2019 PRACTICE SQUAD THREAD

Originally posted by NCommand:

How important is the Week 1 practice squad? Eight of the 10 players on the #49ers' original practice squad last year eventually made the active roster. That includes Nick Mullens, Jeff Wilson and Ross Dwelley.

— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) September 1, 2019

I think we still have a shot at trading CJ. I mean the trade deadline isn't until sometime in October. By then, theres going to be injuries from the QB position, and I think ShanaLynch is gambling that they can get better value later in the year from CJ. Flacco isn't the most mobile guy on the planet, and he's old and usually if you are older, you suffer a lot more dings and divots than a younger guy. If Flacco gets concussed or a rib injury, I can see CJ garnering a midround pick in that situation.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

But I think Lynch and Shanny Do think Blair is a cornerstone player that can not beat out our number ones on the line, but would be starting for many other teams. He's our rotational player to keep people fresh, inside and if necessary out on a selected down and distance and game situational basis. It's not who you get. It's who you lose. Who ya gonna cut?

Oh this is no slight on Blair at all. I agree with Hero that because of the new alignments, he's in for quite possibly, his best year. This is about a healthy rotation under the assumption we're running wide 9 every down like we saw almost all pre season. Like with the interior DL, you need a rotational player right behind him. That's Blair AND Moore for both Ford and Bosa.

Originally posted by Giedi:

I think Blair is a good Edge Rusher backup vs Moore. I think he's younger and has a bit more upside. Blair also can play inside - with his versatility. So I think they were thinking that Blair can spell both Ford and Bosa when they get fatigued, and so can Solomon. Now, Solomon isn't an edge rusher, but again - just to spell Bosa and Ford, I think that's something he can do, and again, Blair is there.

On pure ER ability and scheme fit, I'd say from what I saw from Moore, he's a better fit to grow into the 3rd ER.

But again, different alignments call for different skill sets.

If we were running Saleh's Big End/LEO again predominantly, then I'd want different edge players such as AA, ST, RB, etc.

So symbolically, when Saleh let Moore go, that MIGHT be a huge sign we're going back to more Big End/LEO again.

Originally posted by Giedi:

I think we still have a shot at trading CJ. I mean the trade deadline isn't until sometime in October. By then, theres going to be injuries from the QB position, and I think ShanaLynch is gambling that they can get better value later in the year from CJ. Flacco isn't the most mobile guy on the planet, and he's old and usually if you are older, you suffer a lot more dings and divots than a younger guy. If Flacco gets concussed or a rib injury, I can see CJ garnering a midround pick in that situation.

Maybe. I just don't see any evidence there is Anybody ini the league that thinks CJ is an NFL quarterback beside Kyle. I love Kyle, but I think his weakness is having favorites. If only CJ hadn't seen him stuffing that body. , ,

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

How important is the Week 1 practice squad? Eight of the 10 players on the #49ers' original practice squad last year eventually made the active roster. That includes Nick Mullens, Jeff Wilson and Ross Dwelley.

— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) September 1, 2019

I think we still have a shot at trading CJ. I mean the trade deadline isn't until sometime in October. By then, theres going to be injuries from the QB position, and I think ShanaLynch is gambling that they can get better value later in the year from CJ. Flacco isn't the most mobile guy on the planet, and he's old and usually if you are older, you suffer a lot more dings and divots than a younger guy. If Flacco gets concussed or a rib injury, I can see CJ garnering a midround pick in that situation.

Flacco's been injured once in 12 years. He's 34, not 80. He's also 6'6'' 245. The Broncos picked up the scrub backup who will never see the field today. I'm not convinced the Broncos were ever interested in CJ. Mullens yes.

Try another team.

Edit - 10 1/4 years as a starter, 11 years in the NFL

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Flacco's been injured once in 12 years. He's 34, not 80. He's also 6'6'' 245. The Broncos picked up the scrub backup who will never see the field today. I'm not convinced the Broncos were ever interested in CJ. Mullens yes.

