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49ERS vs RAVENS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 16

  • Giedi
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Originally posted by thl408:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-shapeshifting-defense-may-be-even-better-than-their-offense-heres-what-makes-it-so-good/
Macdonald has also wildly varied his blitz rate from week to week depending on the opponent. The Ravens sent extra rushers on only 11.6% of Joe Burrow's dropbacks back in Week 2, per Tru Media, then ramped it up to 51% the next week against the Colts. And when the played the Browns the following week, they were back down to a 14% blitz rate.
The Ravens are able to change their coverage schemes and pass defense strategies so often because they have so many versatile players -- particularly in the secondary.
This type of versatility on both the back end and the front is enviable, and allows the Ravens to change the picture for opposing offenses. Disguises and late rotations are some of the best ways to confuse opposing quarterbacks, and the Ravens do a better job of that than almost any other team in the league.
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I don't think BAL will be blitz heavy versus Brock. My guess is they force him to dink and dunk down the field, hoping the 49ers offense slips up somewhere along the way. But with their versatility with their players and schemes, who knows.

Personally, I think CMC and Mason will be key in this game. 49ers have to force the Baltimore defense to behave and play base defense to help Purdy's pass defense reads. These exotic (positionless football type) defenses that the kind Belichick likes to run can be calmed down with a good strong run game. If there is a game, I want Feliciano to start over Burford, it would be this game.

As for the Dink and Dunk, Kyle is the master of playing Keep Away football. That Raven defensive strategy will play into Kyle's hands, and if our defense manages to get a +1 in the turnover differential, that's game.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-shapeshifting-defense-may-be-even-better-than-their-offense-heres-what-makes-it-so-good/
Macdonald has also wildly varied his blitz rate from week to week depending on the opponent. The Ravens sent extra rushers on only 11.6% of Joe Burrow's dropbacks back in Week 2, per Tru Media, then ramped it up to 51% the next week against the Colts. And when the played the Browns the following week, they were back down to a 14% blitz rate.
The Ravens are able to change their coverage schemes and pass defense strategies so often because they have so many versatile players -- particularly in the secondary.
This type of versatility on both the back end and the front is enviable, and allows the Ravens to change the picture for opposing offenses. Disguises and late rotations are some of the best ways to confuse opposing quarterbacks, and the Ravens do a better job of that than almost any other team in the league.
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I don't think BAL will be blitz heavy versus Brock. My guess is they force him to dink and dunk down the field, hoping the 49ers offense slips up somewhere along the way. But with their versatility with their players and schemes, who knows.

Personally, I think CMC and Mason will be key in this game. 49ers have to force the Baltimore defense to behave and play base defense to help Purdy's pass defense reads. These exotic (positionless football type) defenses that the kind Belichick likes to run can be calmed down with a good strong run game. If there is a game, I want Feliciano to start over Burford, it would be this game.

As for the Dink and Dunk, Kyle is the master of playing Keep Away football. That Raven defensive strategy will play into Kyle's hands, and if our defense manages to get a +1 in the turnover differential, that's game.

It's in our interest to score on long drawn out drives and contain Lamar (easier said than done).
Underdogs have won 7 straight on Monday night football….

Damn…. Are we favored?
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ravens-shapeshifting-defense-may-be-even-better-than-their-offense-heres-what-makes-it-so-good/
Macdonald has also wildly varied his blitz rate from week to week depending on the opponent. The Ravens sent extra rushers on only 11.6% of Joe Burrow's dropbacks back in Week 2, per Tru Media, then ramped it up to 51% the next week against the Colts. And when the played the Browns the following week, they were back down to a 14% blitz rate.
The Ravens are able to change their coverage schemes and pass defense strategies so often because they have so many versatile players -- particularly in the secondary.
This type of versatility on both the back end and the front is enviable, and allows the Ravens to change the picture for opposing offenses. Disguises and late rotations are some of the best ways to confuse opposing quarterbacks, and the Ravens do a better job of that than almost any other team in the league.
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I don't think BAL will be blitz heavy versus Brock. My guess is they force him to dink and dunk down the field, hoping the 49ers offense slips up somewhere along the way. But with their versatility with their players and schemes, who knows.

Personally, I think CMC and Mason will be key in this game. 49ers have to force the Baltimore defense to behave and play base defense to help Purdy's pass defense reads. These exotic (positionless football type) defenses that the kind Belichick likes to run can be calmed down with a good strong run game. If there is a game, I want Feliciano to start over Burford, it would be this game.

