Coaches Film Analysis: 2018 Season

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Giedi:
There was one play where it was a 3rd and short and this was in the 2nd half, and they dialed up a toss play or run play to the left and Buckner or the LEO got caught up inside and gashed this defense for a 7+ yard loss, and I think that *one* play made Saleh back off on the pass rush aggressiveness. I don't know why specially if you are up +17. On the TD in the 2nd half (3rd and 17), I didn't see an aggressive pass rush (ie dogs and stunts) or a blitz. Maybe I'm wrong but that 3rd and 17 was a moral breaker for our defense. That would be a great play to analyze and diagnose. 3rd and 17, how can your pass defense break down in that situation?

Yeah, that 3rd and 17 was.....awful. It felt like the entire team let up on that play. They had DET dead to rights and all they needed was to hold them on 3rd and 17 and.....bupkiss

was that not the one where kwaun williams didn't get enough dept on his deep zone and let the receiver go past him?

Here's later in the drive after the Breida run. It wasn't that we couldn't beat man-coverage all game, it was that we couldn't do it consistently and you have to be able to beat it in a few ways, not just one. Here, we win with a double move but after we started to burn or threaten to burn DET with these they started waiting on the double moves. That's when you have to win with your first move. We didn't always do that.



Here's an example of the type of play we ran a few times. This is why Jimmy didn't have anywhere to go with the ball if the play didn't work. We run a 2 man route. Garcon goes deep to clear out his area and gives Pettis a huge area of the field to work his man. We start out with Juice out wide, a LBer on him reveals man-coverage and then motion him inside. We're going to max protect off PA.



PA sells the inside crossing route and creates more room to work.



Jimmy turns and looks the safety to that side of the field to hold him. Pettis wins inside leverage.



Pettis puts a nice move on his guy and wins to the outside.



Gets good separation vs the man-coverage.

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Giedi:
There was one play where it was a 3rd and short and this was in the 2nd half, and they dialed up a toss play or run play to the left and Buckner or the LEO got caught up inside and gashed this defense for a 7+ yard loss, and I think that *one* play made Saleh back off on the pass rush aggressiveness. I don't know why specially if you are up +17. On the TD in the 2nd half (3rd and 17), I didn't see an aggressive pass rush (ie dogs and stunts) or a blitz. Maybe I'm wrong but that 3rd and 17 was a moral breaker for our defense. That would be a great play to analyze and diagnose. 3rd and 17, how can your pass defense break down in that situation?

Yeah, that 3rd and 17 was.....awful. It felt like the entire team let up on that play. They had DET dead to rights and all they needed was to hold them on 3rd and 17 and.....bupkiss

was that not the one where kwaun williams didn't get enough dept on his deep zone and let the receiver go past him?

That was part of the problem. The other was that we called a weird stunt and it gave up the middle of the field for him to step up and away from the rush. We got 2 guys who are over 6 foot and it's that long. Keep them in there and take away his ability to see the defense well. If he doesn't step up, he doesn't see the receiver break open. That play we gave up a 67 yard catch.

I mentioned it in the other thread. I really liked Pettis's route on the Bourne TD. Starts in like it could be a drag, then it goes vertical a bit before going to a corner. It's just s great way to create seperation on the flat (now I know Detroit bust basically) but even if the flat gets covered you have nice leverage on that corner with room to look at it for a TD as well.

Sorry at work here's the play art:


So the tightness of the formation and that type of corner routes looks pretty bad ass.

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Giedi:
There was one play where it was a 3rd and short and this was in the 2nd half, and they dialed up a toss play or run play to the left and Buckner or the LEO got caught up inside and gashed this defense for a 7+ yard loss, and I think that *one* play made Saleh back off on the pass rush aggressiveness. I don't know why specially if you are up +17. On the TD in the 2nd half (3rd and 17), I didn't see an aggressive pass rush (ie dogs and stunts) or a blitz. Maybe I'm wrong but that 3rd and 17 was a moral breaker for our defense. That would be a great play to analyze and diagnose. 3rd and 17, how can your pass defense break down in that situation?

