generational QB drive down and won it because Kyle handcuffed himself. But if Kyle doesn't handcuff himself his offense should have had 4 downs, while keeping Mahomes to 3. Again I know that's rehashing an old argument but if we're talking generational talent you don't give Michael Jordan or Kobe the final shot if you have the choice. That's just ridiculously stupid and that's what Shanny did with Mahomes. Look at Buffalo earlier this year. They had 4th and 2 and decided that a FG wasn't enough because they were certain Mahomes would score. So instead of gift wrapping Mahomes the ball they went for it and won. It's common sense.
If we did get the ball second and couldn't score a TD you would be upset still

again, another ST mistake happened and it costed us. Do others blame harbaugh for Kyle Williams fumbles?
Yes 100% I blame Kyle for the numerous uncountable mistakes that his team has historically had due to the team not being mentally prepared. Now one or two things like a Kyle Williams(Luter being a moron) fumble I understand but missed interceptions, fumbles in the redzone, missed throws to put the game away, missed XP's, allowing Mahomes to miraculously scramble and hit a receiver on what? 3rd and 15? Defense intercepting the ball in KC territory then penalties and not giving the ball to CMC. Mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake in all three phases is eventually on the HC. Choke job after choke job like the 3 we've already seen in 11 games this year. We're the players at fault? Sure but so is the head coach. You guys seem to not understand what a Head Coach is.

And if we didn't score, we still lose but we had the ball in our hands to win it and control OUR OWN destiny. I would still not be happy but to put the ball in Mahomes hands to control HIS DESTINY was flat out dumb coaching. Sheer stupidity. Again, I'm certain Kyle didn't even know the rule as the players were unaware themselves. That's crazy... I mean, at least he was able to go there and party and set an amazing example of how serous he was about it. I'm not saying that was a huge deal but him getting wasted does show where his priorities were. He was there to party. Maybe I'm wrong but I've never seen a coach get completely s**t faced like Kyle did. Again, did that lose us the SB and was it the biggest deal? No, but to me it does show a bit of unseriousness and that type of unseriousness reflected to the teams mistakes. The party should have been after the game... Not the week of.
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Dec 1, 2024 at 8:45 AM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is

I say the same about Kyle... I want nothing more in my sports life to be proven wrong but I don't think I am. The evidence is monumental. I mean there's always a chance Shanny meets someone who's a worse choke artist than him but I doubt it. Even getting to the Superbowl we've been very fortunate. I'm a Jimmy Stan but once I realized he wasn't getting it done, It was time to move on. Even though, like Kyle he's shown he can get us there.
You say that it's on Kyle. But it's only cause he's in charge. When you watch film, you see the real mistakes by the players.

I've watched a lot of coaches and the ones who win SBs are the ones who had a generational QB. Imagine having a coach who can get you to a SB without a generational QB.. we have that guy.

I will take my chances with Kyle and hope to get a good QB than trying to find another coach and find a generational QB. Impossible odds on the later

I'm beating a dead horse here but a generational QB like Mahomes, potentially the GOAT was given the ball last in OT to outright win the game by Kyle. An extremely stupid decision imo. I know you won't agree but it was inexcusably stupid to me. We wanted to get the ball third?! Lol we were never getting the ball back no matter what. That gave Mahomes an extra down on 4th while we had to settle for a FG on 4th. Kyle the offensive genius literally took the ball out of the offenses hands and relied on our defense against generational talent.

Chiefs were going for two no matter what to win the game when Kyle gifted(I'm a believer he didn't know the rule tbh) Mahomes his championship. Instead of Kyle making that decision, he gave Reid and his great QB that decision.

A generational QB drive down and won it because Kyle handcuffed himself. But if Kyle doesn't handcuff himself his offense should have had 4 downs, while keeping Mahomes to 3. Again I know that's rehashing an old argument but if we're talking generational talent you don't give Michael Jordan or Kobe the final shot if you have the choice. That's just ridiculously stupid and that's what Shanny did with Mahomes. Look at Buffalo earlier this year. They had 4th and 2 and decided that a FG wasn't enough because they were certain Mahomes would score. So instead of gift wrapping Mahomes the ball they went for it and won. It's common sense.
If we did get the ball second and couldn't score a TD you would be upset still

again, another ST mistake happened and it costed us. Do others blame harbaugh for Kyle Williams fumbles?

