49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

You are doing what you always do, not applying a standard to all.

lol he talks so much BS and can't even back up anything

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

You are doing what you always do, not applying a standard to all.

lol he talks so much BS and can't even back up anything

see this is the problem. folks can't admit the good and the bad. shanny having deebo go off the rails and he's just saying oh yeah deebo is great. that's a red flag folks if you want to admit that or not. i call it how it is. i said after the SB deebo has to go. now why am I one year out in front of shanny? coach can't see the film of the SB?

coach and everyone else seen the SB, except you

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

You are doing what you always do, not applying a standard to all.

Also what's Dan Campbell considered with how he handles Jamison Williams and all his dumb s**t. He's still got one of those two players that got caught gambling on the roster.

my god look at all the players that Andy Reid has brought in or coach that have been head cases and straight up bad people.

all whataboutism.

maybe take a second not to knee jerk come to shanny's defense or deebo's defense and admit we have problems. deebo taking shots at brock and it's nothing to see here? i don't think so..

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

You are doing what you always do, not applying a standard to all.

Also what's Dan Campbell considered with how he handles Jamison Williams and all his dumb s**t. He's still got one of those two players that got caught gambling on the roster.

my god look at all the players that Andy Reid has brought in or coach that have been head cases and straight up bad people.

imagine if Deebo did this!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

You are doing what you always do, not applying a standard to all.

Also what's Dan Campbell considered with how he handles Jamison Williams and all his dumb s**t. He's still got one of those two players that got caught gambling on the roster.

my god look at all the players that Andy Reid has brought in or coach that have been head cases and straight up bad people.

imagine if Deebo did this!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

You are doing what you always do, not applying a standard to all.

lol he talks so much BS and can't even back up anything

.

I don't think that's true. Doesn't talk like him lol

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

You are doing what you always do, not applying a standard to all.

lol he talks so much BS and can't even back up anything

.

I don't think that's true. Doesn't talk like him lol

lets see..

making things up
grass is always greener
can't admit to being wrong
spins everything when asked to provide context/substance/evidence

Sing set the gold standard now maybe he couldn't design plays or call offense but he did player discipline right and that's how Shanny should do it. but shanny isn't doing anything on the deebo front it's a whatever, but the whole team can see it. throw a player under the bus and start on TNF. it is what it is.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
I agree with you in Atlanta. That game was won, and the Pat's only chance was to get a sack, and he drops back to pass. That shows poor judgement on Kyle's point, and I've long said I don't think he's a good game manager. Kind of the job of a Head Coach.

Fourty seconds is not won. How many Super Bowls and other big games with us having significant leads has Kyle lost on a final drive putting the game in his defenses hands, thinking he's going to hold them? What are your odds of gaining one foot. Do you want to be on defense knowing you lose if you can't stop one foot? If that was a 50 50 play, I'd agree with you. It wasn't. It's back to my basic point. Winners are willing to take their chances on offense. Losers don't. It's not just the one play. It's an aggressive attitude that keeps your guys fired up, and the defense in constant jeopardy. And it's not just going for it on 4th down. Brock throws a nice long ball. Keep them backed off, and you'll keep moving the chains. Stay aggressive all the time and you will score more points, and never see that one play gamble.

The teams that win it all are the aggressive teams. The Marty Schottenheimer's and Kyle Shanahans of the world win a high percentage of their games, but then they get beat by someone more aggressive when there is no tomorrow.

That ATL game was most certainly not won. Their D couldn't stop a nosebleed and they couldn't run the ball the second half. You'd expect the MVP of the league to throw the damn ball away when needed. They had a 1st down that would have ended it if not for a holding call all the same. Guess what teams get holding calls when running the ball as well. Ever watch a Niners game lol? Then what? You're forced to throw the ball and they know it.

acting like that game was over vs 40 secs in a football game is ridiculouslypo hypocritical.

DET isn't gonna win it all this yr if they can't stop a team from scoring a FG in 40 secs. Plan and simple.

yeah the Staley teams won a ton lol. Dude was the most aggressive HC in football.

It's so obvious where the bias is here. That ONE play imo was reckless and not needed. Plain and simple. Ya'll want to lick Campbell's big balls and don't like to talk about how him doing the same s**t cost him a trip to the SB lol. You can't pick and choose.

Yeah you can. You aren't hearing my point. Stay aggressive, and you score more points, and it doesn't come down to one play to judge the whole philosophy nearly as often, and you win more.

And Detroit isn't going to win it if they can't make a foot with field to play in, or think they can't. That, is picking and choosing. They think they can, the odds are in their favor, they control the play, they see the weaknesses on the other side for a quick play, and they don't have to worry about great plays coming at them, screw ups on your side, PI, and bad ref calls. And it makes your field goal shorter and more of a sure thing. Game over. When you have a chance with the odds in your favor to put the game away and not give them a chance, take it. Or I guess that's just me.

Agreed. I think the point is that when the game is on the line, you should want your offense on the field. The offense has more control over the situation by choosing the personnel, formation, motion, and play call while the defense has to react to all of those things.

As far as "aggressive" vs "conservative", I think the point is that you want your coach to know what dial to turn and when. It's not about always being aggressive or conservative, but knowing when to do those things. You won't always be right, but if you're right a lot, it can have a major impact on the player's confidence. This is something I think Shanahan struggles with.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sing set the gold standard now maybe he couldn't design plays or call offense but he did player discipline right and that's how Shanny should do it. but shanny isn't doing anything on the deebo front it's a whatever, but the whole team can see it. throw a player under the bus and start on TNF. it is what it is.

lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i don't excuse jack. you're talking about old news. i'm talking current events with shanny, in the shanny thread.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sing set the gold standard now maybe he couldn't design plays or call offense but he did player discipline right and that's how Shanny should do it. but shanny isn't doing anything on the deebo front it's a whatever, but the whole team can see it. throw a player under the bus and start on TNF. it is what it is.

lol

it was textbook how to handle a player who puts the team first. shanny may be a better track record but he could learn from that example. jed was around he knows.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Sing set the gold standard now maybe he couldn't design plays or call offense but he did player discipline right and that's how Shanny should do it. but shanny isn't doing anything on the deebo front it's a whatever, but the whole team can see it. throw a player under the bus and start on TNF. it is what it is.

Agreed. It seems Shanahan allows his players to police themselves. That's a good thing when you have high character players in the locker room, but once in a while, the coach needs to drop the hammer. I wouldn't bench players since that penalizes the whole team and the fans, but he could get out in front of it and speak to the team privately so that it doesn't keep happening. Hopefully he's doing that.

Out of all the things to complain about, we are complaining about a WR's internet post? A WR no less. The most diva position in all of sports.

Forty Whiners

Originally posted by miked1978:
Out of all the things to complain about, we are complaining about a WR's internet post? A WR no less. The most diva position in all of sports.

Forty Whiners

It is pretty dumb, isn't it.

Kittle basically said the same thing at the podium last week.