What is the minimum that you would accept to trade Trey Lance?

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Love the ham sandwich option. Not trading him.

1. He has 2 years left on his rookie contract + option.

2. He has potential that still needs to be explored.

3. Lance has not played enough to form an opinion.

4. Purdy is coming off a major injury.

5. As much as I love Purdy and how he played. I need to see more before I would give him the keys. He has not played even a full season at this point.

6. not clear when Purdy will be ready.

7. If you are trying to recover draft picks you are wasting your time. He doesnt have any significant value until he proves it. He is more valuable to the 49ers than what we would get in draft picks.

8. Good QBs dont grow on trees and good ones are tough to find. We should make sure before we let TL walk.

9. Competition between TL and Purdy should help to provide quality data to handover the keys.

If TL cannot show he can be a Top QB in the NFL by his 4th year, I will take the ham sandwich with pickle.

This is the most reasonable position to take. You ensure you have the best shot at a franchise QB, and don't go reducing that opportunity for a couple mid round picks that may amount to nothing. Trey is still an unknown with insane potential and a great head on his shoulders. You see that through as much as you can while also seeing through what Brock is more than 8 games. I think Brock may be that guy, but Trey has an outside shot at blowing off our socks and living up to his potential should he need to play a few games this season. And if Brock has a setback in his health or play, you are left scratching your ass, trying to find another guy with potential to be a FQB.

At this point? 49ers would be lucky to receive a 2nd a conditional 4th/5th.

Originally posted by English:
Until I see him given a chance I wouldn't trade him.

I don't agree with this. If you trust Kyle and lynch, and they've had a ton more exposure to Trey then we have, and they don't think he's the guy, that should be their decision. Case in point- Jim druckenmiller and Giovanni carmazzi. Both never had much game time, but the coaches knew.

No, less than a 2nd. I would take a 2nd, 3rd and maybe an additional pick. Too, much?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by English:
Until I see him given a chance I wouldn't trade him.

If Kyle felt like he just needs a chance and he will flourish then it wouldn't be like this. He would be very eager to get him that chance. It wouldn't be a "big challenge".

It's like if my son needed to pass a multiplication test to get to 2nd grade, but he's never even given the chance to take the test. I'd be over there going crazy, "Just Give Him A Chance!!!!!"

Meanwhile in class he can't even add 2 + 2 together. I think that's where Trey is at. He's so far off there isn't a point in giving him that chance after what Brock did.

I think it's like this. They know BP is good enough right now to win games,get into the playoffs and possibly into and win the SB; however, TL may be just as good or better and be able to deliver the same results as BP, but TL needs reps and games to develop.

So their dilemma is do you go with BP, who you are confident can stack wins to get you into the post season, or do you give TL games to develop and take some L's along the way for Trey's learning curve and jeopardize getting into the post season because you switched to BP 1 game too late,or BP has some bad games and performs no better than Trey & you miss the playoffs.

You hate to trade Trey and in 3 years he turns out to be a top 3 QB in the league for 10 years+ but you could not give him games while in SF to learn & reach his potential.

Of course the opposite of that is Trey never develops into the superstar QB you want.

I like both guys and for me BP does give them the best chance to win week 1,2,3,4..... I am excited for his future potential but I'd also like to see what Trey could do however, only 1 QB can play at a time.

They'd be lucky to get anything more than a 2nd for him at this point.

It's much better to keep hold of hiim for now In hope that he reaches his full potential.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by English:
Until I see him given a chance I wouldn't trade him.

I don't agree with this. If you trust Kyle and lynch, and they've had a ton more exposure to Trey then we have, and they don't think he's the guy, that should be their decision. Case in point- Jim druckenmiller and Giovanni carmazzi. Both never had much game time, but the coaches knew.

Yes agreed, but this isn't a discussion regarding second guessing the team. These are our opinions.

I need some Trey trade rumor news.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Love the ham sandwich option. Not trading him.

1. He has 2 years left on his rookie contract + option.

2. He has potential that still needs to be explored.

3. Lance has not played enough to form an opinion.

4. Purdy is coming off a major injury.

5. As much as I love Purdy and how he played. I need to see more before I would give him the keys. He has not played even a full season at this point.

6. not clear when Purdy will be ready.

