49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by captveg:
These kind of philosophical adjustments don't happen in the regular season. When they do it's pretty remarkable. We saw Kyle for that in 2021 with Deebo. But usually these are offseason changes, as you build the team to match the philosophy. There was zero reason to shift gears going into this season because it had been so successful the last 1.5 seasons under Purdy. Well, now it isn't, so he'll look to adjust this offseason to counter what happened this year. If that fails we may have reached the end of what Kyle can do for the team, but the proper time to adjust still needs to be given, and that's the offseaaon, not mid-season.

Getting complacent and overconfident in the NFL is just...Im not sure whats the word I would use...foolish ?

Just because it was so successful it convinced Kyle to not invest in the oline ? Even thought the line ultimately was one of the main reasons for the SB loss ?

What about special teams ? Surely Luter Jr resulting in a muffed punt in the fourth quarter shoulve caused some changes, no ? Aw no, who needs stinky special teams right ?

When you are within an OT period of winning the SB it's not unreasonable to tweak rather than overhaul. In retrospect they needed to overhaul, but hindsight it always clearer than looking forward.

Many had concerns over the OL, so that's one area I also disagreed with Kyle on this past offseason. They did draft Puni, so they didn't completely ignore it, but, yes, they needed to upgrade at C more than anything and stood pat with Brendel, who has regressed from even his middling 2023 performance.

Special Teams is largely determined by training camp/preseason performances. You also don't want to condemn guys for one isolated play. The ST also got worse so they'll be certainly overhauling the 2nd/3rd string roster this offseason, and Luter's subsequent mistakes this season will likely be weighted more against him this time around.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Honest question:

Has Shanahan lost the team?

I don't want the same 5 or 6 Shanny's groupies answering this because I want people with a functional/not biased brain answering.

Season is lost, team is not.

That is my take. Adjustments need to be made and these are not accomplished in the middle of the season.

Kyles getting his pants pulled down without a top defense. Can't lean on his dads run game now, and when he has to pass pretty much every qb agrees, "Your Plays Suck Man"

Originally posted by redrathman:
He's never giving up power. His ego is too inflated.

it's not his power. it comes from Jed. he works at the pleasure of ownership

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Honest question:

Has Shanahan lost the team?

I don't want the same 5 or 6 Shanny's groupies answering this because I want people with a functional/not biased brain answering.

Yes. The team is not executing or playing serious on all 3 facets of the game due to poor coaching and preparation.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by redrathman:
He's never giving up power. His ego is too inflated.

it's not his power. it comes from Jed. he works at the pleasure of ownership

Jed doesn't run the offense. Kyle runs the offense.

I've been saying it for 5 years: Kyle coaches to not lose instead of playing to win. That's Kyle's legacy here. Kicking field goals in this weather while playing one of the best offenses in the league when we ALL KNOW they will be scoring in bunches and we need to keep up. No balls, no urgency, kick field goals instead of pushing the envelope. That's why he is in his 4th LOSING SEASON in 8 years. Completely mediocre.

They pulled down the Kyle vote after only 16 votes… why?

Originally posted by redrathman:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by redrathman:
He's never giving up power. His ego is too inflated.

it's not his power. it comes from Jed. he works at the pleasure of ownership

Jed doesn't run the offense. Kyle runs the offense.

that's all he should run. he should lose the personnel and DC decisions

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle also needs to hire an OC and have some play calling reduced. A new OC would change to the overall play calling and make it less predictable than what Shanahan is doing. Not to mention, it allows him to analyze what is working better and have adjustments, rather than just focused on calling the next play.

I don't think Kyle should get fired but this is by far his worst coaching year. The scheme has not helped out Purdy at all and now Brock Purdy looks very ordinary.

We have the worst or 2nd worst YAC percentage and separation numbers in the league. He continues to stick to the run (they have the one of lowest early down pass rates in the league), even when it isn't effective. We have had the worst special teams in the league for a while and at some point that falls on Kyle.

If he leaves I don't think it would be a firing but maybe a mutual parting of the ways where they ask him to make changes and he doesn't want to. And I also think Shanahan might be tired of the team and wouldn't mind taking the Chicago or NE job where he gets a fresh start and lower expectations

can you please watch some film before posting the same BS !

those JETS fans will not be as patient as us here in SF.. Shanny is nothing more than an OC, that's it.. he should just be a coordinator while someone is commanding him..