Yeah, that 3rd and 17 was.....awful. It felt like the entire team let up on that play. They had DET dead to rights and all they needed was to hold them on 3rd and 17 and.....bupkiss

was that not the one where kwaun williams didn't get enough dept on his deep zone and let the receiver go past him?

yeah that sounds right. But the pass rush on that play is what concerns me. On that play, they did run a stunt. Marsh took an inside rush and got some good inside pressure, it looks like AA went the wrong way on the rush and had to double back on the stunt. If AA would have taken the right rush lane, (a loop to the outside) that would have been a sack - instead Stafford gets away from the rush and burns our DB. AA is really beginning to get on my nerves.

good stuff! Thanks for putting the work in!

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by Giedi:
There was one play where it was a 3rd and short and this was in the 2nd half, and they dialed up a toss play or run play to the left and Buckner or the LEO got caught up inside and gashed this defense for a 7+ yard loss, and I think that *one* play made Saleh back off on the pass rush aggressiveness. I don't know why specially if you are up +17. On the TD in the 2nd half (3rd and 17), I didn't see an aggressive pass rush (ie dogs and stunts) or a blitz. Maybe I'm wrong but that 3rd and 17 was a moral breaker for our defense. That would be a great play to analyze and diagnose. 3rd and 17, how can your pass defense break down in that situation?

Yeah, that 3rd and 17 was.....awful. It felt like the entire team let up on that play. They had DET dead to rights and all they needed was to hold them on 3rd and 17 and.....bupkiss

was that not the one where kwaun williams didn't get enough dept on his deep zone and let the receiver go past him?

That was part of the problem. The other was that we called a weird stunt and it gave up the middle of the field for him to step up and away from the rush. We got 2 guys who are over 6 foot and it's that long. Keep them in there and take away his ability to see the defense well. If he doesn't step up, he doesn't see the receiver break open. That play we gave up a 67 yard catch.

Agree, and it was AA that had contain and didn't do a good job of it.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here's the first run of the game and shows how Shanny predicted and took advantage against Matt Patricia's usage of the Bear front Thl was talking about earlier in the full film thread.



Here, we run a counter play. We're going to fake a run to the left with the RB making a jab step that direction and pull the G, Tomlinsen, and Juice back around to the other side. The other blocks are downblocks.

The "Bear" front looks to cover up the 3 interior lineman. You see those 3 DLineman in close splits - that's the "bear" front. The disadvantage is that it gives some other players good angles on these guys as you can see.



We motion Pettis along as window dressing. This sells the run to the right as it looks like a play you see all these teams run where they run to the right and have a WR motioning across to hold the LBers. This causes a double hesitation from the LBers to hold them in the middle of the field and also holds the playside safety who has to respect the outside run now.



The angles give to Richburg and Person allow them easy seal off blocks and mcG is able to handle his guy alone as well. This allows Kittle to get a great angle on the LBer in the 2nd level.



Tomlinsen does a great job on his kickout block against the EMLOS. Look at these blocks, that's purrrdy. This gives Breida a clear read for inside or outside.



Breida sees color flash and makes a good, one-cut to the outside and follows Juice who, because of the Pettis action, has a great angle on the safety. McG does a really nice job of locking his man down.


Look at the lane the O-line creates. That's just how you draw it up.



Then Breida shows off his little Wiggle by making the safety miss and gains an extra 12 yards or so. A real nice way to open the game.

Nice cutup. I'm wondering why DET would come with bear fronts in a non-short yardage situation when the 49ers are known to be an outside zone team. Sure the 49ers also run inside zone, but they are predominantly outside zone. The two big runs Breida had later were also against bear fronts. My guess is DET wanted to protect their LBs from any OLmen that wanted to get to the second level? But that bear front is exposed on the edges as we later see when 49ers gash them with outside zone.

