What do we do now at QB?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
To me, one year of Brady really comes down to price. $15M vs. $30M could be the difference in our window slamming shut way earlier. I mean we're set to pay CMC $12M next season. $15M extra is a whole CMC and change!

Brady is not experiencing a shortage of money. Ask him to take a discount. Otherwise roll with Lance. This is his last chance to be on his childhood team. And if not, hello to last year's plan of Lance learning on the job.

He lost a bundle in the FTX scam, and is being sued for it on top of that. Not to mention losing his supermodel wife's income.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
What do we do now?

1) Pray that Trey Lance is good
2) Pray that Brock Purdy comes back as good as he was before he got hurt.

/thread

Only 21 pages in, but we finally got a correct answer.

Lots of prayers when you have aging veterans long in the tooth? Maybe, maybe not. A week ago I would have said no way but they may need to bring in a vet to not waste this teams massive strengths for 2023. I'm so torn lol

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
We have two injury prone quarterbacks. Its time to stop messing around. Get a guy like Brady that can last 17 games and the playoffs. The league is literally not allowed to touch him and it will help our horrible pass protection issues

Kind of early to call either of them "injury prone".

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
What do we do now?

1) Pray that Trey Lance is good
2) Pray that Brock Purdy comes back as good as he was before he got hurt.

/thread

Only 21 pages in, but we finally got a correct answer.

Lots of prayers when you have aging veterans long in the tooth? Maybe, maybe not. A week ago I would have said no way but they may need to bring in a vet to not waste this teams massive strengths for 2023. I'm so torn lol

LMFAO. Ok, I'll capitulate. Who are our aging veterans that are long in the tooth? Trent Williams and…………?

Idk what it is… but in October I had a lingering, gradually-increasing gut feeling for about 1-2 weeks that we were going to trade for McCaffrey, and then we did.

I'm having that same feeling for Brady. Again, not sure what it is. But something about this feels more likely than ever. Guess we will see in March.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Idk what it is… but in October I had a lingering, gradually-increasing gut feeling for about 1-2 weeks that we were going to trade for McCaffrey, and then we did.

I'm having that same feeling for Brady. Again, not sure what it is. But something about this feels more likely than ever. Guess we will see in March.

They're not going to pay him $30M, it has to be a one year home discount.

I'd say no to Brady...he didn't look that good this season...only a few spurts that looked like he still had "it". I'd keep Lance and give him the 1st team reps at least until Purdy's GTG. We don't know how long he'll be out...could be 6 mo., could be a year. Nobody really knows at this point. I'd also say sign another decent QB to insure there are 3 guys who can run the offense effectively. Keeping Lance not only gives him a real shot at leading the team, but without spending big bucks. I wouldn't rule out re-signing Jimmy, but it's unknown what kind of market he'll have as a starter somewhere else. Niners have to rework the OL at C and RT, as a minimum. Hoping they groom Zakelj as the new C...he has the size, strength and toughness I'm not sure Brendel has. Willing to give Burford another year to prove he can get it done at RG. By all means, they have to let McGlinchey walk. There are some guys already on the roster who might be able to earn the RT position, namely McKivitz & Jaylen Moore. Between those two I'd give the edge to McKivitz due to size, strength and attitude. BL is they need to upgrade that position with someone who can actually protect the QB. They should also draft at least one OT, if not two. Beyond McGlinchey, Trent Williams isn't getting any younger. He's still playing at a very high level...but, for how much longer. Another need is to upgrade the TE position...after Kittle, there's not much. Woerner's a good blocker, but so far not much of a receiver. BL is whoever the starting QB is needs better protection against the elite teams.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
What do we do now?

1) Pray that Trey Lance is good
2) Pray that Brock Purdy comes back as good as he was before he got hurt.

/thread

Only 21 pages in, but we finally got a correct answer.

Lots of prayers when you have aging veterans long in the tooth? Maybe, maybe not. A week ago I would have said no way but they may need to bring in a vet to not waste this teams massive strengths for 2023. I'm so torn lol

LMFAO. Ok, I'll capitulate. Who are our aging veterans that are long in the tooth? Trent Williams and…………?

Yah man if they can't win one for Trent that sucks. Plus injuries happen, trades happen. Time to win is now.

Maybe I'm selfish. I want to see them win a chip because the team is built to win immediately. If Trey Is the one to do it and Shanny believes that, so be it.

I don't think he does. Shanny showed more faith in Brock who had so little preparation, off-season, etc than he ever showed in Trey. He had a muzzle on Trey who had a whole off season to prepare.

That muzzle came off soon as Trey broke his foot. Same game in fact. Whole offense changed. They were passing lol.

Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Yah man if they can't win one for Trent that sucks. Plus injuries happen, trades happen. Time to win is now.

Maybe I'm selfish. I want to see them win a chip because the team is built to win immediately. If Trey Is the one to do it and Shanny believes that, so be it.