Look at Washington, they are winning while their QB is learning, but the fact that the HC knows how to coach, it makes a difference.. while look at the JETS, they have talent to compete, but their HC sucked and sucks now, so look at them..

Shanny can become Oakland's OC and they'll be a better team.. or better yet, maybe, Shanny can help Houston become a CONTENDER..

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by redrathman:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by redrathman:
He's never giving up power. His ego is too inflated.

it's not his power. it comes from Jed. he works at the pleasure of ownership

Jed doesn't run the offense. Kyle runs the offense.

that's all he should run. he should lose the personnel and DC decisions

This.

Originally posted by redrathman:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Hiring Sorenson to begin with was his biggest mistake, but not firing him could actually top that.

With so much blame to go around this season, It's actually hard to know where to start.

Either way, the off-season could be a fun and interesting one to say the least.

He doesn't know defense, and he doesn't have a better option on staff to replace him.

Staley was the DC for the rams in 2020 when they led the league in fewest points allowed. There is someone there better than Sorenson it's just Sorenson has the buddy card with Kyle.

Had clean outs for CMC, Trent, and Deebo at the end of the year! Screw that up too!

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle also needs to hire an OC and have some play calling reduced. A new OC would change to the overall play calling and make it less predictable than what Shanahan is doing. Not to mention, it allows him to analyze what is working better and have adjustments, rather than just focused on calling the next play.

I don't think Kyle should get fired but this is by far his worst coaching year. The scheme has not helped out Purdy at all and now Brock Purdy looks very ordinary.

We have the worst or 2nd worst YAC percentage and separation numbers in the league. He continues to stick to the run (they have the one of lowest early down pass rates in the league), even when it isn't effective. We have had the worst special teams in the league for a while and at some point that falls on Kyle.

If he leaves I don't think it would be a firing but maybe a mutual parting of the ways where they ask him to make changes and he doesn't want to. And I also think Shanahan might be tired of the team and wouldn't mind taking the Chicago or NE job where he gets a fresh start and lower expectations

can you please watch some film before posting the same BS !

those JETS fans will not be as patient as us here in SF.. Shanny is nothing more than an OC, that's it.. he should just be a coordinator while someone is commanding him..

Look at Washington, they are winning while their QB is learning, but the fact that the HC knows how to coach, it makes a difference.. while look at the JETS, they have talent to compete, but their HC sucked and sucks now, so look at them..

Shanny can become Oakland's OC and they'll be a better team.. or better yet, maybe, Shanny can help Houston become a CONTENDER..

Like in '22 with Purdy?

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Kyle also needs to hire an OC and have some play calling reduced. A new OC would change to the overall play calling and make it less predictable than what Shanahan is doing. Not to mention, it allows him to analyze what is working better and have adjustments, rather than just focused on calling the next play.

I don't think Kyle should get fired but this is by far his worst coaching year. The scheme has not helped out Purdy at all and now Brock Purdy looks very ordinary.

We have the worst or 2nd worst YAC percentage and separation numbers in the league. He continues to stick to the run (they have the one of lowest early down pass rates in the league), even when it isn't effective. We have had the worst special teams in the league for a while and at some point that falls on Kyle.

If he leaves I don't think it would be a firing but maybe a mutual parting of the ways where they ask him to make changes and he doesn't want to. And I also think Shanahan might be tired of the team and wouldn't mind taking the Chicago or NE job where he gets a fresh start and lower expectations

can you please watch some film before posting the same BS !

those JETS fans will not be as patient as us here in SF.. Shanny is nothing more than an OC, that's it.. he should just be a coordinator while someone is commanding him..

Look at Washington, they are winning while their QB is learning, but the fact that the HC knows how to coach, it makes a difference.. while look at the JETS, they have talent to compete, but their HC sucked and sucks now, so look at them..

Shanny can become Oakland's OC and they'll be a better team.. or better yet, maybe, Shanny can help Houston become a CONTENDER..

Like in '22 with Purdy?

lol he's not too bright or can't remember anything