Deebo Samuel-WR-South Carolina

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Mookster:
Based on WRs not taken yet I'm pretty confident he'd be there at top of 3rd. My comment about 4th is because that's where I think he should be drafted. He's a WR/slot/PR/KR/RB kind of player. First 3 rounds need to excel at 1 position and translates that into a NFL starting role.

You're assuming that your rankings are correct. In reality, fans are mostly clueless on valuing players properly. You had many people here advocating for Metcalf to go in the early 1st. We're almost in the 3rd round and he and Butler are both still on the board.

Originally posted by NCommand:

So it looks like Kyle will use him as a primary Z (Bourne had 600 snaps there), in the slot, lots of slants/posts, gadget-WR out of the backfield, run blocking, kick returner, etc.

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by miked1978:

I like Deebo but I wanted AJ Brown. I also didnt want Dante Pettis last year. I trust that Kyle knows who he needs more than me.

Why?

Deebo is slightly faster, has a bigger vertical, bigger broad jump. Aside from a 1 inch height advantage, Deebo is better in almost every way than AJ Brown.

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Mankster:

Another scout said this:

Lance Zierlein of NFL.com, who compares Samuel to Pharoh Cooper, wrote the following about Samuel within his scouting report:

"Tyshun "Deebo" Samuel lives up to his nickname (it comes from a tough guy in the movie "Friday") and plays each game like he's stepping into an alley fight. While Samuel is tough and competitive, he lacks suddenness and might need scheme help with motion and bunch formations to help free him against NFL man coverage.

Reminds me of Stevie Smith - tough guy who wasn't fast but always open. Samuel is built about like Smith.

Smith - 5'9", 195 - played 16 seasons, ave 14.3/catch.
Samuel - 5'11", 215
Or, Pierre Garcon - 6', 212

Lacking suddenness could not be further from the truth

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What this team lacked was another short WR. This will certainly put us over the top. More short WR's was exactly what we need.....

lol, I'm with ya man. I hope they prove me wrong, but I hate that this is their prototype.

I hate that this is their prototype too. Can't we have just 1 big WR on this team? I know 2 is too much to ask for.

Originally posted by Mookster:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Mookster:
Based on WRs not taken yet I'm pretty confident he'd be there at top of 3rd. My comment about 4th is because that's where I think he should be drafted. He's a WR/slot/PR/KR/RB kind of player. First 3 rounds need to excel at 1 position and translates that into a NFL starting role.

You're assuming that your rankings are correct. In reality, fans are mostly clueless on valuing players properly. You had many people here advocating for Metcalf to go in the early 1st. We're almost in the 3rd round and he and Butler are both still on the board.

My assessment is purely that he's not a defined X, Z, slot or special teamer. Generally speaking the first 3 rounds are dominated by single position players who have a chance to start at a similar role. Drafting tweeners, multi-position and depth happens in rounds 4 .

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Mankster:
Another scout said this:

Lance Zierlein of NFL.com, who compares Samuel to Pharoh Cooper, wrote the following about Samuel within his scouting report:

"Tyshun "Deebo" Samuel lives up to his nickname (it comes from a tough guy in the movie "Friday") and plays each game like he's stepping into an alley fight. While Samuel is tough and competitive, he lacks suddenness and might need scheme help with motion and bunch formations to help free him against NFL man coverage.

Reminds me of Stevie Smith - tough guy who wasn't fast but always open. Samuel is built about like Smith.

Smith - 5'9", 195 - played 16 seasons, ave 14.3/catch.
Samuel - 5'11", 215
Or, Pierre Garcon - 6', 212

Lacking suddenness could not be further from the truth

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by miked1978:
I like Deebo but I wanted AJ Brown. I also didnt want Dante Pettis last year. I trust that Kyle knows who he needs more than me.

Why?

Deebo is slightly faster, has a bigger vertical, bigger broad jump. Aside from a 1 inch height advantage, Deebo is better in almost every way than AJ Brown.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Just wish he had that break away speed

You can have breakaway speed, but cant make people miss - same thing from a different perspective. What I like is RAC's in the WCO, and I dont recall Jerry Rice ever trying out for the olympics.

You don't need to be faster than every DB when you can create huge separation off of your route running and when the ball is in your hands you can break arm tackles with ease.

I can't see this kid failing to hit his ceiling if he stays healthy. Most knew the second they saw him eating at the senior bowl that Kyle would be in love. He's going to be our #1 WR before the end of the season. Deebo, Pettis, and Kittle have a chance to be one of the best receiving trio's in football.

Originally posted by Mookster:
My assessment is purely that he's not a defined X, Z, slot or special teamer. Generally speaking the first 3 rounds are dominated by single position players who have a chance to start at a similar role. Drafting tweeners, multi-position and depth happens in rounds 4+.

Originally posted by elguapo:
I believe this is our second round pick! I love Brown from Miss but I believe this guy will still be there

Originally posted by braap49er:

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Could have traded back and still got Deebo

How do you know? Do you know the future

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

What this team lacked was another short WR. This will certainly put us over the top. More short WR's was exactly what we need.....

lol, I'm with ya man. I hope they prove me wrong, but I hate that this is their prototype.

I hate that this is their prototype too. Can't we have just 1 big WR on this team? I know 2 is too much to ask for.

I don't think Lynch / Shanahan are good at working the draft.
Could have traded back and got Deebo plus a 3rd

Originally posted by 49ersOnMINE:
His footwork tho

https://mobile.twitter.com/draftnetworkllc/status/1088551843129634817