I don't think he does. Shanny showed more faith in Brock who had so little preparation, off-season, etc than he ever showed in Trey. He had a muzzle on Trey who had a whole off season to prepare.

That muzzle came off soon as Trey broke his foot. Same game in fact. Whole offense changed. They were passing lol.

Sadly, that's Kyle's thing with running QBs. He did the exact same thing with RG3 and Cousins. Offense changed the second RG3 went out.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
To me, one year of Brady really comes down to price. $15M vs. $30M could be the difference in our window slamming shut way earlier. I mean we're set to pay CMC $12M next season. $15M extra is a whole CMC and change!

Brady is not experiencing a shortage of money. Ask him to take a discount. Otherwise roll with Lance. This is his last chance to be on his childhood team. And if not, hello to last year's plan of Lance learning on the job.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Trey Lance.

Shanahan and Lynch spent 3 frp on him. They believed he should be the starter in 2022. Why shouldn't he be the starter in 2023?

Because you shouldn't waste a year of a teams championship window on a raw project QB when a much better option is available.

That was true in 2022 too. So, again - what has changed? Kyle was more than fine with having Lance as the starter in 2022 after we lost in the Conf Finals earlier that year with Jimmy. They tried to move Jimmy - but weren't able to. Jimmy was on the roster - but they still went with Trey. So, what has changed?

Because they've seen what a much more capable QB can do in this offense going back to on the job training with Lance would be insanity and Lance was anointed the starter due to draft status and what they gave up for him they had no choice but to start him.

Incorrect. Trey was anointed the starter because Kyle wanted to add a power QB run threat to his scheme and Jimmy was going to cost more than 25 million. The very same reasons why Trey was drafted.

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
To me, one year of Brady really comes down to price. $15M vs. $30M could be the difference in our window slamming shut way earlier. I mean we're set to pay CMC $12M next season. $15M extra is a whole CMC and change!

Brady is not experiencing a shortage of money. Ask him to take a discount. Otherwise roll with Lance. This is his last chance to be on his childhood team. And if not, hello to last year's plan of Lance learning on the job.

He lost a bundle in the FTX scam, and is being sued for it on top of that. Not to mention losing his supermodel wife's income.

Yeah but he has a pending Scrouge McDuck contract with broadcasting which begins as soon as he retires.

Tom and Kyle would not get along. No moves at qb can be made until the surgery. Then we find out if Brock has a chance to play next year. Reminder: we are still in win now mode. We will prioritize staffing qb.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Tom and Kyle would not get along. No moves at qb can be made until the surgery. Then we find out if Brock has a chance to play next year. Reminder: we are still in win now mode. We will prioritize staffing qb.

I agree, brodie. Kyle and Tom would be toxic.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 4ML:
Jimmy isn't going to negotiate that kind of contract in 2023 and the experienced rookie is unlikely to be ready for start of the season after missing most of the offseason and based on late July/early August return - he will likely need few more weeks to get his arm where it needs to be.

Jimmy & Purdy got hurt as pocket passers. Jimmy was chased out of pocket and Purdy was in the middle of the pocket. They also got hurt doing things they were capable of executing.

Jimmy is 100 percent gone in my mind. There's zero chance he would be back here unless his market is completely dry.

I referenced Jimmy G's restructured deal because it was very clearly a Lance insurance policy. For injury, given they were going to be running him a ton... and for substandard play. It points to them not being fully comfortable rolling into a season where they should be a contender with an unproven commodity at QB.

And since that point Lance couldn't make it two games without suffering a serious injury and missing yet another season of football. The idea that nothing has changed since they made the decision to roll with Lance as the starter is ludicrous.

No - lol this is not what happened. They tried trading Jimmy all offseason long for an 2nd rd pick and couldn't get a deal done. So, they brought him back on a restructured deal bc they didn't want to lose him for nothing. There was never a plan to play Jimmy. He didn't participate in any team drills in the whole offseason. Lol stop revising history.

Now when he signs a deal this offseason with another team - they'll at least get a 3rd rd comp pick.

Nothing has changed in the sense 49ers were contenders at the start of last season and they'll be contenders at the start of 2023 season. If they were willing to go with Lance last season then nothing should stop them from making the same decision this season since Purdy is injured and Jimmy is a FA and highly unlikely to return to the team.

If we are gonna say Lance couldn't make it 2 full games so we should give up on him then Purdy also couldn't make it thru half a season worth of games - and that isn't enough either.

Originally posted by All22:
Sadly, that's Kyle's thing with running QBs. He did the exact same thing with RG3 and Cousins. Offense changed the second RG3 went out.

Are you sure bc with RG3 - he made the playoffs and with Cousins he won 1 out of 4 games with under 60% completion rate.

RG3 won OROY and ProBowl with Kyle as OC and and was hurt in the playoff game in his rookie year. He was never the same after tearing his ACL in the playoff game that season.