Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Not me. The Niners offense was the best in the nfl last year. The dolphins offense was artificially boosted by one game with over 700 yards, a total anomaly.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where does the NFL use yardage as the end all be all to rank an offense/defense?

There's 100s of sources that rank offenses/defenses in 100s of different ways…not just a static yards allowed stat. End of the day not allowing a team to score points matters much more than how many yards they have. You don't win a game because you have more yards. There's so much nuance that goes into yards per game (game flow/garbage time).

also the same people pointing out yards per game are the same folks that poo poo when Kyle puts up a ton of yards a game and they don't win that game. Hmmm.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where does the NFL use yardage as the end all be all to rank an offense/defense?

There's 100s of sources that rank offenses/defenses in 100s of different ways…not just a static yards allowed stat. End of the day not allowing a team to score points matters much more than how many yards they have. You don't win a game because you have more yards. There's so much nuance that goes into yards per game (game flow/garbage time).

also the same people pointing out yards per game are the same folks that poo poo when Kyle puts up a ton of yards a game and they don't win that game. Hmmm.

Both of the stats aren't a great measure of the defense because they can be affected by the other phases of the game (offense/special teams). The 49ers offense dominates the ball and had most teams down by double digits early in 2nd halves. That's going to have a direct impact on defensive statistics.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
If I had to toss a stat out where play calling was an issue it was on 3rd downs. SF was ranked 27th in the league there….Allowing 42.4% on 3rd down conversions 🤮

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where does the NFL use yardage as the end all be all to rank an offense/defense?

There's 100s of sources that rank offenses/defenses in 100s of different ways…not just a static yards allowed stat. End of the day not allowing a team to score points matters much more than how many yards they have. You don't win a game because you have more yards. There's so much nuance that goes into yards per game (game flow/garbage time).

also the same people pointing out yards per game are the same folks that poo poo when Kyle puts up a ton of yards a game and they don't win that game. Hmmm.

Both of the stats aren't a great measure of the defense because they can be affected by the other phases of the game (offense/special teams). The 49ers offense dominates the ball and had most teams down by double digits early in 2nd halves. That's going to have a direct impact on defensive statistics.

If I had to toss a stat out where play calling was an issue it was on 3rd downs. SF was ranked 27th in the league there….Allowing 42.4% on 3rd down conversions 🤮

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where does the NFL use yardage as the end all be all to rank an offense/defense?

There's 100s of sources that rank offenses/defenses in 100s of different ways…not just a static yards allowed stat. End of the day not allowing a team to score points matters much more than how many yards they have. You don't win a game because you have more yards. There's so much nuance that goes into yards per game (game flow/garbage time).

also the same people pointing out yards per game are the same folks that poo poo when Kyle puts up a ton of yards a game and they don't win that game. Hmmm.

Both of the stats aren't a great measure of the defense because they can be affected by the other phases of the game (offense/special teams). The 49ers offense dominates the ball and had most teams down by double digits early in 2nd halves. That's going to have a direct impact on defensive statistics.

If I had to toss a stat out where play calling was an issue it was on 3rd downs. SF was ranked 27th in the league there….Allowing 42.4% on 3rd down conversions 🤮

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
IMO, the Wilks experience was a wake up call.

KS hit 2 home runs w/Saleh and Demarco!

I feel they're going to take their time and weigh all their options.

An option not often mentioned is, if successful how long will their new DC stay. Will we have to go through the same process again in a year?

I don't even think the wilks hire was some epic failure. We had a legit defense as always. Lead the league in INTs and our secondary improved overall. 4th in points allowed.

By Kyle's standards (and fans) it wasn't good enough and a change had to be made….not just because of play on the field, but probably even more because of personality/philosophy.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
IMO, the Wilks experience was a wake up call.

KS hit 2 home runs w/Saleh and Demarco!

I feel they're going to take their time and weigh all their options.

An option not often mentioned is, if successful how long will their new DC stay. Will we have to go through the same process again in a year?

I don't even think the wilks hire was some epic failure. We had a legit defense as always. Lead the league in INTs and our secondary improved overall. 4th in points allowed.

By Kyle's standards (and fans) it wasn't good enough and a change had to be made….not just because of play on the field, but probably even more because of personality/philosophy.

In a baseball analogy, homeruns with Saleh and Ryans, a double with Wilks. We need another homerun to keep the spoiled fans happy.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where does the NFL use yardage as the end all be all to rank an offense/defense?

There's 100s of sources that rank offenses/defenses in 100s of different ways…not just a static yards allowed stat. End of the day not allowing a team to score points matters much more than how many yards they have. You don't win a game because you have more yards. There's so much nuance that goes into yards per game (game flow/garbage time).

also the same people pointing out yards per game are the same folks that poo poo when Kyle puts up a ton of yards a game and they don't win that game. Hmmm.

Both of the stats aren't a great measure of the defense because they can be affected by the other phases of the game (offense/special teams). The 49ers offense dominates the ball and had most teams down by double digits early in 2nd halves. That's going to have a direct impact on defensive statistics.

If I had to toss a stat out where play calling was an issue it was on 3rd downs. SF was ranked 27th in the league there….Allowing 42.4% on 3rd down conversions 🤮

Good point, we were awful on 3rd. And we gave up a lot of 3rd and long conversations.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:
In a baseball analogy, homeruns with Saleh and Ryans, a double with Wilks. We need another homerun to keep the spoiled fans happy.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
IMO, the Wilks experience was a wake up call.

KS hit 2 home runs w/Saleh and Demarco!

I feel they're going to take their time and weigh all their options.

An option not often mentioned is, if successful how long will their new DC stay. Will we have to go through the same process again in a year?

I don't even think the wilks hire was some epic failure. We had a legit defense as always. Lead the league in INTs and our secondary improved overall. 4th in points allowed.

By Kyle's standards (and fans) it wasn't good enough and a change had to be made….not just because of play on the field, but probably even more because of personality/philosophy.

In a baseball analogy, homeruns with Saleh and Ryans, a double with Wilks. We need another homerun to keep the spoiled fans happy.

Wilks was a 'hit by pitch' - reached base, but isn't a reliably consistent strategy.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Where does the NFL use yardage as the end all be all to rank an offense/defense?

There's 100s of sources that rank offenses/defenses in 100s of different ways…not just a static yards allowed stat. End of the day not allowing a team to score points matters much more than how many yards they have. You don't win a game because you have more yards. There's so much nuance that goes into yards per game (game flow/garbage time).

also the same people pointing out yards per game are the same folks that poo poo when Kyle puts up a ton of yards a game and they don't win that game. Hmmm.

Both of the stats aren't a great measure of the defense because they can be affected by the other phases of the game (offense/special teams). The 49ers offense dominates the ball and had most teams down by double digits early in 2nd halves. That's going to have a direct impact on defensive statistics.

If I had to toss a stat out where play calling was an issue it was on 3rd downs. SF was ranked 27th in the league there….Allowing 42.4% on 3rd down conversions 🤮

A ridiculous amount of them were on 3rd and long, too.

We could've forced a 3rd and 15 against the Chiefs on the final drive and I just would've been like "okay let's see how we blow this one! This next play will probably get its own Wikipedia page!"

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
3&15? I wouldn't of been comfortable with 4&15

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
3rd and 15 got us in SB 54 also. In reality not just stuff we are daydreaming

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
3&15? I wouldn't of been comfortable with 4&15

3rd and 15 got us in SB 54 also. In reality not just stuff we are daydreaming