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  • jcs
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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Yeah, it became ridiculous to see Rodgers just go to Adams. He was targeted 18 times in the game on 32 throws - while he was in the game. They took one throw after he got obliterated by Ward. Literally over half of Rodgers's throws went to Adams.

Imagine what the WZ would say about Jimmy if he threw half his passes to Aiyuk and won a game:
ANYONE CAN WIN WITH THAT KIND OF RECEIVER!!!!!!
LOL.

I wouldn't care who Jimmy threw the ball to if he WON THE GAME. But he lost the game. 2 turnovers resulted in 3 points (thanks to our defense) and we lost by 2.

So what about the other 27 points surrendered by the defense?

That's thanks to our defense too.
Cover 2 and Cover 3 cloud

The corners should never be left alone

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[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 1, 2021 at 3:14 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:

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Yeah I wrote out a transcript of the whole part of that in the Jimmy thread.
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by jcs:
Thank You....

Hope the Haters watch this with an open mind.

I mean, we'll see. I think my reputation is already set in stone with some folks.

Who gives AF jonny, there's a whole lot more here that loves your work and appreciates what you do for us than don't. Not everyone will agree on everything, including me, but personally that's one of the main reasons I come here so much to discuss/debate/fight/etc.. with guys that love football and this team as much as I do! Thanks as always brother 🤙🏾

Agreed. And remember, those that disagree with you tend to be much, much louder than those that agree.

And with at best 2 dimensional vacuous analyzes's of the plays.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by NCommand:

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Yeah I wrote out a transcript of the whole part of that in the Jimmy thread.

Good breakdown Jonny. We are in your debt.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Well, I took a look at a bunch of things - I wanted to touch on a number of the close call throws but got bogged down - sorry. In all, I was covering 23 plays so it just became too much to add anything more on this week. Sorry it got out so late, I didn't get the film until real late on Tuesday night then worked 12 hours on Wednesday. It's after 10:30 PM where I'm at so I don't have much energy to put in to a better write-up.


Great breakdown as ever bud. The interior OL was oof. Mack and Brunskill had a really tough game. I'm hoping that doesn't continue. Jimmy did play well, I'm just wishing we can get things started in the first half more often than not.

Agreed all around.
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
I wouldn't care who Jimmy threw the ball to if he WON THE GAME. But he lost the game. 2 turnovers resulted in 3 points (thanks to our defense) and we lost by 2.

People see what they want I guess. To my eyes Jimmy put his team ahead with 37 seconds left on the clock and GB without any timeouts. 80 times out of 100 that's probably a win. He did his job at the end and wasn't even on the field when Rodgers abused our defense to put his team in a position to get that last second field goal. Not sure how that equates to Jimmy 'losing' the game. Besides I thought wins and losses were a 'team' stat. You guys can't keep having it both ways. If the team wins together than it loses together as well. I have no doubt at all that if Lance had been in on that last drive and scored people in here would be going on and on about how the defense let him down.
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
I wouldn't care who Jimmy threw the ball to if he WON THE GAME. But he lost the game. 2 turnovers resulted in 3 points (thanks to our defense) and we lost by 2.

People see what they want I guess. To my eyes Jimmy put his team ahead with 37 seconds left on the clock and GB without any timeouts. 80 times out of 100 that's probably a win. He did his job at the end and wasn't even on the field when Rodgers abused our defense to put his team in a position to get that last second field goal. Not sure how that equates to Jimmy 'losing' the game. Besides I thought wins and losses were a 'team' stat. You guys can't keep having it both ways. If the team wins together than it loses together as well. I have no doubt at all that if Lance had been in on that last drive and scored people in here would be going on and on about how the defense let him down.

That's true with most QBs but Rodgers isn't most QBs. If the situation had been reversed I doubt that Jimmy could have done what Rodgers did. Not many QBs can. He made 2 good throws ( one very good throw) at a crucial time. Plus you had to consider that the Niner defense was vulnerable with all the injuries. That's why I wanted to see them take a little more time off that clock. They could have use dup another 11 seconds and then called time out and run that same play. If it didn't work they still had another timeout and could try a different play. If it succeeded like it did then there's 11 fewer seconds for Rodgers.
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Originally posted by 9moon:
the best way to explain the Green Bay game is that our coaching staff did not prepare the team until in the 2nd half..
This is unfair.

