Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Kyle Shanahan is 9-29 without Jimmy or Brock. He is not Andy Reid. He can not succeed with mediocre QBs.
lol you may as well said "he's not belicheck"
Reid hasn't don't anything with mediocre QBs
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Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Kyle Shanahan is 9-29 without Jimmy or Brock. He is not Andy Reid. He can not succeed with mediocre QBs.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Leathaface:You've seen it first hand in 2022, well I assume you did
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:If our team is healthy we can get by on our back ups
Originally posted by random49er:
Take away Lamar Jackson and Baltimore's QB room is pathetic. Same for Mahomes and KC.
What point are you attempting to make here?
If you take away most team's starting QB, their QB room becomes pathetic. Including ours.
Are you out of your mind? The 49ers can get by with Brandon Allen and Josh Dobbs "if our team is healthy" (whatever that means)?
These are stupid conversations.
Did we forget how the Ravens didn't completely unravel when Lamar got hurt in 21 and 22? How the Chiefs didn't just completely implode when Henne had to play for Mahomes in the playoffs?
If a team is good enough and "healthy" enough they can withstand losing even those guys. If the team has holes mediocre/bad QBs will make them much bigger.
Without Lamar the Ravens still have Derrick Henry. Without Mahomes the Chiefs still have their defense.
Take Purdy out of this team and we're getting our asses handed to us on a platter.
People have to stop worrying about other teams. Purdy is here. I honestly don't care about him getting top X recognition. As long as he's helping us win games that's all I care about.
how's Balt's 2021 season not unraveling when it ended with Lamar hurt and adding a large losing streak which they missed the playoffs
or Balt's 2022 season ending in another losing streak to be a one and done in the playoffs
and how is KC going to unravel with Henne playing only one qtr?
After Purdy's brief showing in Mex City, no one was confident in him to do what we did to finish the season.
I'm more confident that we can do more than other teams with a back up QB when healthy was my point.
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Kyle Shanahan is 9-29 without Jimmy or Brock. He is not Andy Reid. He can not succeed with mediocre QBs.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Vikings this year. 49ers 2022. 49ers 2012
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Vikings this year. 49ers 2022. 49ers 2012
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Vikings this year. 49ers 2022. 49ers 2012
Sam Darnold is not the back up, he started the whole season.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Vikings this year. 49ers 2022. 49ers 2012
Exactly my point. The Vikings had a rookie QB that got injured so Darnold has been the replacement. There's no way of knowing how good they woud have been if McCarthy had played but he likely would have had some problems like most 1st year QBs. In any case he wasn't an established startr.
The 2022 Niners replaced Garoppolo when he got injured with Purdy. JG wasn't a great QB and as it turns out Brock is better than he was. Once agian it wasn't like replacing Mahomes or Stafford.
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Vikings this year. 49ers 2022. 49ers 2012
Sam Darnold is not the back up, he started the whole season.
He is absolutely the backup. Will be more obvious when he's not a Viking next year.
the list goes on though
eagles with foles twice
49ers with young
Vikings with Keenum
titans with Tannehill
browns with Flacco last year
etc etc.
im not making a point. Just answering the call of "list teams that have been successful with backups"
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Vikings this year. 49ers 2022. 49ers 2012
Sam Darnold is not the back up, he started the whole season.
He is absolutely the backup. Will be more obvious when he's not a Viking next year.
the list goes on though
eagles with foles twice
49ers with young
Vikings with Keenum
titans with Tannehill
browns with Flacco last year
etc etc.
im not making a point. Just answering the call of "list teams that have been successful with backups"
Originally posted by Kolohe:Not only that, he was signed before the draft to be their QB
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Vikings this year. 49ers 2022. 49ers 2012
Sam Darnold is not the back up, he started the whole season.
He is absolutely the backup. Will be more obvious when he's not a Viking next year.
the list goes on though
eagles with foles twice
49ers with young
Vikings with Keenum
titans with Tannehill
browns with Flacco last year
etc etc.
im not making a point. Just answering the call of "list teams that have been successful with backups"
If a QB starts the season then starts every game of the season, he is not the back up.
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
He is absolutely the backup. Will be more obvious when he's not a Viking next year.
the list goes on though
eagles with foles twice
49ers with young
Vikings with Keenum
titans with Tannehill
browns with Flacco last year
etc etc.
im not making a point. Just answering the call of "list teams that have been successful with backups"
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Kolohe:Not only that, he was signed before the draft to be their QB
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Show me the list of good teams that have a winning record with a backup QB. Any team forced to go with their backup for more than a couple games is in trouble. The salary cap prevents teams from signing and keeping a decent backup. Some bad tems might not show much difference or maybe might be better since their starter probably isn't very good anyway.
Vikings this year. 49ers 2022. 49ers 2012
Sam Darnold is not the back up, he started the whole season.
He is absolutely the backup. Will be more obvious when he's not a Viking next year.
the list goes on though
eagles with foles twice
49ers with young
Vikings with Keenum
titans with Tannehill
browns with Flacco last year
etc etc.
im not making a point. Just answering the call of "list teams that have been successful with backups"
If a QB starts the season then starts every game of the season, he is not the back up.
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Kyle Shanahan is 9-29 without Jimmy or Brock. He is not Andy Reid. He can not succeed with mediocre QBs.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by FootballExpert49ers:
Kyle Shanahan is 9-29 without Jimmy or Brock. He is not Andy Reid. He can not succeed with mediocre QBs.
And what's Andy Reid record without Donovan McNabb and Patrick Mahomes?