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Coaches Film Analysis: 2018 Season

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Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Whoops. I updated the link.

Here it is:

The play in which CJ was strip-sacked by Chandler Jones. He was going to hit a wide open Juice. If CJ gains a few more inches of depth in his hitch steps, this looks like a TD.
Every one of the Olinemen have their guy in front of them except Staley who was chasing. I agree he should have stepped up but there was no assurance that Ole Staley wasn't beaten so bad that Jones wouldn't have just turned that corner and drove right into CJ's back before he got the ball out.

your O-line isn't meant to continue blocking 8+ yards behind the line of scrimmage.... this is entirely on beathard. he has an entire airport runway of space to move up and throw. Staley isn't at fault. at all. period.
It was also a 7 step drop and CJ was hit from behind on what is referred to as his blindside. Had Staley did his job and kept the pass rusher in front or even delayed him for just another half second instead of getting destroyed and giving up the edge, then maybe that play could have happened.

the outside tackle isn't supposed to keep the pass rusher directly in front of him on a passing play the entire time...he's not run blocking. staley did his job just fine. had beathard done HIS job there wouldn't have been a fumble


The QB should have some idea what the line is doing. It seems Staley rode the faster player outside, this means CJ steps up to avoid the rush. Most likely a miscommunication presnap.

Was Person at center Maint the call?

Not sure, but it seemed like everyone did their job, they just weren't sure what that job was!
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Whoops. I updated the link.

Here it is:

The play in which CJ was strip-sacked by Chandler Jones. He was going to hit a wide open Juice. If CJ gains a few more inches of depth in his hitch steps, this looks like a TD.
Every one of the Olinemen have their guy in front of them except Staley who was chasing. I agree he should have stepped up but there was no assurance that Ole Staley wasn't beaten so bad that Jones wouldn't have just turned that corner and drove right into CJ's back before he got the ball out.

your O-line isn't meant to continue blocking 8+ yards behind the line of scrimmage.... this is entirely on beathard. he has an entire airport runway of space to move up and throw. Staley isn't at fault. at all. period.
It was also a 7 step drop and CJ was hit from behind on what is referred to as his blindside. Had Staley did his job and kept the pass rusher in front or even delayed him for just another half second instead of getting destroyed and giving up the edge, then maybe that play could have happened.

the outside tackle isn't supposed to keep the pass rusher directly in front of him on a passing play the entire time...he's not run blocking. staley did his job just fine. had beathard done HIS job there wouldn't have been a fumble


The QB should have some idea what the line is doing. It seems Staley rode the faster player outside, this means CJ steps up to avoid the rush. Most likely a miscommunication presnap.

Was Person at center Maint the call?

Not sure, but it seemed like everyone did their job, they just weren't sure what that job was!

This is on CJ. You know you have a 7 step drop, which takes time. You should not assume things will be so clean that you can throw a normal throw. This is where QB's arm talent comes into play. The WR was wide open. Don't need a normal elongated throw in this instance. Just get the ball there as quick as possible.

I don't consider it the blind side since CJ is looking in that direction. He should have felt the DL coming around and adjusted his throw or positioning.
The play i am interested in is the 2pt attempt. The screen that jones swatted.

As upset as shanny was.

Should it have been checked out of.

Was it a poor chop, or did jones just sniff out the play?

4th qtr 6:51 left
[ Edited by jdt84_2 on Oct 10, 2018 at 2:46 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Staley did get beat initially but he did the right thing in riding jones passed CJ, CJ is just a s**tty QB with no pocket awareness, CJ needs to step up there and make the pass. 100% CJs fault

Actually, rewatching it now in slow motion. It was a 7 step drop timing route, he hitched forward twice, had planted and WAS throwing as Jones knocked it out...empty hand. Damn that was close to a huge play.

How effing long are Jones' arms????

Maybe Jimmy can make this pass with his quick shorten release before the defender can swat at the ball.

But if it goes a bit off the mark, people would say he should've stepped into his throw to the left

Add this one to CJ's experience bag.
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
The play i am interested in is the 2pt attempt. The screen that jones swatted.

As upset as shanny was.

Should it have been checked out of.

Was it a poor chop, or did jones just sniff out the play?

4th qtr 6:51 left

He saw that coming long before the pass was made. Veteran recognition IMHO.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Maybe Jimmy can make this pass with his quick shorten release before the defender can swat at the ball.