Try another team.

+1

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Maybe. I just don't see any evidence there is Anybody ini the league that thinks CJ is an NFL quarterback beside Kyle. I love Kyle, but I think his weakness is having favorites. If only CJ hadn't seen him stuffing that body. , ,

Can we trade CJ to the XFL?!

Originally posted by NCommand:

3rd round talent and lead all ER's with 17 QB pressures and 3 sacks and played from both sides, stuffing TFL, blowing up screens, playing with an arm cast and still standing out.

As to his past, sounds like he needed to grow up. Kid was fighting hard, had a kid and now he has vision and purpose, something Saleh talked about.

To each his own but if we're running AA, ST and RB out there at end, I don't wanna hear about the lack of QB pressures and sacks. From a skill set perspective, I saw more in one pre season game from him than AA, ST & RB combined. Those are NOT edge rushers esp. in a W9.

3rd round pick in 2013. 10 career sacks in 6 NFL seasons with like 10 different teams along with a stint in the AAF. Doesn't sound like much of an a pass rusher at all.


And are we really citing preseason stats like they actually mean a thing in any possible sense? Really? We already know that dude can tee off against scrubs.


Unfortunately teams aren't going to acquiesce to the 49ers by putting in their third string linemen so that Moore might have a fighting chance.


I'll happily do a $100 Paypal bet that this guy will wind up in the XFL despite all his "vision and purpose." You down?

Originally posted by WerschingMachine:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Maybe. I just don't see any evidence there is Anybody ini the league that thinks CJ is an NFL quarterback beside Kyle. I love Kyle, but I think his weakness is having favorites. If only CJ hadn't seen him stuffing that body. , ,

Can we trade CJ to the XFL?!

Originally posted by BOI49er:
But I think Lynch and Shanny Do think Blair is a cornerstone player that can not beat out our number ones on the line, but would be starting for many other teams. He's our rotational player to keep people fresh, inside and if necessary out on a selected down and distance and game situational basis. It's not who you get. It's who you lose. Who ya gonna cut?

For me personally, I can't wait to get rid of Armstead next year. You guys saying this and that about some of these guys being XFL talents. s**t. I could say that about most of the DL besides a handful of players based on the production alone.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Which means any of 32 teams can pick him up, including us, and Nobody did.

Here is what I think is going on. Fan's are looking for player balance by position, for This Year. Lynch and Shanahan are looking to lock in the best players going forward building for that Super Bowl. They are not sacrificing better talent that can be useful in a SB run for a better position fit this year with average or backup players in the unlikely event we have multiple injuries at a given position. Might that mean someone plays out of position at some point? Small chance per position, but that's why the emphasis on versatility. Is that ideal? No. Does that preserve our talent build up? Yes, because you can only add so much talent per year. Don't spend your capital on average players that aren't going to help you when you need them.

So just maybe a DT will have to fill in at Edge, but in a couple of years when this physical game takes a toll an a few players, we've still got that DT, and didn't have to forgo filling in another position of need. Same with CB filling in at safety. Takes multiple injuries to cause a move, so take that chance for our long term progress.

My take: Lynch and Shanahan have their eyes on the ball, and that is multiple Lombardi's, and they're not going to let short term expediency and practice glory get in the way. Nobody is counting second place finishes. Good and better does not get you past 31 teams.

Smart teams win Super Bowls, and we haven't been that since 1994. Now, I think we are.

Fair enough

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Flacco's been injured once in 12 years. He's 34, not 80. He's also 6'6'' 245. The Broncos picked up the scrub backup who will never see the field today. I'm not convinced the Broncos were ever interested in CJ. Mullens yes.

Try another team.

