Mitch Wishnowsky - Punter (Utah) is a 49er

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by highway49:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by highway49:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by highway49:

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by highway49:

Seems to me he needs to get more " hang time " or air, ( and distance of course ),under his kickoffs to allow his teammates some help getting down the field on coverage...

I think kickoffs are harder to get hangtime compared to punting since the ball is in a different angle when kicked.

True, but some other teams kickers manage to do so consistently, ( sorry, I have no examples of who ), we just shouldn't be giving up that much field position on kickoffs. Maybe use a taller Tee.

We're 9th in the league at average starting position after a kickoff starting on average at the 24.5 yard line. It's not fantastic sure, but it's well above average.

Was that the average for this game against the Vikings?

The 30 with one big return.

Thanks for the calculations. "Go Niners"

30? List the starting field positions by drive. Is that accurate?

Also, how about on important (momentum) drives?

Originally posted by Jiks:

(9:25 - 1st) M.Wishnowsky kicks 63 yards from SF 35 to MIN 2. A.Abdullah to MIN 21 for 19 yards (R.Mostert).
-omg terrible starting at the 19

M.Wishnowsky punts 37 yards to MIN 13, Center-K.Nelson. M.Sherels MUFFS catch, and recovers at MIN 12. M.Sherels
-no way a punt muffed and downed at the 12

(7:02 - 2nd) M.Wishnowsky kicks 61 yards from SF 35 to MIN 4. A.Abdullah to MIN 43 for 39 yards (J.Ward).
-ok I'll give you this one

(4:49 - 3rd) M.Wishnowsky kicks 66 yards from SF 35 to MIN -1. A.Abdullah to MIN 28 for 29 yards (M.Nzeocha).
-OMG they started at the 28 3 yards

4th & 1 at SF 26(1:05 - 3rd) M.Wishnowsky punts 54 yards to MIN 20, Center-K.Nelson. M.Sherels MUFFS catch, touched at MIN 18, RECOVERED by SF-R.Mostert at MIN 10. R.Mostert to MIN 10 for no gain (M.Sherels).
-

If your going to use his punts/kicks to prove a point I think you need to use all of them. You forgot to mention his 4th Q punt when we were at our 19 instead of uncorking one and flipping the field like he did as you mentioned with the 65 yarder it went 36 yards and they started at the 45. Luckily our D was playing lights out. My point is he needs to become more consistent.
As far as his kickoffs I think he is being told to kick short as you can see he's kind of punching at it instead of following through.
This plan is not working I REALLY wish they would stop.
The first kickoff was -8 yards into the end zone for a TB so SP 25.
The next 5 were returned.
Yard line.
kicked to - Starting position
+2. 21
+3. 43
+3. 34
-1. 28
+5. 35
So 1 of the 5 was beneficial and the SP of the 5 returned kicks was 32.2 yard line
You can blame coaching or the coverage team it doesn't matter it is not working.

This. Is. Blasphemy.

Originally posted by NCommand:
This. Is. Blasphemy.

I'd like to report an egregious tabulation error, @PFWAwriters. An undrafted punter was selected to the all-rookie team. This is clearly a mistake.

— Oscar Aparicio (@BetterRivals) January 14, 2020

From Barrows mailbag:

Alex P. asks: Hey Matt, kicker question. I know, I know, don't beat me up. It seems a lot of 49ers kickoffs are being returned for substantial yardage with the kicks coming up short of the goal line. Is this by design or does Mitch Wishnowsky not quite have the leg? (I may still be a little punchy after the last home NFC Championship Game and special teams.)

No apologies needed, Alex. A lot of readers have asked this question. I know Wishnowsky is capable of booting it out of the end zone. He routinely does so on the first kick of the game, but I'm not sure why so many fall short. I will do my best to find out during the week.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Made a chart on NFL kickoff returns. It's probably flawed in some silly way as I am not super familiar with the dataset and I am also a dozy idiot (as evidenced by the fact this is my second bloody take of this tweet). But gotta start somewhere :) pic.twitter.com/TzzqI5oWID

— EuanDewar (@EuanDewar) January 15, 2020

So, it seems base on the stats, if I interpret correctly, in terms of kick off touchbacks, the team is average above average for the season. However, in terms of field position from kick-off, it is below average, which can be a result of (1) bad low and short kick offs, and/or (2) bad kick off return coverage

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Made a chart on NFL kickoff returns. It's probably flawed in some silly way as I am not super familiar with the dataset and I am also a dozy idiot (as evidenced by the fact this is my second bloody take of this tweet). But gotta start somewhere :) pic.twitter.com/TzzqI5oWID

— EuanDewar (@EuanDewar) January 15, 2020

So, it seems base on the stats, if I interpret correctly, in terms of kick off touchbacks, the team is average above average for the season. However, in terms of field position from kick-off, it is below average, which can be a result of (1) bad low and short kick offs, and/or (2) bad kick off return coverage

I'm reading it different, but I'm tired (not drunk)

We return on average to the 27.5 yard line of the kicks we return. However of the returnable kicks, we only try on 30% of them.

