QB Brock Purdy Thread

I mentioned on the game thread that maybe most of our offensive struggles this year specially in the red zone has to do with his arm strength, his inability to put a good zip on the ball. I think defense have adjusted to this and just run man most if the time which disrupt timing, which means your base is not gonna be set. For brocks case it's hard for him to put zip on his throw without his base.
I feel like that's the reason why this year we haven't really seen much of his patented throw in the middle between the linebackers and safeties

Originally posted by JimmyUnderrated:
I suspect most people here, and fans in general, don't watch the games, and either look at box scores, or listen to the media to tell them who the "good" QBs are.

It's why hardly any fans recognize the fact that Patrick Mahomes is the most overrated athlete in the history of organized sports. The dude rarely does anything more than hit the ocean from a rowboat (and on short, underneath throws, at that), and yet since the media made him the face of the NFL, we're expected to believe he's somehow the "GOAT" as his defense carries him to SB win after SB win.

Try watching the Aaron Rodgers highlights video on Youtube and then come back here and tell me Mahomes is the "GOAT" with a straight face. It's utterly laughable.

Watching the games, you see that Brock has NOT played well this year, and while I agree that the Brock of last season is better than Jimmy ever was, Jimmy was better in 2019 than the current Brock, and I'm not even sure the current Brock is better than Jimmy was in 2021.

The only things Brock has on Jimmy now is durability, mobility, and attempting vertical throws. Jimmy had a much quicker release and was a quicker processor.

Brock has been even more inaccurate than Jimmy was in 2021, aside from the deep ball (where he has been underthrowing people constantly this year), where Jimmy was the worst I've ever seen.

When you actually compare Brock to other starting QBs, he's arguably bottom 5 in accuracy this year. Watch some videos of Kirk Cousins, for example, and you'll see that Cousins is as accurate as Brock was LAST YEAR. Only he's a much better processor.

Brock has been inaccurate even in his supposed "good games." Watch the TD he threw to Jennings at the back of the endzone on the rollout against the Rams. He threw it so far behind Jennings he almost gave the defensive back a play on the ball and it could have been picked. This is a routine throw. People were blaming Aiyuk for "dropping" balls thrown behind him. Even the Ronnie Bell drop was on a ball where Bell had an outside vertical release and Brock threw a poor ball that he hung inside, and Bell did a great job of adjusting to it.

Just as importantly, Brock is not a good processor, despite people assuming he must be because of where he was drafted and his success in the league. What Brock has is a photographic memory. He knows where all of his guys are supposed to be on a play, but he can't adjust mentally. He doesn't react well to what defenses do. When he guesses wrong pre-snap, he ends up either throwing to the defense, throwing it to an area that the receiver doesn't run to because the receiver adjusted and Brock didn't, or double clutching when he realizes he's about to throw a bad ball, as he has done multiple times this year. Brock's style is to throw earlier than any QB, when the receiver is halfway up his stem, and anticipate a route the receiver might not even run.

The reason to not pay him is simple: He's not the guy. The 49ers could trade for Kirk Cousins instead and get a 2016 Falcons type offense.

This poster is correct and nobody here wants to hear it.

That interception is another example of Brock predetermining the throw and not processing.

Brock looks bad because defenses figured out he only throws short passes unless there is blown coverage downfield

Brock can only beat bad defenses

I have always said he is backup level not a starter

Jimmy g threw downfield better than purdy and we were generally more dynamic with him we are a.move the chains team. One holding call and we are f u ked

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
You didn't mention the Mahomes stats at all until now. Not once.

Who cares if a touchdown pass was behind the receiver? It resulted in a touchdown. Literally THE best possible result of a pass. If a pass is underthrown but a better pass would have resulted in a better play, then by all means criticize it. But it was the best possible outcome so who cares?

Yes Purdy has underthrown passes this year and he has rightfully been criticized for them.

Anything else? Or are you into your third or fourth account for the week?

Are you seriously this bad at reading comprehension?

Mahomes's stats are to show that it's a fact he's a dink and dunk merchant, despite your claim that nothing in the post is a fact. It's not even debatable.

The point of mentioning the Jennings touchdown is it's a representation of how inaccurate he has been this year. He got lucky on that play, but there have been many other plays where he has been off target and it negatively affected the play or led to an incompletion.

Originally posted by kyleburkle:
Jimmy g threw downfield better than purdy and we were generally more dynamic with him we are a.move the chains team. One holding call and we are f u ked

This just isn't true at all

Purdys Stats are massively over inflated from having major yac yards In his best year

Originally posted by jed_X:
I mentioned on the game thread that maybe most of our offensive struggles this year specially in the red zone has to do with his arm strength, his inability to put a good zip on the ball. I think defense have adjusted to this and just run man most if the time which disrupt timing, which means your base is not gonna be set. For brocks case it's hard for him to put zip on his throw without his base.
I feel like that's the reason why this year we haven't really seen much of his patended throw in the middle between the linebackers and safeties

This. I just watched Herbert throw a 25 yard laser in the seam for a TD. Brock hasn't or doesn't seem to be able to make that throw.

He's getting worse not better....

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
This. I just watched Herbert throw a 25 yard laser in the seam for a TD. Brock hasn't or doesn't seem to be able to make that throw.

Why make him the franchise QB then?

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
This. I just watched Herbert throw a 25 yard laser in the seam for a TD. Brock hasn't or doesn't seem to be able to make that throw.

Why make him the franchise QB then?

Exactly. We shouldn't.

If he gets 60mil next offseason, lmao! He's under contract for another year, just let it ride!

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
This. I just watched Herbert throw a 25 yard laser in the seam for a TD. Brock hasn't or doesn't seem to be able to make that throw.

Why make him the franchise QB then?

Exactly. We shouldn't.

What's odd is that it seems like he used to be able to. Maybe I'm misremembering his first couple years.

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
This. I just watched Herbert throw a 25 yard laser in the seam for a TD. Brock hasn't or doesn't seem to be able to make that throw.

Why make him the franchise QB then?

Exactly. We shouldn't.

What's odd is that it seems like he used to be able to. Maybe I'm misremembering his first couple years.

Originally posted by Predator85:
If he gets 60mil next offseason, lmao! He's under contract for another year, just let it ride!

Right and we can always tag him.

Brock is better than Jimmy, but he's not all world. Fans will point to his stats, but he's played with a stacked roster and now that all his weapons are not always available we're starting to see that he doesn't always perform above par. We've spent the last two years attacking guys like Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe, but those guys saw something we refused to acknowledge.

is he a good quarterback? yes. Is he a franchise quarterback? Depends on how you define him. If you think he's your centerpiece and you build a team around him (like Mahomes or Jackson), then he is not. If you define franchise QB as just being a piece of the bigger pie (like Flacco, Brad Johnson) then you have a good option. Except with that you need a lot of pieces to prop him up, and if you start missing players he's not going to overcome those deficits very often…