Yes, people blame Harbaugh for Kyle Williams being in the game, as they should. Kyle Williams had catching issues that Harbaugh and staff never addressed. The true mistake was letting Ted Ginn Jr. walk in free agency.
What Kyle did in the Super Bowl SHOULD HAVE BEEN a fireable offense. It wasn't…..ok. However, his answer to why Mason can't line up with CMC is definitely fireable, especially considering our injury situation. "Well, we don't run that kind of thing here".
just another example of Kyle being so set to his GD scheme and not playing our best options, even when injuries should warrant it.
Kyle has wasted what should have been another 49er dynasty and he's gotta go. I do t give a crap how many teams would take him. If they want a proven choke artist, Kyle is their guy and they can have him.
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Lol speaking of, I remember how it was completely ok to blame the QB even after having one of the most successful careers in 49ers history(top 5ish) yet its blasphemy to blame the HC for literally anything at all. Can someone honestly explain the sheer hypocrisy to me please? That's an honest question.

The same people that used to be negative and whiny after wins because a QB didn't have air yards are now telling others that its wrong to complain about 5-6. It's nothing more than double standards.
It's all in the film.. the emperor jimmy had no clothes

He won games though and got us to the Superbowl... I thought that's all that mattered? Right? Is that not the argument y'all are making the last while?

When in reality, though Jimmy was one of the most successful QBs in our history he failed when it mattered the most and even as a fan I was happy he was gone. Unlike you hypocrites(sorry to be blunt butv it is hypocrisy)I hold Shanny to the same standards. Winning games is cool and all but 2nd place is absolutely nothing to be proud of. The goal is to win Super Bowls. Jimmy didn't get it done, Shanny isn't getting it done. Both have won a lot of games even though Shanny was bottom tier and had one of the worst records in the entire NFL before Jimmy helped turn the team around.
As a 49er fan and season ticket holder, I loved the winning and the chances to be a champion. I watched the last 3 SBs live.

but also as a football fan, the more I watched the more I knew Alex, Kaep, jimmy would need help from other areas to get us over the hump.

it is what it is

I say the same about Kyle... I want nothing more in my sports life to be proven wrong but I don't think I am. The evidence is monumental. I mean there's always a chance Shanny meets someone who's a worse choke artist than him but I doubt it. Even getting to the Superbowl we've been very fortunate. I'm a Jimmy Stan but once I realized he wasn't getting it done, It was time to move on. Even though, like Kyle he's shown he can get us there.
You say that it's on Kyle. But it's only cause he's in charge. When you watch film, you see the real mistakes by the players.

I've watched a lot of coaches and the ones who win SBs are the ones who had a generational QB. Imagine having a coach who can get you to a SB without a generational QB.. we have that guy.

I will take my chances with Kyle and hope to get a good QB than trying to find another coach and find a generational QB. Impossible odds on the later

I'm beating a dead horse here but a generational QB like Mahomes, potentially the GOAT was given the ball last in OT to outright win the game by Kyle. An extremely stupid decision imo. I know you won't agree but it was inexcusably stupid to me. We wanted to get the ball third?! Lol we were never getting the ball back no matter what. That gave Mahomes an extra down on 4th while we had to settle for a FG on 4th. Kyle the offensive genius literally took the ball out of the offenses hands and relied on our defense against generational talent.

Chiefs were going for two no matter what to win the game when Kyle gifted(I'm a believer he didn't know the rule tbh) Mahomes his championship. Instead of Kyle making that decision, he gave Reid and his great QB that decision.

A generational QB drive down and won it because Kyle handcuffed himself. But if Kyle doesn't handcuff himself his offense should have had 4 downs, while keeping Mahomes to 3. Again I know that's rehashing an old argument but if we're talking generational talent you don't give Michael Jordan or Kobe the final shot if you have the choice. That's just ridiculously stupid and that's what Shanny did with Mahomes. Look at Buffalo earlier this year. They had 4th and 2 and decided that a FG wasn't enough because they were certain Mahomes would score. So instead of gift wrapping Mahomes the ball they went for it and won. It's common sense.
If we did get the ball second and couldn't score a TD you would be upset still

again, another ST mistake happened and it costed us. Do others blame harbaugh for Kyle Williams fumbles?
Yes 100% I blame Kyle for the numerous uncountable mistakes that his team has historically done due to no being mentally prepared. Now one or two things like a Kyle Williams(Luter being a moron) fumble but missed interceptions, fumbles in the redzone, missed throws to put the game away, missed XP's, allowing Mahomes to miraculously scramble and hit a receiver on what? 3rd and 15? Defense intercepting the ball in KC territory then penalties and not giving the ball to CMC. Mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake in all three phases is eventually on the HC. Choke job after choke job like the 3 we've already seen in 11 games this year.