But if it goes a bit off the mark, people would say he should've stepped into his throw to the left

Add this one to CJ's experience bag.

Yeah, I think that's one where his quicker, more compact release probably gets him that big play. Funny listening to BeatHard talk about this play and how football really is a game of inches. He referenced this very play.
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This game had some interesting enough plays that I'll cut up a few of the notable ones. I still refuse to re-watch a game in its entirety until they put up a W so I can't provide a game summary. Sick of re-watching losing football over the past seasons.
Originally posted by thl408:

This game had some interesting enough plays that I'll cut up a few of the notable ones. I still refuse to re-watch a game in its entirety until they put up a W so I can't provide a game summary. Sick of re-watching losing football over the past seasons.

So moral victories don't count now?
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Wanted to highlight one of the strengths of the offense that has been consistent enough to not be affected by the change in QBs - the running game. The 49ers are third in the league in team rushing, and tied for second with a 5.1 yard average per rush. Not bad for an UDFA and a street pickup, although Morris has a nice resume.

Breida has shown better strength this season to go with his explosiveness - he's finally breaking arm tackles this season. His ability to threaten the edge, coupled with improved OT play from McG and improved Center play has given the 49ers a consistent rushing attack that can run left and right with equal effectiveness.
This is the 49ers longest run play of the day and shows off good team run blocking.
Presnap, Kittle motions from the double TE side to the WR side for a balanced formation.


Outside Zone left using 22 personnel (2rb/2te/1wr) vs base 3-4 over front with the playside DE playing as a 3t (orange) and a shaded nose. When Kittle sets, #50 is seen signaling to his fellow ILB that the run is going that way (defense's right) - he sees what's coming. Key blocks to start this play are on the 3t (orange) and the EMOLS (red)


Tomlinson is able to get across the face of the 3t and pins orange's helmet inside - orange is reach blocked as long as Tomlinson can maintain his block. Even though the red OLB had outside leverage on Kittle presnap, Kittle is able to get outside of red. This is critical in gaining the edge.


Red then tries to cheat inside to blow up the play, but Kittle showing his experience let's red go to move on to the second level. Kittle knows Juice is behind him to clean up red.


That's a hold by Richburg on #50, but good OLman find ways to get away with holding. Kittle kicks out the safety - easy clear lane for Breida.


+13 on great blocking.
thl, can you break down the first Packers' play? It was hard to tell what happened from the broadcast. Was that spot drop cover 3? It kind of threw me off since it was 3x1.
[ Edited by Heroism on Oct 17, 2018 at 11:28 AM ]
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One of the traits of a good RB is getting more yards than what's being blocked for him. For example, a play that should gain only 2 yards, the RB makes it into a 4 yard gain. Here's an example of Breida showing he can do this.
Outside zone right vs okie 3-4 with the blue safety walking down to make 8 in the box.


At the snap, the playside 5t slants inside (orange). This is done to disrupt the run blocks, it stuns Person. At this moment, it looks like there could be a running lane in the playside B gap - to the right of Person.


There's that possible running lane, but Person is being pushed into the backfield.


Another angle showing Person pushed into the backfield.


So now Breida turns on the jets to beat red to the outside. Red is the force defender and has outside leverage on Kittle. There shouldn't be any success running to the outside here. Blue safety coming to clean up.


Breida beats red to the outside, then freezes the extra man in the box (blue) with a head/shoulder fake.


+9 on a good effort by Breida. Blocking was not optimal but he still turns it into a positive run.
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Originally posted by Heroism:
thl, can you break down the first Packers' play? It was hard to tell what happened from the broadcast. Was that spot drop cover 3? It kind of threw me off since it was 3x1.

Yup got that lined up. Frickin Ward has the zone awareness of a baked potato.

edit: wait nm I was talking about the 50+ yarder by Jimmy Graham. You are talking about a different play, my bad.
[ Edited by thl408 on Oct 17, 2018 at 11:51 AM ]
Originally posted by thl408:
Yup got that lined up. Frickin Ward has the zone awareness of a baked potato.

edit: wait nm I was talking about the 50+ yarder by Jimmy Graham. You are talking about a different play, my bad.

Different play same reason!
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Actually, my comment about Ward applies to GB's first play too.
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Originally posted by thl408:
Actually, my comment about Ward applies to GB's first play too.

He seems to take the first guy in his zone and follow him no matter where he goes. Teams have been running plays where the first WR sprints through the zone and a second, later WR, comes in wide open.
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