You really don't know what a team is doing until you have a good sample of plays. It takes time for the coaches to come up with a good counter punch and half time is usually a good time to sit down with everyone and say, "Hey guys, this is what they're doing and what we need to do to counter." It's hard to make huge changes in the heat of battle.

... AND this is why TEAMS (not just ours) get into a situation they don't want to be in..

I'm not sure how long you've bee a 49er fan, because Bill Walsh used to emphasize in his offensive meetings that our offense must always " BEAT THE OPPOSITION TO THE PUNCH "..

.. and our coaching staff did not have this plan going into the game..

.... as for the ability to make an adjustment in the heat of the battle - ONLY GREAT COACHES are able to do that..
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
I wouldn't care who Jimmy threw the ball to if he WON THE GAME. But he lost the game. 2 turnovers resulted in 3 points (thanks to our defense) and we lost by 2.

People see what they want I guess. To my eyes Jimmy put his team ahead with 37 seconds left on the clock and GB without any timeouts. 80 times out of 100 that's probably a win. He did his job at the end and wasn't even on the field when Rodgers abused our defense to put his team in a position to get that last second field goal. Not sure how that equates to Jimmy 'losing' the game. Besides I thought wins and losses were a 'team' stat. You guys can't keep having it both ways. If the team wins together than it loses together as well. I have no doubt at all that if Lance had been in on that last drive and scored people in here would be going on and on about how the defense let him down.

That's true with most QBs but Rodgers isn't most QBs. If the situation had been reversed I doubt that Jimmy could have done what Rodgers did. Not many QBs can. He made 2 good throws ( one very good throw) at a crucial time. Plus you had to consider that the Niner defense was vulnerable with all the injuries. That's why I wanted to see them take a little more time off that clock. They could have use dup another 11 seconds and then called time out and run that same play. If it didn't work they still had another timeout and could try a different play. If it succeeded like it did then there's 11 fewer seconds for Rodgers.

Injuries had nothing to do with the loss. They left adams wide open through poor design and execution by rookies. They also kicked the fg with 3 sec on the clock. Questions we should be asking are why were rookies covering Adam's who had 17 targets at that point? Why did we kick a touch back and preserve all 37 sec on the kickoff when a squib kick would have run off 4 to 6 sec easy?
[ Edited by jcs on Oct 2, 2021 at 10:06 AM ]
Good drop
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
I wouldn't care who Jimmy threw the ball to if he WON THE GAME. But he lost the game. 2 turnovers resulted in 3 points (thanks to our defense) and we lost by 2.

People see what they want I guess. To my eyes Jimmy put his team ahead with 37 seconds left on the clock and GB without any timeouts. 80 times out of 100 that's probably a win. He did his job at the end and wasn't even on the field when Rodgers abused our defense to put his team in a position to get that last second field goal. Not sure how that equates to Jimmy 'losing' the game. Besides I thought wins and losses were a 'team' stat. You guys can't keep having it both ways. If the team wins together than it loses together as well. I have no doubt at all that if Lance had been in on that last drive and scored people in here would be going on and on about how the defense let him down.

That's true with most QBs but Rodgers isn't most QBs. If the situation had been reversed I doubt that Jimmy could have done what Rodgers did. Not many QBs can. He made 2 good throws ( one very good throw) at a crucial time. Plus you had to consider that the Niner defense was vulnerable with all the injuries. That's why I wanted to see them take a little more time off that clock. They could have use dup another 11 seconds and then called time out and run that same play. If it didn't work they still had another timeout and could try a different play. If it succeeded like it did then there's 11 fewer seconds for Rodgers.