As for the Dink and Dunk, Kyle is the master of playing Keep Away football. That Raven defensive strategy will play into Kyle's hands, and if our defense manages to get a +1 in the turnover differential, that's game.

I would agree with that. I think try to take away the deep crossers to Aiyuk, and emphasize limiting the YAC. From there, I think it turns into the chess match between Shanahan and the Ravens' DC.

It's a great litmus test for Purdy. I want to see how he handles this defense. I have a feeling he'll do well.
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The first play that's cutup has two DTs drop into coverage, while rushing a slot CB and ILB (simulated pressure). I've watched a few videos on their defense and confusion is their main objective - both for the QB and the OL. I gotta think there's a way to make them pay for dropping DLs into coverage. One thing to notice is that when DET uses their condensed formations with the WRs close to the OTs (no WRs outside the numbers), it's hard for the offense to tell which are the four pass rushers since all the CBs, even the outside CBs, are in tight. 49ers use a lot of condensed formations.

TLDW: they disguise a lot and will use any defender to rush the QB, even outside CBs.
Originally posted by thl408:
The first play that's cutup has two DTs drop into coverage, while rushing a slot CB and ILB (simulated pressure). I've watched a few videos on their defense and confusion is their main objective - both for the QB and the OL. I gotta think there's a way to make them pay for dropping DLs into coverage. One thing to notice is that when DET uses their condensed formations with the WRs close to the OTs (no WRs outside the numbers), it's hard for the offense to tell which are the four pass rushers since all the CBs, even the outside CBs, are in tight. 49ers use a lot of condensed formations.

TLDW: they disguise a lot and will use any defender to rush the QB, even outside CBs.
Kyle needs to show us that everyone is a genius on defense until they play Kyle Shanahan.
Next bird up...

Originally posted by Mankster:
Next bird up...


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Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Underdogs have won 7 straight on Monday night football….

Damn…. Are we favored?

The 49ers aren't your average joe favorite, this favorite is number mutha f**kin ONE!!!
Not worried about the offense going up against the Ravens. They go against Niners D very day lol
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Underdogs have won 7 straight on Monday night football….

Damn…. Are we favored?

Niners>any weird juju number obession
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by thl408:
The first play that's cutup has two DTs drop into coverage, while rushing a slot CB and ILB (simulated pressure). I've watched a few videos on their defense and confusion is their main objective - both for the QB and the OL. I gotta think there's a way to make them pay for dropping DLs into coverage. One thing to notice is that when DET uses their condensed formations with the WRs close to the OTs (no WRs outside the numbers), it's hard for the offense to tell which are the four pass rushers since all the CBs, even the outside CBs, are in tight. 49ers use a lot of condensed formations.

TLDW: they disguise a lot and will use any defender to rush the QB, even outside CBs.

Just watched the Raven's vs Rams highlights. McVays offense didn't look like they had much trouble putting points on the Ravens defense. The Rams defense simply couldn't close on Lamar Jackson on a couple of 3rd and Longs. Our defense is much better than the Rams defense, for sure. Saw Keaton just torch the Rams defense with his speed. He'll be out in this game.

Special teams won it for the Ravens in overtime. McVay's offense put 31 points on that Raven's defense, and our offense is better.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Just watched the Raven's vs Rams highlights. McVays offense didn't look like they had much trouble putting points on the Ravens defense. The Rams defense simply couldn't close on Lamar Jackson on a couple of 3rd and Longs. Our defense is much better than the Rams defense, for sure. Saw Keaton just torch the Rams defense with his speed. He'll be out in this game.

Special teams won it for the Ravens in overtime. McVay's offense put 31 points on that Raven's defense, and our offense is better.

Baltimore is fraudulent and we will expose em
Originally posted by 9erson3:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
There's a lot of talk about how the Ravens' offensive running game will be a challenge for our defense.

But how does their defense stack up against our offense?

Their D is very good they have one of the best secondaries and without a doubt the best LB duo outside to us. Kyle Hamilton is killing it for them too

im predicting a dogfight similar to browns/niners

I'm predicting a blow-out (9ers) like all the others the past weeks..

i wouldnt be surprised if its a blowout

the ravens are the nfl's last hope of stopping the avengers
Ravens defense is very good. They are much better than the eagles or cowboys.

These 5 guys are top of the line:
Justin Madubuike (DT)
Roquan Smith (LB)
Patrick Queen (LB)
Kyle Hamilton (SS)
Marcus Williams (FS)

R Smith said: beating the 49ers is very simple, we shutdown the 49ers run game, make them one dimensional, and that's how you beat them.

49ers toughest opponent in the regular season coming up.
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