SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at LAS VEGAS RAIDERS - 2022 Game 16

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
i just want to forget this game ever happened because it was so embarrassing to struggle against the Raiders

they took the chiefs to the wire.

they have a lot pf talent

All but one of their games this season have been 1 possession games.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
4 of 6 in the redzone this week. No surprise. We have been good in the redzone on the road all season.

If we're sticking closely to those percentages previously posted, then 4 of 6 is a disappointment that drop our road redzone percentage,...if that's some kind of "thing" to track. You said it was over 73%, remember? Well we were under 67% and fell short of that this week.

#CloserToTheMean

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
4 of 6 in the redzone this week. No surprise. We have been good in the redzone on the road all season.

If we're sticking closely to those percentages previously posted, then 4 of 6 is a disappointment that drop our road redzone percentage,...if that's some kind of "thing" to track. You said it was over 73%, remember? Well we were under 67% and fell short of that this week.

#CloserToTheMean

5/6 would have put us above the average and may have happened if we did not settle for that damned game winning FG in OT. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Its still way better than our 37.5% home redzone average.

Stidham had a good first game but I think he is going to struggle once some films on him.

he really didn't do anything crazy, we just were horrid on defense. I mean, give them guy credit - but i don't think he's the long term answer for the raiders.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
4 of 6 in the redzone this week. No surprise. We have been good in the redzone on the road all season.

If we're sticking closely to those percentages previously posted, then 4 of 6 is a disappointment that drop our road redzone percentage,...if that's some kind of "thing" to track. You said it was over 73%, remember? Well we were under 67% and fell short of that this week.

#CloserToTheMean

5/6 would have put us above the average and may have happened if we did not settle for that damned game winning FG in OT. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Its still way better than our 37.5% home redzone average.

Just responding, that's all. Every game has if ifs and buts,...that's football. We cant hold so tightly to percentages pointing to scenarios,...then get ifs involved only when they point towards a diff direction. Per you, this week's game out of town dropped our "road RZ" percentage.

And btw are you still counting that Mexico City game as a road game? It's listed as one, so you probably wanna recalculate.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
4 of 6 in the redzone this week. No surprise. We have been good in the redzone on the road all season.

If we're sticking closely to those percentages previously posted, then 4 of 6 is a disappointment that drop our road redzone percentage,...if that's some kind of "thing" to track. You said it was over 73%, remember? Well we were under 67% and fell short of that this week.

#CloserToTheMean

5/6 would have put us above the average and may have happened if we did not settle for that damned game winning FG in OT. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Its still way better than our 37.5% home redzone average.

Just responding, that's all.

And btw are you still counting that Mexico City game as a road game? It's listed as one, so you probably wanna recalculate.

Do you mean the road ARI game in Mexico where we were 2 for 2 in the redzone? Yes. That was calculated in.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do you mean the road ARI game in Mexico where we were 2 for 2 in the redzone? Yes. That was calculated in.

Yea so that points to even more flaws. If there were a home team, it was us, lol.

It by default is going to show up in the #s due to being "listed" as an away game,...but it's pretty clear that we didn't play AZ in their house. Null and void.

Just another example of why you don't want to base conclusions solely on #s.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Do you mean the road ARI game in Mexico where we were 2 for 2 in the redzone? Yes. That was calculated in.

Yea so that points to even more flaws. If there were a home team, it was us, lol.

It by default is going to show up in the #s due to being "listed" as an away game,...but it's pretty clear that we didn't play AZ in their house. Null and void.

GTFOH. You just cannot stand that you lost this debate and now you are looking for any dumb loophole you can find to try to trip me up. It may not have been a home game for Arizona but it was certainly a road game for the 49ers.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by picklejuice:
i just want to forget this game ever happened because it was so embarrassing to struggle against the Raiders

they took the chiefs to the wire.

they have a lot pf talent

All but one of their games this season have been 1 possession games.

Makes sense. I don't follow them. I guess they are one those good teams like the Chargers and Saints that had a bad record when we faced them.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You just cannot stand that you lost this debate and now you are looking for any dumb loophole you can find to try to trip me up. It may not have been a home game for Arizona but it was certainly a road game for the 49ers.

Lost what debate? You never presented an argument or rationale, so there is no debate whatsoever. Just pointed out a few things you might wanna check on when using #s.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You just cannot stand that you lost this debate and now you are looking for any dumb loophole you can find to try to trip me up. It may not have been a home game for Arizona but it was certainly a road game for the 49ers.

Lost what debate? You never presented an argument or rationale, so there is no debate whatsoever. Just pointed out a few things you might wanna check on when using #s.

If there is no debate than why do you keep trying to find new points to argue? By the way, your arguments are just as weak as 49att's.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If there is no debate than why do you keep trying to find new points to argue? By the way, your arguments are just as weak as 49att's.

Just pointing things out,...no need to be offended. I can easily keep going, though, btw. That's just how flawed of a "conclusion" it could've been to suggest away RZ tries are better than home tries in any tangible way.

e.g.,...4 RZ possessions can average a start on the 6 yd line 1 week and,...then 4 more can average starting @ the 18 yard line the next week, yet they are regarded as the same in these percentages. Completely different levels in terms of your chances of scoring a TD, but calculated in those percentages all the same.

To differentiate....FT% in basketball has alot more attempts that are all virtually equal, for example, so a home vs. away % with that would normally be totally different w/ alot less moving parts. I wouldnt try to diff. away being more productive than home in the RZ like it's really "a thing",...because it surely isin't. JMO. #SoManyLevels

Why have replay if you can't use your brain and common sense? On no planet did Davante Adam's catch that ball on the drive to tie the game. Both arms are on the side of the ball and the ball is laying on the ground. Does he have a 3rd arm under the ball? That ball was 100% laying on the ground.

It's clear that the Niners took the Raiders lightly. Glad we got the win though

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
It's clear that the Niners took the Raiders lightly. Glad we got the win though

Yup, our defense was completely caught off guard and got slapped around for it. I hope they're pissed off about this. Not how you want to enter the post season… hopefully we get back on track next week.

then after the bye, we will be good 😏