The Jet motion did a great job of holding the playside EMOLS for Tomlinson to kickout. What I liked about Breida's actual run was how he set up the backside ILB (#52). Breida faked as if to go to the left of McG, this drew in the ILB, then Breida went to McG's right and that ILB was caught up inside with no chance to get in on the action. Nice job of setting up his blocks.

So, had to show the Pettis big play to set this up. The first sack of the game. Bear in mind, we would've hit Kittle for a TD but the defender holds and it slows up the timing of the play. They were flagged for 5 yards and an automatic first down - worth it considering it saved 4 points.



So, we've now burned or almost burnt the Lions on two double moves plays. They start getting wise to this operation. We're going to motion Garcon inside, fake a zone-read and look for Pettis on a deeper ZIG route.

DET is in cover 1-man. We'll max protect again to try and give the receivers as much time to win these battles. You have to give these guys time to work against man-coverage like this.



We run the PA again, it holds the LBers and sells the underneath route again. Garcon routes stems inside to hold the safety to give Pettis as much room to work as possible.



Pettis works inside but his defender, this time, does a good job of maintaining his outside leverage. Also gets a little grabby.



He doesn't bite on the double move and Pettis doesn't win.



Jimmy moves to Garcon, but he's bracketed.



This is just a split second later. I have a hard time faulting Jimmy here. He does all the right things. He stuck with Pettis through the break, reset his feet to look to Garcon, but both guys are covered. He exhausted the play and the play wasn't there. If anything, he should've thrown it away here. Instead, he tries to escape and gets sacked.



pure coverage sack. DET had gotten wise to our games.....lol.

I feel like that play would have worked with Goodwin on the field.

EDIT: Also it looked like Jimmy had plenty of room to take off to his left when it all broke down.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I feel like that play would have worked with Goodwin on the field.

Probably. He worked that on some people last year.

Here's the very next play which was a sack. I'm not going to break it down cause there's not much to it. You'll see. Not. One. person. Open.

He wants Kittle on this play but Kittle gets bear hugged at the top of the route. Not sure how it wasn't called.



Best case scenario....throw it away. Either way, it didn't affect the outcome with him taking a sack vs throwing it away. We still made the FG.

Both sacks, you see, he had no where to go. Not one place.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I feel like that play would have worked with Goodwin on the field.

EDIT: Also it looked like Jimmy had plenty of room to take off to his left when it all broke down.

Not really. you got a defender not rushing almost spying, collapsing pocket and the T working his man upfield. That's too much to ask. I like that he tries to exhaust the play. Not all QB's we've had in the past would do that before trying to run. I'm ok with this play. Jimmy's not the problem on this play.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I feel like that play would have worked with Goodwin on the field.

EDIT: Also it looked like Jimmy had plenty of room to take off to his left when it all broke down.

Not really. you got a defender not rushing almost spying, collapsing pocket and the T working his man upfield. That's too much to ask. I like that he tries to exhaust the play. Not all QB's we've had in the past would do that before trying to run. I'm ok with this play. Jimmy's not the problem on this play.

I'm also not a huge fan of plays with only two receiving options. Maybe if you have a big guy you can always lob it up to.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
I feel like that play would have worked with Goodwin on the field.

EDIT: Also it looked like Jimmy had plenty of room to take off to his left when it all broke down.

Not really. you got a defender not rushing almost spying, collapsing pocket and the T working his man upfield. That's too much to ask. I like that he tries to exhaust the play. Not all QB's we've had in the past would do that before trying to run. I'm ok with this play. Jimmy's not the problem on this play.

I'm also not a huge fan of plays with only two receiving options. Maybe if you have a big guy you can always lob it up to.

Sure, but, if you look at how long those double moves take to develop mixed with, look at how long Jimmy has when he has 5 options.... You're trying to setup a guy you believe in with the best possible chance to win his route, it's going to take 4-5 seconds, so, the only want to give that to your QB is with a great PA fake or max protect. Can't get that good of a PA fake in the redzone when guys don't have to worry about deep threats and know the safeties will be able to come up quick.