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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erGlory:
Facts also in 2015 Matt Ryan missed zero games. Whoever made this list seems to be all over the place with it. It also doesn't say if this is counting just the starter or backups as well and if this caused any missed games. If we are including minor injuries…EVERY QB In the league has a "unique injury" practically every other week.

Yeah, I don't understand that list either hence the LOL...

"...unique QB injuries"

2015 should be 0 for sure unless he showed up on an injury report but still was able to play? Is that what he was trying to capture? There was one year Jimmy was on I.R. twice in one season...how do you count that if it's the same injury?

Either way, looks like Kyle's just been very unlucky. LOL.
Here comes NC back pedaling on the tweet LOL
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We're just accepting every tweet as a fact now? This isn't a good way to drive discussion.
Originally posted by thl408:
We're just accepting every tweet as a fact now? This isn't a good way to drive discussion.

Looks like we need some independent research in here.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
We all talk about the amount of injuries our QB's suffer under Kyle's regime but does anybody talk about how amazing it is that this team has gotten to 3 NFC championship games and 1 SB in 3 of the last 4 years despite all the injuries at the most important position. If Chiefs ever lose Mahomes they are not making it to the AFC championship. The same goes for Bills if they lose Allen, Bengals if they lose Burrow. etc etc. This team is special in that regard. Every other elite team are done if they lose their starting QB.

It's amazing to think that 49ers made to SB and 2 NFC Championship game with an average QB. It's always the team carrying the load. Now with Purdy, he might be the one carrying the 49ers to the promise land,
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erGlory:
Facts also in 2015 Matt Ryan missed zero games. Whoever made this list seems to be all over the place with it. It also doesn't say if this is counting just the starter or backups as well and if this caused any missed games. If we are including minor injuries…EVERY QB In the league has a "unique injury" practically every other week.

Yeah, I don't understand that list either hence the LOL...

"...unique QB injuries"

2015 should be 0 for sure unless he showed up on an injury report but still was able to play? Is that what he was trying to capture? There was one year Jimmy was on I.R. twice in one season...how do you count that if it's the same injury?

Either way, looks like Kyle's just been very unlucky. LOL.
Here comes NC back pedaling on the tweet LOL

Kyle sure has a lot of bad luck. LOL
Originally posted by Miranda:
It's amazing to think that 49ers made to SB and 2 NFC Championship game with an average QB. It's always the team carrying the load. Now with Purdy, he might be the one carrying the 49ers to the promise land,

That's definitely the hope!
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
We're just accepting every tweet as a fact now? This isn't a good way to drive discussion.

Looks like we need some independent research in here.

Seriously NC. I would trust any of us here over a random Twitter account.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
We're just accepting every tweet as a fact now? This isn't a good way to drive discussion.

Looks like we need some independent research in here.

Seriously NC. I would trust any of us here over a random Twitter account.

LMAO. We've had some bad ones over the years. Look at that dude that confirmed Brock's Tommy John surgery...question everything!
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
We're just accepting every tweet as a fact now? This isn't a good way to drive discussion.

Looks like we need some independent research in here.

Seriously NC. I would trust any of us here over a random Twitter account.

LMAO. We've had some bad ones over the years. Look at that dude that confirmed Brock's Tommy John surgery...question everything!

Exactly. I've been showing my kids very well produced YouTube videos of bs topics as examples of how much misinformation is out there.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
We're just accepting every tweet as a fact now? This isn't a good way to drive discussion.

Looks like we need some independent research in here.

Seriously NC. I would trust any of us here over a random Twitter account.

LMAO. We've had some bad ones over the years. Look at that dude that confirmed Brock's Tommy John surgery...question everything!

Exactly. I've been showing my kids very well produced YouTube videos of bs topics as examples of how much misinformation is out there.

Great life examples. It's very very hard to tease out sometimes esp. when you're rolling through many topics quickly like we do here on a daily basis.
Originally posted by thl408:
Exactly. I've been showing my kids very well produced YouTube videos of bs topics as examples of how much misinformation is out there.

Poor Dave Lombardi
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/166840-shanahan-doesnt-jimmy-garoppolo-returning-looking-veteran-starting/

This, is NOT encouraging!



Hummmm, I wonder what the vets on the team think of this

It's all coach-talk until the final results of Purdy's surgery.

