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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

Yeah. York has made some mistakes since becoming the owning. ( Some big ones ). It's good to see him actually making amends for his wrong doings. I agree that good ownerships typically tend to win Championships too when It's all said and done. As for Marathe, he could be the one holding us back to some extent with his conservative approach to spendings.

What excatly does it tell you? I see a competitive organization that makes mostly good decisions when it comes to the cap and player personnel. Would you rather be the Browns, Lions, Commanders, etc?

Definitely not . We've been good for the most part. That doesn't mean York should be worshipped. He's still the same spoilt kid who fired Harbaugh, putting this team at rock bottom for the next few years of so. Like I Said, its good he's made an amends for his mistakes, but I'm not willing to forgive and trust him. Just yet.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

Yeah. York has made some mistakes since becoming the owning. ( Some big ones ). It's good to see him actually making amends for his wrong doings. I agree that good ownerships typically tend to win Championships too when It's all said and done. As for Marathe, he could be the one holding us back to some extent with his conservative approach to spendings.

What excatly does it tell you? I see a competitive organization that makes mostly good decisions when it comes to the cap and player personnel. Would you rather be the Browns, Lions, Commanders, etc?

Good ownership puts the team in a position to compete. Whether the franchise achieves the pinnacle of success (SB title) can come down to a completion here, a playcall there, a blown coverage during a clutch moment, etc. Things that are out of ownership's hands. imo
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

Yeah. York has made some mistakes since becoming the owning. ( Some big ones ). It's good to see him actually making amends for his wrong doings. I agree that good ownerships typically tend to win Championships too when It's all said and done. As for Marathe, he could be the one holding us back to some extent with his conservative approach to spendings.

What excatly does it tell you? I see a competitive organization that makes mostly good decisions when it comes to the cap and player personnel. Would you rather be the Browns, Lions, Commanders, etc?

Definitely not . We've been good for the most part. That doesn't mean York should be worshipped. He's still the same spoilt kid who fired Harbaugh, putting this team at rock bottom for the next few years of so. Like I Said, its good he's made an amends for his mistakes, but I'm not willing to forgive and trust him. Just yet.

Who was worshipping York?

Jed certainly should have gotten rid of Baalke first. I was frustrasted that we let Harbaugh go also. Harbaugh was not innocent in any of the stuff that went down though.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Jun 20, 2022 at 11:24 AM ]
10,000 days has been more tolerable because we got to witness a dynasty from our other 2 favorite teams....Warriors and Giants.
Good owners spray on their hair straight from a can.. it's the mark of greatness..





he may have missed a few spots... which is a sign he was too busy owning that day. Working for us.. the fans.
Watching the Warriors victory celebration this morning makes we want another 49ers championship even more.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

Yeah. York has made some mistakes since becoming the owning. ( Some big ones ). It's good to see him actually making amends for his wrong doings. I agree that good ownerships typically tend to win Championships too when It's all said and done. As for Marathe, he could be the one holding us back to some extent with his conservative approach to spendings.

What excatly does it tell you? I see a competitive organization that makes mostly good decisions when it comes to the cap and player personnel. Would you rather be the Browns, Lions, Commanders, etc?

Definitely not . We've been good for the most part. That doesn't mean York should be worshipped. He's still the same spoilt kid who fired Harbaugh, putting this team at rock bottom for the next few years of so. Like I Said, its good he's made an amends for his mistakes, but I'm not willing to forgive and trust him. Just yet.

Who was worshipping York?

Jed certainly should have gotten rid of Baalke first. I was frustrasted that we let Harbaugh go also. Harbaugh was not innocent in any of the stuff that went down though.

Just a figure of speech I guess.

Yeah. The Harbaugh firing definitely set us back a few years. And if it wasn't for Kyle having history with the 9ers to some extent, I doubt he'd even accept the job to begin with.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Good owners spray on their hair straight from a can.. it's the mark of greatness..





he may have missed a few spots... which is a sign he was too busy owning that day. Working for us.. the fans.

Lol
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Not buying it. Great organizations with great ownership stay great. Bad organizations with bad ownership stay bad. If it were based on luck and pure chance, the Detroit lions would have at some point reached the superbowl on odds alone. Its not luck amd pure chance the niners were a dynasty for 15 years. It's not a coincidence the warriors turned great once ownership changed. It was almost immediate.

The lack of championships over the last 27 years start with ownership and their hiding behind Mr moneyball Marathe

So because Kap couldn't complete a pass to Crabtree, the 49ers have bad ownership.
Because EMoseley blew his coverage and Jimmy couldn't complete a couple more passes, the 49ers have bad ownership. What a fascinating way to look at things.