And if we didn't score, we still lose but we had the ball in our hands to win it and control OUR OWN destiny. I would still not be happy but to put the ball in Mahomes hands to control HIS DESTINY was flat out dumb coaching. Sheer stupidity. Again, I'm certain Kyle didn't even know the rule as the players were unaware themselves. I mean, at least he was able to go there and party and set an amazing example of how serous he was about it. I'm not saying that was a huge deal but him getting wasted does show where his priorities were. He was there to party. Maybe I'm wrong but I've never seen a coach get completely s**t faced like Kyle did. Again, did that lose us the SB and was it the biggest deal? No, but to me it does show a bit of unseriousness and that type of unseriousness reflected to the teams mistakes.

So fumbles are Kyle's mistake okay got it, that's all I needed to know. And then in the end you want to fault Kyle for getting smashed the days before the Super Bowl? Can you honestly tell me with a straight face that no coach drinks the week before the Super Bowl?

As for the OT rules, f**k!!! The refs don't even know the rules sometimes, see Fridy nights KC vs LV game, they call an illegal shift and no f**kin player shifted!!! So yah fault Kyle for not knowing the OT rules, whatever, if the refs call one holding call against KC that Super Bowl outcome changes drastically.

But yah keep hating on Kyle you're looking very smart.
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Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
What Kyle did in the Super Bowl SHOULD HAVE BEEN a fireable offense. It wasn't…..ok. However, his answer to why Mason can't line up with CMC is definitely fireable, especially considering our injury situation. "Well, we don't run that kind of thing here".
just another example of Kyle being so set to his GD scheme and not playing our best options, even when injuries should warrant it.
Kyle has wasted what should have been another 49er dynasty and he's gotta go. I do t give a crap how many teams would take him. If they want a proven choke artist, Kyle is their guy and they can have him.

Originally posted by redrathman:
Yes, people blame Harbaugh for Kyle Williams being in the game, as they should. Kyle Williams had catching issues that Harbaugh and staff never addressed. The true mistake was letting Ted Ginn Jr. walk in free agency.
He was on the squad for that NFCC, but was injured.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
What Kyle did in the Super Bowl SHOULD HAVE BEEN a fireable offense. It wasn't…..ok. However, his answer to why Mason can't line up with CMC is definitely fireable, especially considering our injury situation. "Well, we don't run that kind of thing here".
just another example of Kyle being so set to his GD scheme and not playing our best options, even when injuries should warrant it.
Kyle has wasted what should have been another 49er dynasty and he's gotta go. I do t give a crap how many teams would take him. If they want a proven choke artist, Kyle is their guy and they can have him.


I mean it's kinda crazy that people consider Shanahan an offensive genius but he doesn't have a two running back package? Mason can't run the same routes and protections Juszczyk does? They haven't practiced this stuff?
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Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
What Kyle did in the Super Bowl SHOULD HAVE BEEN a fireable offense. It wasn't…..ok. However, his answer to why Mason can't line up with CMC is definitely fireable, especially considering our injury situation. "Well, we don't run that kind of thing here".
just another example of Kyle being so set to his GD scheme and not playing our best options, even when injuries should warrant it.
Kyle has wasted what should have been another 49er dynasty and he's gotta go. I do t give a crap how many teams would take him. If they want a proven choke artist, Kyle is their guy and they can have him.


I mean it's kinda crazy that people consider Shanahan an offensive genius but he doesn't have a two running back package? Mason can't run the same routes and protections Juszczyk does? They haven't practiced this stuff?

Hey I don't like that Kyle doesn't use all his RBs in games. But I'm not trying to whine about it or whine about firing him. There's reasons for everything, whether it's right or wrong. But in the end Kyle Shanahan is the best HC the 49ers have had since Harbaugh, f**k going back to post-Harbaugh days, no thanks.
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