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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.

Just here to give you props DrChowder. These are the longest posts I've ever seen from you. slights towards Kyle is where you draw the line lol
[ Edited by Bay2Bay9erAllday on Dec 28, 2024 at 2:27 AM ]
They way I look at this is that this is Shanahan's mess to fix and I believe he will. I do think we need to remove some power from him. I have concerns on how the 49ers have drafted and have to admit we are seeing the impact of the Lance pick still. The 49ers have a foundation, a very good one to build upon but they need to admit their inadequacies on the the D and O Line and I think they will address that moving into this year. Shanahan probably needs to learn not to work his stars into the ground, especially when you have capable people behind them. That may or may not help with the injuries but running McCaffrey every play when you have two adequate back ups behind him isn't always the best choice IMO but I am not a head coach, just a fan and I acknowledge that. It's been a hard year in many ways, but Lynch and Shanahan have built a great franchise again and I believe they will keep doing so with the continuing aim to bring a Super Bowl Championship back to the organization. I don't want to do a Harbaugh firing and see them sink back to that level.
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.

Detroit Lions O-line compared to the 9ers O-line is no comparison (this week) like you stated. They're damn good at both Tackle spots and Center, which is the second most important position on the O-line next to LT. IMO. I'd throw the bank at Frank Ragnow to replace Jake Brendel.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.
Add/agree. Muck is a hater and will skip on context to talk s**t
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Kyle should be good for now, but another couple more gaffes in a big game, he could be on life support.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Dec 28, 2024 at 9:37 AM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.
Add/agree. Muck is a hater and will skip on context to talk s**t
Rather expect greatness than openly support losing like you. Lol you make every excuse possible to celebrate and cherish losing. Every excuse...

But as I asked Dr. how about for once, just once tell me Kyle's positives this season. Thanks. Now run away like you always do. Always.
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Dec 28, 2024 at 11:07 AM ]
I wish some of you would stop the word battles between each other and stick to the topic. You can disagree without running down each other.
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.
Add/agree. Muck is a hater and will skip on context to talk s**t
Rather expect greatness than openly support losing like you. Lol you make every excuse possible to celebrate and cherish losing. Every excuse...

But as I asked Dr. how about for once, just once tell me Kyle's positives this season. Thanks. Now run away like you always do. Always.
Expect greatness from practice squad players and guys off the street ?

since you are unable to see anything. Look how bad the bad teams are with most of their starters. Now look at what we were able to do with missing a ton of All pros and probowlers missing games

no way should we have 6 wins let alone be a few plays away from a winning season with 4th and 5th string players

that my hater friend is the best positive from a coach you can get from injured as fk season.
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 28, 2024 at 11:23 AM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wish some of you would stop the word battles between each other and stick to the topic. You can disagree without running down each other.
I was on topic... I fully understand injuries take a toll but not this big of a toll. This team is being poorly coached right now... That is why I have asked multiple time for the good things Kyle has done and nobody can answer it. Not one person yet. This team can barely score 20 points despite having Brock, JJ, Kittle, Deebo and Mason for most of the year. I'm sorry that is still talent and just as much talent as Miami had who thoroughly dominated us. To my point this team has played well at times despite injuries just to choke the game away like we have 3 times against conference rivals.

So, how about we focus on the positives of Kyle THIS SEASON for once? Why can't we do that? I'm all ears. What has he done? Who on this team has exceeded expectations? Who is better this year than last? Is our defense better? Our offense? I won't even ask special teams because we are garbage every year with that.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.
Add/agree. Muck is a hater and will skip on context to talk s**t
Rather expect greatness than openly support losing like you. Lol you make every excuse possible to celebrate and cherish losing. Every excuse...

But as I asked Dr. how about for once, just once tell me Kyle's positives this season. Thanks. Now run away like you always do. Always.
Expect greatness from practice squad players and guys off the street ?

since you are unable to see anything. Look how bad the bad teams are with most of their starters. Now look at what we were able to do with missing a ton of All pros and probowlers missing games

no way should we have 6 wins let alone be a few plays away from a winning season with 4th and 5th string players

that my hater friend is the best positive from a coach you can get from injured as fk season.

Purdy, Deebo, Kittle, Juice, future HOF Trent who has played 10 games... Mason are practice squad guys? Fred Warner? Bosa? Huff? Ward? This team STILL has more pro-bowlers than most losing teams. C'mon dude lol. What are you smoking?

But I'm still waiting for those positives. Let's go, lets talk.
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Dec 28, 2024 at 11:29 AM ]
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.
Add/agree. Muck is a hater and will skip on context to talk s**t
Rather expect greatness than openly support losing like you. Lol you make every excuse possible to celebrate and cherish losing. Every excuse...

But as I asked Dr. how about for once, just once tell me Kyle's positives this season. Thanks. Now run away like you always do. Always.
Expect greatness from practice squad players and guys off the street ?

since you are unable to see anything. Look how bad the bad teams are with most of their starters. Now look at what we were able to do with missing a ton of All pros and probowlers missing games

no way should we have 6 wins let alone be a few plays away from a winning season with 4th and 5th string players

that my hater friend is the best positive from a coach you can get from injured as fk season.

Purdy, Deebo, Kittle, Mason are practice squad guys? Fred Warner? Bosa? Huff? Ward? This team STILL has more pro-bowlers than most losing teams.
Let's actually see those guys listed.. Injured, injured, injured, 3rd string/injured, injured, injured, injured, death

Lol please re-read my post on the biggest positive you can ever get
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 28, 2024 at 11:47 AM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by picklejuice:
kyle shanahan failed us...im really disappointed in this season

I hear you. I'm annoyed with Shanny as well. Does he not know how to prevent injuries? All the best coaches in the league keep their players healthy. If you tear an ACL that's on the HC. Any injury is because the HC failed to teach their players how not to get injured. Ricky also getting shot is all on Shanny. Has Reid ever had a player get shot? Don't think so.