Edit - 10 1/4 years as a starter, 11 years in the NFL

Flacco has been hurt a lot lately but plays through it. It's been widely discussed . I still wouldn't be too concerned if I were Elway.

https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player/joe-flacco/244

Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:
Flacco's been injured once in 12 years. He's 34, not 80. He's also 6'6'' 245. The Broncos picked up the scrub backup who will never see the field today. I'm not convinced the Broncos were ever interested in CJ. Mullens yes.

Try another team.

Edit - 10 1/4 years as a starter, 11 years in the NFL

Flacco has been hurt a lot lately but plays through it. It's been widely discussed . I still wouldn't be too concerned if I were Elway.

https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player/joe-flacco/244

It's interesting. He had two that didn't cost him time - an off-season injury and a concussion (which he's probably had 50 in his football career) - and one which allegedly got him benched last year. The article doesn't mention that last year the Ravens were losing and in danger of being knocked out of the AFC North race and that the Ravens #1 draft pick QBOTF happened to be sitting on the bench.

It does put things in context but I'm not buying it. He's only really missed time in his career once in 2015. Last year seems really fishy to me. 39% chance of injury this year seems ridiculously high to me if you are talking about missing games.

We will see this season, and more importantly for the Broncs, they'll see. If Flacco does get hurt and Lock's not back and ready to play in the NFL, their season is over.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

3rd round pick in 2013. 10 career sacks in 6 NFL seasons with like 10 different teams along with a stint in the AAF. Doesn't sound like much of an a pass rusher at all.


And are we really citing preseason stats like they actually mean a thing in any possible sense? Really? We already know that dude can tee off against scrubs.


Unfortunately teams aren't going to acquiesce to the 49ers by putting in their third string linemen so that Moore might have a fighting chance.


I'll happily do a $100 Paypal bet that this guy will wind up in the XFL despite all his "vision and purpose." You down?

Hard to say but XFL is very possible given he just lead the AAF in sacks too...another B-league and pre season PFF warrior? Maybe.

But then he comes here and in limited snaps, shows a similar growth pattern making the most of his opportunities which is more than I can say for some players currently on the roster. I mean, if a player who does lead the pre season in QB pressures has no real shot, why even bring him in?

Some players take longer to develop, grow up, were in the poor circumstances, never got a real opportunity, etc.

All you should evaluate is what he does here NOW. And what he did here is why you're in a very small minority of fans who didn't want him (or maybe you did but are just towing the FO-support line?).

What exactly was it about your evaluations of his skill set did you not like? Edge rushing is one of the better translational skill sets from any level to the NFL.

No need for a silly bet as there are dozens of NFL players that slip through cracks every year and are never picked up for the very reasons you noted (and more). Some do get second and eight chances to prove themselves like Jimmie Ward (but do end up succeeding).

But hey, if you're cool running a wide 9 with AA and ST, enjoy the comedic performance again. Good times!

Also, it doesn't have to be Moore...we still need a legit ER with that skill set if we indeed plan on running a W9. Blair is a hybrid; one that I certainly feel more comfortable with over AA and ST though.

3 QBs is our insurance in the event Jimmy G's knee flairs up in the pressure of the regular season.

I would think it insane not to have both Mullens and CJ there in case. Last year when Jimmy got hurt CJ came in and then he got hurt. Now we have three QBs who know the playbook with two backups who can at least get straight out there and keep things going.

We waive one when we are secure with Jimmy's reliability to be injury free, then we have the luxury of signing another young QB to develop on the PS.

Kyle and Lynch are being sensibly conservative with this move.

Originally posted by NCommand:

How important is the Week 1 practice squad? Eight of the 10 players on the #49ers' original practice squad last year eventually made the active roster. That includes Nick Mullens, Jeff Wilson and Ross Dwelley.

— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) September 1, 2019

Mark my words, our practice squad is gonna get raided. Players like Marcell Harris and Jeff Wilson won't last there (hope I'm wrong). But honestly, unlike past years I'm actually good with it this year. Shanny & Co. have shown me that they can find and identify talent, and are above average at actually developing players.