I agree, nothing matters until we know the results of recovery and timetable on a Purdy return. 3 months until he starts a throwing program and 6 months to be a full go is an encouraging timeline. He would only miss OTAs and minicamp. He would be able to attend and take in the information, however. Despite his injury he will still workout and improve his overall fitness. He's QB #1 if this holds true. Trey Lance, as much as I like him and think he hasn't had a fair shot, would be QB #2, IMO.

If we have a healthy Purdy/Lance going into TC I don't think we need a "veteran" in the room. Most of the veteran QBs available aren't any good. Rather take a flier on another young guy with mid-late round picks.
Originally posted by Leathaface:

I agree, nothing matters until we know the results of recovery and timetable on a Purdy return. 3 months until he starts a throwing program and 6 months to be a full go is an encouraging timeline. He would only miss OTAs and minicamp. He would be able to attend and take in the information, however. Despite his injury he will still workout and improve his overall fitness. He's QB #1 if this holds true. Trey Lance, as much as I like him and think he hasn't had a fair shot, would be QB #2, IMO.

If we have a healthy Purdy/Lance going into TC I don't think we need a "veteran" in the room. Most of the veteran QBs available aren't any good. Rather take a flier on another young guy with mid-late round picks.

I'm not sure drafting yet another rookie is the answer in this case. IMHO, we do need a veteran in the room, but a competent veteran. Not another Josh Johnson, but a veteran who can actually play when called upon.

But I don't think Shanny's words are coach-talk. I think he's serious. And I can't imagine the Trent Williams, the George Kittles, the Deebo Samuel's, et al, of the locker room were too happy to hear this. Kyle has to at least consider bringing in a veteran. Nobody, including Shanny & Co., knows how Brock's surgery will go, much less the rehab or how he heals. 3 months until he starts a throwing program, and a full go after 6 months? I think it's way too soon the be that optimistic. Yeah, he can begin improving his overall fitness, but will he be ready to get into NFL shape? After all, I think it's safe to say that Brock needs to put on a few pounds given his slight frame. That means lifting weights. When will he be ready for a true NFL conditioning program after the surgery? I doubt very seriously Brock will be ready to take part in any pre-season games. Do you honestly think Brock can miss an entire offseason, OTA's, minicamp, and preseason games, and be fully ready for full QB 1 duties by week 1? Doubtful! That means, as it stands, Lance is QB 1, who himself is coming off major injury, without a backup. Who honestly thinks Josh will be back after he's cleared? And, for all that it's worth, Shanny was pretty clear about Jimmy G. not returning.

To me, bringing in a competent veteran QB will, if nothing else, signal to the locker room that all is being done to protect the SB window this team is in. Going into the offseason, OTA's, and minicamp with only one still unproven QB sends a bad signal to the locker room, IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I think Shanny should be coach of the year with the job he's done. But to not even consider bringing in a competent veteran QB given this circumstance is just not the best move.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by thl408:
Exactly. I've been showing my kids very well produced YouTube videos of bs topics as examples of how much misinformation is out there.

Poor Dave Lombardi

Ha. Did DL send out some misinformation lately? I missed it if so.
As for what should the 49ers do, I don't see many options. They hope Trey can develop enough to be a steady starter and hope Purdy comes back sometime during the year. In the meantime, they sign some veteran that's floating around and/or draft another QB with one of their 3rd round picks.

I don't see them going out and trying to draft or trade for any of the better QBs in the league. They can't afford it and they need to find out if Trey can play. If he can't do the job, then they have to draft again sometime in the near future. Brock looked good this year but can he continue that every year? Will his size make him injury prone? Will his skill limitations eventually catch up to him?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49erGlory:
Facts also in 2015 Matt Ryan missed zero games. Whoever made this list seems to be all over the place with it. It also doesn't say if this is counting just the starter or backups as well and if this caused any missed games. If we are including minor injuries…EVERY QB In the league has a "unique injury" practically every other week.

Yeah, I don't understand that list either hence the LOL...

"...unique QB injuries"

2015 should be 0 for sure unless he showed up on an injury report but still was able to play? Is that what he was trying to capture? There was one year Jimmy was on I.R. twice in one season...how do you count that if it's the same injury?

Either way, looks like Kyle's just been very unlucky. LOL.
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