Shanny is the only coach ever to deal with injuries. Brilliant post JJJ. Lions have been absolutely decimated by injuries and their fine. Right? Yeah.

Besides Aidan, think its mostly their backups and backup backups that are injured.

Not really...


Their defense isn't playing well though and isn't most of their injuries on the defensive side. Their offense really hasn't had the type of injures that our offense has had besides Montgomery going down recently, which is why they're still scoring.

Ok... I'm not trying to come off condescending here but enlighten me of me the areas that you think Kyle has excelled at this year? Are you telling me you think the last 6-7weeks have been well coached despite injuries? We've put up 20 points only twice since our bye week 7 weeks ago. That's all just injuries?!

I dont sense that from you, but I never said Kyle has excelled this year lol. I'm just pointing out that I feel our injuries have been more impactful compared to the Lions injuries. You brought up that they've had more injuries than us and they're doing fine. I pointed out that their defense isn't playing well and that's where most of their main injures are at, but they've been able to mask that because their offense is still rolling since they don't have the type of injuries on offense as we've had. I'm not defending Kyle if thats what you're thinking. I'm just here about the injuries. Off the top of my head Niners have had injuries on the offensive side of CMC, Aiyuk, Trent, Deebo, Purdy, JJ, Mason, Gurrendo, Kittle. These have either missed the whole season or games. I don't really know all Lions players so from the offense side I can only think of Montgomery and thats just recent. If you know any more impactful one let me know lol.

They have 16 defensive players on IR. Their Oline is banged up too to bottom. Yet they are still chugging along. I mean, obviously injuries play a role but to my point this team is not being coached well and that injuries is a garbage and extremely lazy excuse. Injuries or not this team, nearly every single player, is underperforming.

Campbell is a no-excuse guy. He's repeatedly said injuries are part of the deal and the job is for anyone on the field to be good enough and prepared enough to perform. It's what you'd want and expect him to say.

"I just feel like we didn't play at the same level as that team," Campbell said. "That's why I put this on me. I didn't have them ready."

https://sports.yahoo.com/lions-injuries-are-becoming-recurring-nightmare-in-otherwise-dream-season-020417086.html

Their Oline banged up but they still have Penei and Ragnow which are arguably the top at their positions so their oline is still a top 5 unit imo. Compared that to ours and its not even a comparison. So besides just being banged up who else on their offense is injured to where they've missed huge amount of time besides Montgomery which was just recently? No one comes up which is why their offense is still rolling. You point out that they're chugging along and I repeat what I said its because their offense hasn't really missed a beat so they've been able to outscore the opponent, since they don't have the type of injuries we have on offense compared to theirs. Now their defense has had most of their big injuries and thats why they're not playing well on that side. On that side of the ball they're not just rolling along. Which brings me back to my point, our injuries are not the same.

49ers are a top 10 Total Offense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-offense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats
Lions are ranked 2nd.

Lions are ranked 18 in Total Defense with all those injuries. https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2024-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

Like I said I'm not defending Kyle, hes made some bad decisions this year, but you can't just say look at Detroit, they're chugging along since our injuries are totally different. If you want to point out where Kyle needs to improve on, I would say its red zone offense where we're ranked 25th.
We've had more significant injuries. By the buffalo game we already had the league's highest amount of games missed by Probowlers/All Pros

So are you agreeing/adding on here or debating here lol... not sure where you coming from with this.
Add/agree. Muck is a hater and will skip on context to talk s**t
Rather expect greatness than openly support losing like you. Lol you make every excuse possible to celebrate and cherish losing. Every excuse...

But as I asked Dr. how about for once, just once tell me Kyle's positives this season. Thanks. Now run away like you always do. Always.
Expect greatness from practice squad players and guys off the street ?

since you are unable to see anything. Look how bad the bad teams are with most of their starters. Now look at what we were able to do with missing a ton of All pros and probowlers missing games

no way should we have 6 wins let alone be a few plays away from a winning season with 4th and 5th string players

that my hater friend is the best positive from a coach you can get from injured as fk season.

Purdy, Deebo, Kittle, Mason are practice squad guys? Fred Warner? Bosa? Huff? Ward? This team STILL has more pro-bowlers than most losing teams.
Let's see.. Injured, injured, injured, 3rd string/injured, injured, injured, death

Lol please re-read my post on the biggest positive you can ever get
No thanks...

Deebo 14 games
Kittle 13 games
Mason 12 games
Williams 10 games
Warner 15 games
Bosa 13 games
Huff 5 games
Ward 11 games

6 probowlers that have played a majority of the season. 6... That's more than most teams have.

Lol notice how ExcusesEverySecond can't even give me a single postive of Shanny this year and he intentionally cut it out? He doesn't add anything but says "read my post" lol. I did. You literally can't even give me a single player who's improved.
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Dec 28, 2024 at 11:53 AM ]
And this Oline is injured and not good excuse has very little merit as a huge chunk of us armchair GM's have been pleading for Oline help for years. Kyle refuses. That is his fault, not injuries. Copout excuse and nothing more.
[ Edited by MucketyMuck on Dec 28, 2024 at 12:07 PM ]
Also lost to the vikes, rams and cards earlier in the season with limited injuries. Insert new excuse…..
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