Injuries had nothing to do with the loss. They left adams wide open through poor design and execution by rookies. They also kicked the fg with 3 sec on the clock. Questions we should be asking are why were rookies covering Adam's who had 17 targets at that point? Why did we kick a touch back and preserve all 37 sec on the kickoff when a squib kick would have run off 4 to 6 sec easy?

Hightower said they didn't want to kick it to the guy that had a 41 yd return the previous week. They trusted their defense more than their ability to contain that guy on a kickoff.
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Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
I wouldn't care who Jimmy threw the ball to if he WON THE GAME. But he lost the game. 2 turnovers resulted in 3 points (thanks to our defense) and we lost by 2.

People see what they want I guess. To my eyes Jimmy put his team ahead with 37 seconds left on the clock and GB without any timeouts. 80 times out of 100 that's probably a win. He did his job at the end and wasn't even on the field when Rodgers abused our defense to put his team in a position to get that last second field goal. Not sure how that equates to Jimmy 'losing' the game. Besides I thought wins and losses were a 'team' stat. You guys can't keep having it both ways. If the team wins together than it loses together as well. I have no doubt at all that if Lance had been in on that last drive and scored people in here would be going on and on about how the defense let him down.

That's true with most QBs but Rodgers isn't most QBs. If the situation had been reversed I doubt that Jimmy could have done what Rodgers did. Not many QBs can. He made 2 good throws ( one very good throw) at a crucial time. Plus you had to consider that the Niner defense was vulnerable with all the injuries. That's why I wanted to see them take a little more time off that clock. They could have use dup another 11 seconds and then called time out and run that same play. If it didn't work they still had another timeout and could try a different play. If it succeeded like it did then there's 11 fewer seconds for Rodgers.

Injuries had nothing to do with the loss. They left adams wide open through poor design and execution by rookies. They also kicked the fg with 3 sec on the clock. Questions we should be asking are why were rookies covering Adam's who had 17 targets at that point? Why did we kick a touch back and preserve all 37 sec on the kickoff when a squib kick would have run off 4 to 6 sec easy?

Hightower said they didn't want to kick it to the guy that had a 41 yd return the previous week. They trusted their defense more than their ability to contain that guy on a kickoff.

And that's a cop out. Time was the issue, not a return and a squib can be targeted away from the designated returner. I hate Hightower and that was a good example of a coach admitting he was coaching "afraid" of making a mistake.
[ Edited by jcs on Oct 2, 2021 at 10:33 AM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
I wouldn't care who Jimmy threw the ball to if he WON THE GAME. But he lost the game. 2 turnovers resulted in 3 points (thanks to our defense) and we lost by 2.

People see what they want I guess. To my eyes Jimmy put his team ahead with 37 seconds left on the clock and GB without any timeouts. 80 times out of 100 that's probably a win. He did his job at the end and wasn't even on the field when Rodgers abused our defense to put his team in a position to get that last second field goal. Not sure how that equates to Jimmy 'losing' the game. Besides I thought wins and losses were a 'team' stat. You guys can't keep having it both ways. If the team wins together than it loses together as well. I have no doubt at all that if Lance had been in on that last drive and scored people in here would be going on and on about how the defense let him down.

That's true with most QBs but Rodgers isn't most QBs. If the situation had been reversed I doubt that Jimmy could have done what Rodgers did. Not many QBs can. He made 2 good throws ( one very good throw) at a crucial time. Plus you had to consider that the Niner defense was vulnerable with all the injuries. That's why I wanted to see them take a little more time off that clock. They could have use dup another 11 seconds and then called time out and run that same play. If it didn't work they still had another timeout and could try a different play. If it succeeded like it did then there's 11 fewer seconds for Rodgers.

LOL, what? Jimmy just drove them on a long massive clutch game winning drive that should have iced the game.

If you gave Jimmy 37 seconds with no TO's with nobody covering Deebo, his primary read, within 15 yards twice, I'm fairly confident Jimmy could pull that off. With 37 seconds you only have time to hit your primary read.

Talk about a backwards way of thinking.
[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 2, 2021 at 10:38 AM ]
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