10,000 Days Since Last Title

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I grew up watching the 80s dynasty. Nothing will ever compare.

I blame York and parage, and also the fans who are content with mediocrity.

Blame yourself for not understanding how special and unusual the Montana-Young era was. Then realize than very few fanbases got to see their team win as much as we did. It's not easy, even when you have a great team, there's always luck and pure chance involved. A lot that is out of control of anyone directly involved plays into winning it all. The best you can expect is to be in the handful of teams in the mix.

Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I grew up watching the 80s dynasty. Nothing will ever compare.

I blame York and parage, and also the fans who are content with mediocrity.

Blame yourself for not understanding how special and unusual the Montana-Young era was. Then realize than very few fanbases got to see their team win as much as we did. It's not easy, even when you have a great team, there's always luck and pure chance involved. A lot that is out of control of anyone directly involved plays into winning it all. The best you can expect is to be in the handful of teams in the mix.

Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

Lol you have no clue on the subject

how many daze now?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I grew up watching the 80s dynasty. Nothing will ever compare.

I blame York and parage, and also the fans who are content with mediocrity.

Blame yourself for not understanding how special and unusual the Montana-Young era was. Then realize than very few fanbases got to see their team win as much as we did. It's not easy, even when you have a great team, there's always luck and pure chance involved. A lot that is out of control of anyone directly involved plays into winning it all. The best you can expect is to be in the handful of teams in the mix.

Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

Lol you have no clue on the subject

Thank you for the input. Fascinating.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Yet another day and no title

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Yet another day and no title

maybe tomorrow

I too am of the '81 fan crew. I had just turned 12 so I was starting to understand the game a bit having cut me teeth on Stabler, Casper, Plunkett, Brach etc...Then a friend showed me the light and I became a Niner fan. Sure it was a bandwagon move at the time but there were a whole lot of us that did that. I was 12 for chisakes LOL. So glad I jumped on. Those 5 Super Bowls were so fun. I remember thinking after the Ravens Super Bowl loss that I didn't know what it was like to lose a Super Bowl. Totally foreign concept that happens to OTHER teams. Turns out it isn't as fun as winning it. Our time is near. Keep the faith.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

I can't blame the ownership for the past 10 years. This team made 5 NFCC games and zero titles. That's a lack of execution by the coaching staff.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

Yeah. York has made some mistakes since becoming the owning. ( Some big ones ). It's good to see him actually making amends for his wrong doings. I agree that good ownerships typically tend to win Championships too when It's all said and done. As for Marathe, he could be the one holding us back to some extent with his conservative approach to spendings.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

I am disputing your stance that no championship = bad ownership. Correct me if I read your post incorrectly (from the post I quoted above, I bolded the statement). If understand your view correctly, then if Kap makes the throw, and/or if Jimmy completes a couple passes to sustain drives to preserve the lead, then suddenly the 49ers have good ownership? That seems simplistic.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

Yeah. York has made some mistakes since becoming the owning. ( Some big ones ). It's good to see him actually making amends for his wrong doings. I agree that good ownerships typically tend to win Championships too when It's all said and done. As for Marathe, he could be the one holding us back to some extent with his conservative approach to spendings.

What excatly does it tell you? I see a competitive organization that makes mostly good decisions when it comes to the cap and player personnel. Would you rather be the Browns, Lions, Commanders, etc?