7. If you are trying to recover draft picks you are wasting your time. He doesnt have any significant value until he proves it. He is more valuable to the 49ers than what we would get in draft picks.

8. Good QBs dont grow on trees and good ones are tough to find. We should make sure before we let TL walk.

9. Competition between TL and Purdy should help to provide quality data to handover the keys.

If TL cannot show he can be a Top QB in the NFL by his 4th year, I will take the ham sandwich with pickle.

If they've already moved onto Purdy as the guy how does that potential ever get explored?

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Love the ham sandwich option. Not trading him.

1. He has 2 years left on his rookie contract + option.

2. He has potential that still needs to be explored.

3. Lance has not played enough to form an opinion.

4. Purdy is coming off a major injury.

5. As much as I love Purdy and how he played. I need to see more before I would give him the keys. He has not played even a full season at this point.

6. not clear when Purdy will be ready.

7. If you are trying to recover draft picks you are wasting your time. He doesnt have any significant value until he proves it. He is more valuable to the 49ers than what we would get in draft picks.

8. Good QBs dont grow on trees and good ones are tough to find. We should make sure before we let TL walk.

9. Competition between TL and Purdy should help to provide quality data to handover the keys.

If TL cannot show he can be a Top QB in the NFL by his 4th year, I will take the ham sandwich with pickle.

If they've already moved onto Purdy as the guy how does that potential ever get explored?

How did Purdy's potential get explored last year? We've played at least 2 QBs in 5/6 seasons of KS's tenure and at least 3 in 4/6, so it's more likely than not that all 3 QBs will start games this year.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by English:
Until I see him given a chance I wouldn't trade him.

I don't agree with this. If you trust Kyle and lynch, and they've had a ton more exposure to Trey then we have, and they don't think he's the guy, that should be their decision. Case in point- Jim druckenmiller and Giovanni carmazzi. Both never had much game time, but the coaches knew.

Yes agreed, but this isn't a discussion regarding second guessing the team. This are our opinions.

Ya we have no idea what Kyle and John actually think.

It doesn't matter what I think but I can't imagine the Niners trading him for less than a 1st round or very early 2nd round plus a 4th. Something along those lines. There would have to be some player that they really liked and would be able to use that pick on or it wouldn't make sense to trade him. It's not like he's going to be disruptive. They may need him at some time during the year just like they needed JG last year and then Purdy.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Love the ham sandwich option. Not trading him.

1. He has 2 years left on his rookie contract + option.

2. He has potential that still needs to be explored.

3. Lance has not played enough to form an opinion.

4. Purdy is coming off a major injury.

5. As much as I love Purdy and how he played. I need to see more before I would give him the keys. He has not played even a full season at this point.

6. not clear when Purdy will be ready.

7. If you are trying to recover draft picks you are wasting your time. He doesnt have any significant value until he proves it. He is more valuable to the 49ers than what we would get in draft picks.

8. Good QBs dont grow on trees and good ones are tough to find. We should make sure before we let TL walk.

9. Competition between TL and Purdy should help to provide quality data to handover the keys.

If TL cannot show he can be a Top QB in the NFL by his 4th year, I will take the ham sandwich with pickle.

If they've already moved onto Purdy as the guy how does that potential ever get explored?

Is it clear they have moved on?

TL will get all the OTAs and TC snaps and will probably at a minimum start week 1 - 4. I think this is the perfect environment to see if TL has what it takes.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It doesn't matter what I think but I can't imagine the Niners trading him for less than a 1st round or very early 2nd round plus a 4th. Something along those lines. There would have to be some player that they really liked and would be able to use that pick on or it wouldn't make sense to trade him. It's not like he's going to be disruptive. They may need him at some time during the year just like they needed JG last year and then Purdy.

I feel he is that 14-24 1st round minimum value.
If it is a mid 2nd or later he is more valuable on the roster. PUP Purdy to make sure he is 100%.

If he is traded i hope they go after a 4 year small school starter again, and a special runner QB.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
They'd be lucky to get anything more than a 2nd for him at this point.

It's much better to keep hold of hiim for now In hope that he reaches his full potential.

The only reason you trade him now is if they firmly believe that playing him would only further reduce his value...ala Zach Wilson.