The Niners don't pinch pennies. They built a new stadium and pay their players when they can. It's not like they always have a lot of cap space. Jed has eaten contrsct money on several coaches in an effort to find a good ne. The cirrent Niners front office is among the better ones in the league.

You can't compare them to the Eddie D-Carmen Policy regime. They operated without a cap or free agency during most of their time. When the cap was initiated, Carmen kept pushing money downstream. When he left the team was in salary cap hell (his own words)

All of that doesn't matter because Chris Jones blocked a couple passes so that means Jed York is a bad owner.

Are you arguing with my position that York is a bad owner, or my position that good ownership equates to winning organizations? I will concede that york has done a much better job as of late. I really didn't like the way he handled the Harbaugh situation, hated the chip Kelly hire, and let's not talk about the tomsula hire. I like that he's been out of the spotlight and allowed his gm and coach to do their thing. But, he still has marathe, and that tells me a lot.

Yeah. York has made some mistakes since becoming the owning. ( Some big ones ). It's good to see him actually making amends for his wrong doings. I agree that good ownerships typically tend to win Championships too when It's all said and done. As for Marathe, he could be the one holding us back to some extent with his conservative approach to spendings.

What excatly does it tell you? I see a competitive organization that makes mostly good decisions when it comes to the cap and player personnel. Would you rather be the Browns, Lions, Commanders, etc?

Definitely not . We've been good for the most part. That doesn't mean York should be worshipped. He's still the same spoilt kid who fired Harbaugh, putting this team at rock bottom for the next few years of so. Like I Said, its good he's made an amends for his mistakes, but I'm not willing to forgive and trust him. Just yet.

Who was worshipping York?

Jed certainly should have gotten rid of Baalke first. I was frustrasted that we let Harbaugh go also. Harbaugh was not innocent in any of the stuff that went down though.

Just a figure of speech I guess.

Yeah. The Harbaugh firing definitely set us back a few years. And if it wasn't for Kyle having history with the 9ers to some extent, I doubt he'd even accept the job to begin with.

I was one of the ones in favor of hiring Mike as the HC with Kyle as OC who would eventually take over as HC. If I am being honest. I was also not one of the ones who were against hiring Adam Gase. So glad we didn't go that route.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Jun 20, 2022 at 11:43 AM ]
Get the warriors to speak. They know a thing or two about championship pedigree.

I have a special place in my heart for SF. Crime and other factors have certainly taken a toll on the city but that's still title town and still one of the greatest cities we have in America.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Watching the Warriors victory celebration this morning makes we want another 49ers championship even more.

City of Champions!
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Get the warriors to speak. They know a thing or two about championship pedigree.

I have a special place in my heart for SF. Crime and other factors have certainly taken a toll on the city but that's still title town and still one of the greatest cities we have in America.

The current Warriors remind me so much of the 80s 49ers. The ownerships that are dedicated to winning no matter what the cost. The development of a great core of players and then supplementing them with the right support guys. The ability to find guys that get overlooked by other teams but who fit your system. A quality organization from top to bottom.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
10,000 days has been more tolerable because we got to witness a dynasty from our other 2 favorite teams....Warriors and Giants.

Haha. True.

PS: To the OP, either you or someone in here (or it was found in the WZ), John Chapman noted this in his most recent podcast.
I'm gonna need a 49ers parade in the near future.

I'm so tired of seeing other fans enjoy this. I've been to a few parades living in Boston. Pats parade in 2001 cuz my gf at the time was a fan, Red Sox parade in 2004 cuz that was THE moment in Boston sports and Bruins back when they won.

But football is my real love and I want to see my team win it all as an adult. I was 12 when we won the last one. I enjoyed it of course but you enjoy it so much more when you go through years of not experiencing it. The Red Sox parade after they finally won in 2004 was so epic around here, all of the other parades paled in comparison. It's why the Cubs parade after they won after their drought was so big.

I can't f**king wait to see it happen.
Originally posted by genus49:
I'm gonna need a 49ers parade in the near future.

I'm so tired of seeing other fans enjoy this. I've been to a few parades living in Boston. Pats parade in 2001 cuz my gf at the time was a fan, Red Sox parade in 2004 cuz that was THE moment in Boston sports and Bruins back when they won.

But football is my real love and I want to see my team win it all as an adult. I was 12 when we won the last one. I enjoyed it of course but you enjoy it so much more when you go through years of not experiencing it. The Red Sox parade after they finally won in 2004 was so epic around here, all of the other parades paled in comparison. It's why the Cubs parade after they won after their drought was so big.

I can't f**king wait to see it happen.

Preach, my friend!
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