Originally posted by Jiks:
(9:25 - 1st) M.Wishnowsky kicks 63 yards from SF 35 to MIN 2. A.Abdullah to MIN 21 for 19 yards (R.Mostert).
-omg terrible starting at the 19

M.Wishnowsky punts 37 yards to MIN 13, Center-K.Nelson. M.Sherels MUFFS catch, and recovers at MIN 12. M.Sherels
-no way a punt muffed and downed at the 12

(7:02 - 2nd) M.Wishnowsky kicks 61 yards from SF 35 to MIN 4. A.Abdullah to MIN 43 for 39 yards (J.Ward).
-ok I'll give you this one

(4:49 - 3rd) M.Wishnowsky kicks 66 yards from SF 35 to MIN -1. A.Abdullah to MIN 28 for 29 yards (M.Nzeocha).
-OMG they started at the 28 3 yards

4th & 1 at SF 26(1:05 - 3rd) M.Wishnowsky punts 54 yards to MIN 20, Center-K.Nelson. M.Sherels MUFFS catch, touched at MIN 18, RECOVERED by SF-R.Mostert at MIN 10. R.Mostert to MIN 10 for no gain (M.Sherels).
-

Thanks for the support Jiks. I'm doing my best and ready to kick the s**t out of the cheesheads.
cheers Mitch

Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Don't we have anyone else to do kickoffs? We need someone that can just kick it to the endzone. With our defense, we don't want the ST to screw them over.

I agree - he needs to kick it through the end zone. All his kicks are inside the 5 and getting returned.

Originally posted by Oilcan:

If your going to use his punts/kicks to prove a point I think you need to use all of them. You forgot to mention his 4th Q punt when we were at our 19 instead of uncorking one and flipping the field like he did as you mentioned with the 65 yarder it went 36 yards and they started at the 45. Luckily our D was playing lights out. My point is he needs to become more consistent.
As far as his kickoffs I think he is being told to kick short as you can see he's kind of punching at it instead of following through.
This plan is not working I REALLY wish they would stop.
The first kickoff was -8 yards into the end zone for a TB so SP 25.
The next 5 were returned.
Yard line.
kicked to - Starting position
+2. 21
+3. 43
+3. 34
-1. 28
+5. 35
So 1 of the 5 was beneficial and the SP of the 5 returned kicks was 32.2 yard line
You can blame coaching or the coverage team it doesn't matter it is not working.

Bingo. Hopefully Maiocco gets to the bottom of it but it certainly seems more of a Hightower issue than Mitch.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
If your going to use his punts/kicks to prove a point I think you need to use all of them. You forgot to mention his 4th Q punt when we were at our 19 instead of uncorking one and flipping the field like he did as you mentioned with the 65 yarder it went 36 yards and they started at the 45. Luckily our D was playing lights out. My point is he needs to become more consistent.
As far as his kickoffs I think he is being told to kick short as you can see he's kind of punching at it instead of following through.
This plan is not working I REALLY wish they would stop.
The first kickoff was -8 yards into the end zone for a TB so SP 25.
The next 5 were returned.
Yard line.
kicked to - Starting position
+2. 21
+3. 43
+3. 34
-1. 28
+5. 35
So 1 of the 5 was beneficial and the SP of the 5 returned kicks was 32.2 yard line
You can blame coaching or the coverage team it doesn't matter it is not working.

Bingo. Hopefully Maiocco gets to the bottom of it but it certainly seems more of a Hightower issue than Mitch.

Well with Witherspoon going to play on Special Teams that is all going to change now. He will run down there quick as lightening and stop those return guys. All we need it Pettis there to slap him on the butt when he does and it would be perfect.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Well with Witherspoon going to play on Special Teams that is all going to change now. He will run down there quick as lightening and stop those return guys. All we need it Pettis there to slap him on the butt when he does and it would be perfect.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Made a chart on NFL kickoff returns. It's probably flawed in some silly way as I am not super familiar with the dataset and I am also a dozy idiot (as evidenced by the fact this is my second bloody take of this tweet). But gotta start somewhere :) pic.twitter.com/TzzqI5oWID

— EuanDewar (@EuanDewar) January 15, 2020

So, it seems base on the stats, if I interpret correctly, in terms of kick off touchbacks, the team is average above average for the season. However, in terms of field position from kick-off, it is below average, which can be a result of (1) bad low and short kick offs, and/or (2) bad kick off return coverage

I'm reading it different, but I'm tired (not drunk)

We return on average to the 27.5 yard line of the kicks we return. However of the returnable kicks, we only try on 30% of them.

You are correct. So I guess Richie James is actually doing a good job in kick return.

A special teams question. Some of the kickoffs fall short of the goal line. They've been run back fairly far these last few weeks. Is that by design? Does P Mitch Wishnowsky have the leg?

"It wasn't by design. I think Mitch just missed a few. And on top of that, I think it was pretty windy out, he didn't have the best weather for it. So, when you have those conditions and you're not kicking it as well as you usually do, I think that's what the result was."

Kicking it towards the north end zone more difficult because that's where the wind is usually coming from?

"I believe so."

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/133443-transcript-shanahan-discusses-49ers-packers-george-kittle-jimmie-season/

In a nutshell, it's on Wish. The weather I'm sure makes a difference, but for the most part it's Wish not kicking it well enough.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

A special teams question. Some of the kickoffs fall short of the goal line. They've been run back fairly far these last few weeks. Is that by design? Does P Mitch Wishnowsky have the leg?

"It wasn't by design. I think Mitch just missed a few. And on top of that, I think it was pretty windy out, he didn't have the best weather for it. So, when you have those conditions and you're not kicking it as well as you usually do, I think that's what the result was."

Kicking it towards the north end zone more difficult because that's where the wind is usually coming from?

"I believe so."

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/133443-transcript-shanahan-discusses-49ers-packers-george-kittle-jimmie-season/

In a nutshell, it's on Wish. The weather I'm sure makes a difference, but for the most part it's Wish not kicking it well enough.

We need someone else kicking kickoffs. Wishnowsky is always putting our defense in a bad position.